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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #250 on: April 24, 2016, 07:41:14 AM »

answers to what?
Your unfounded allegations and ludicrous opinions of what you think happened.

Post some evidence of what you believe happened and we can discuss it.
The absence of evidence isn't actually evidence you know?






Some answers to who was behind the attacks & why.?
Yes we have the 'official' version.

Why then are so many pieces of information about the attacks No allowed to be in the public domain
- government orders -

The plane hitting the pentagon footage could easily be slowed to show it is a plane & not a rocket as some
are saying.

No weird & wonderful conspiracy theory from me,
Though I do like to question when I'm unsure - Perhaps Becuase of the many untruths/ fraud videos
Purporting to show the government were in on the act.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #251 on: April 24, 2016, 08:38:49 AM »
“Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat.”[1]

Said by someone who's originally from Poland but currently living in Amerigibmedats and thus relevant to this discussion.

[1] "The Grand Mahjong Board" (p. 211)
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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #252 on: April 24, 2016, 09:00:24 AM »
There is plenty of evidence, do your own research.  People like you will never consider the evidence anyway because your mind is already made up.

No, thats a typical truther response, you tell me what happened and I will view your evidence.

Now, try again.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #253 on: April 24, 2016, 09:01:11 AM »





Some answers to who was behind the attacks & why.?
Yes we have the 'official' version.

Why then are so many pieces of information about the attacks No allowed to be in the public domain
- government orders -

The plane hitting the pentagon footage could easily be slowed to show it is a plane & not a rocket as some
are saying.


No weird & wonderful conspiracy theory from me,
Though I do like to question when I'm unsure - Perhaps Becuase of the many untruths/ fraud videos
Purporting to show the government were in on the act.

so why dont you slow it down and show me then?

I cant understand why, when you have absolutely nothing to go on still dont believe the official story.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #254 on: April 24, 2016, 09:12:33 AM »
so the townsfolk can recognise a decoy plane?
Tell me, what does a decoy plane look like?
It could look like any plane moron - depending on the scenario. In the case of the Pentagon, it could have resembled the airliner that supposedly flew into the Pentagon.

"A decoy is usually a person, device, or event meant as a distraction, to conceal what an individual or a group might be looking for. Decoys have been used for centuries most notably in game hunting, but also in wartime and in the committing or resolving of crimes."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decoy

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #255 on: April 24, 2016, 09:20:59 AM »
As long you morons can't prove shit, it make no fucking difference what you said, because you are just another moron with blind faith. You are child, not able to use your so called "brains" to figure out even simplest things, like impossibility to explode tons of explosive without even smashing the windows  ;D 
Again the pot calling the kettle black. You see, it is you who have blind faith for some reason in the official story. You can't even trust your own eyes after you clearly see a video of the Pentagon and no plane is visible prior to impact.

I think it is becoming clear that you don't even have brains to help you think or figure things out. You are a moron of epic proportions. Or perhaps you are getting paid but I figure any money spent on you is a waste since you cannot really form coherent sentences or arguments. Your sponsors would be better off impaling you and investing in someone else less moronic.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #256 on: April 24, 2016, 09:23:31 AM »

I have to ask even I know already your answer: Why no one have seen this ""decoy plane" after it fly over the pentagon at the height of few hundred feet's? It fly over the fucking town, and no one has seen it? When passenger jet fly just over the rooftops it is impossible to miss, because it makes sound louder than 150 decibel. So it fly over the pentagon and vanish in the thin air? Typical foil hat claim with no sense at all.. ;D
There was a mystery (decoy) plane in the sky over the White House / Pentagon after the explosion.




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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #257 on: April 24, 2016, 09:31:37 AM »
No, thats a typical truther response, you tell me what happened and I will view your evidence.

No, it's a response from someone that doesn't have time to waste on a anti-conspiracy troll like you.

"Truther" is a derogatory term.  That proves you are a troll.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #258 on: April 24, 2016, 09:34:57 AM »
So you are just so fucking stupid that you don't see the difference? Well, that explains a lot of your behavior. You are full of shit and you prove it by yourself, because you don't have any evidence to prove any of those claims you present above.

1. WTC7 was imploded just like the other ones = no it didn't. Just prove that there were even one explosion, I dare you, you fucking moron.
2. Jet fuel does not melt steel. = no it doesn't and no one but foil hats has ever claimed it does. But what it does, it start to fire which heat up the steel, and when steel is hot, it loses it's structural strength. This is just a handbook physics, you can look it up anywhere. This reaction starts at the 200°C and at the 800°C 70% of the strength has gone. There was no melted steel, there is no evidence what so ever about the melted steel, it is all some foil hat nonsense.
3. What government would pay money to the Finnish blockhead for calling foil hats to morons what they are? How fucking stupid you have to be just to invent something so stupid to claim? You are 1" away from the permanent placement in some mental institute, because your stupidity is impossible without serious mental handicap.

And this is why I gave up arguing with this retarded inbreed in the 9/11 thread, who now claims to be from Finnland, lol.  So now we got a retarded moron from Europe arguing with us about the fallacies of our conspiracies, people who live in the USA and know the capabilities and distances that our government will go in order to sink the country in war . Ropo the retard read about the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the Vietnam war, and how many Americans died in that war base on a lie, same thing with the war in the middle east against Islamic terrorist. Back in the 60's, the USA was in war against the communist, today the country is at war against the radical Islamic terrorist, and Americans keep dying in foreign lands, and that's a fact.

One thing stands and it's what people need to understand and come to accept the reality and gravity of  9/11, if you have an IQ higher than a 12th grader, is that is impossible to explain with the laws of physics  how in the world could 15 floors of the top building of our highest skyscraper brought down in straight line to it's base the rest of the 95 floors in a stagering 12 f@#$ing seconds, pulverizing concrete and lunching steel been 600 yard to the sides, in which once the building started exploding, it did not stop until the very end, and all this started because of fuel and office fire.

Watch the video posted below and look where the plane hit, all the way up in the 90-95 floor, and the the tiny part part that the top 15 floors represented compare to the rest of the building,  and realize that you(ropo the retarded inbreed and anybody who agrees with him, for that matter) and the rest of the retarded people in the government who only care about their career and paycheck, who told us, millions of Americans, somehow due to the plane hitting the building that high and the fuel and office fire, it debilitated the top part of the building to the point that it started imploding straight down on it's own footprint, and some how grew in kinetic strength as it went down, that the official conspiracy theory report in it's self makes no f@#$ing sense what so ever. It has been literally impossible to replicate by anybody, including government agencies, universities,  engineers or architects for that matter, and  that the American  people has stop drinking the cool-aid of America Fuck yeah!!! propaganda bullshit.

Another thing about the explosions,  we see in the videos live testimony of people hearing explosion, from civilian and firefighters all the way through out the building. How the fuck could people hear explosions all way down in the main lobby if the fire was all the way in the top in the 95 floors. Have people not stop to think about it for a second? Can't you see the large distance from the bottom floors all the way up to the 95 floor? But hey this live testimony on the videos shown below is not proof enough, ropo the retard inbreed needs an official report from the goverment confirming this. What a looser.

The proof below, please ban this government shill(ropo):



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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #259 on: April 24, 2016, 09:38:52 AM »
It could look like any plane moron - depending on the scenario. In the case of the Pentagon, it could have resembled the airliner that supposedly flew into the Pentagon.

"A decoy is usually a person, device, or event meant as a distraction, to conceal what an individual or a group might be looking for. Decoys have been used for centuries most notably in game hunting, but also in wartime and in the committing or resolving of crimes."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decoy

That's exactly my point numbnuts, its claimed it was a decoy plane based on zero evidence again.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #260 on: April 24, 2016, 09:40:44 AM »
No, it's a response from someone that doesn't have time to waste on a anti-conspiracy troll like you.

"Truther" is a derogatory term.  That proves you are a troll.
Time to waste?
Just tell me what you think happened, it will take you 30 seconds at best, Im sure you have it written down somewhere, just post it here.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #261 on: April 24, 2016, 10:37:38 AM »
That's exactly my point numbnuts, its claimed it was a decoy plane based on zero evidence again.

Zero evidence? There is plenty of evidence that there was a plane that flew over the Pentagon. There is zero evidence that a plane hit the Pentagon. Their own video surveillance proves this.

1. Witnesses saw a plane fly over them North of the Citgo gas station.
2. Poles were downed South of the Citgo gas station. How is this possible? Can this plane be in two locations at the same time?
3. A Pentagon impact video was released and an airliner is not visible in the video.
4. The lawn was not disturbed in the surrounding area of the impact location. Plane Debris was not seen in a video directly after the impact. Eventually photos were released showing smaller pieces that look like parts of a plane. These were most likely staged / planted because they were not visible in some of the videos directly after the impact.  
5. A mystery plane was seen in the skies over the White House / Pentagon after the impact.
6. A US Major General studied impact photos and determined that it could not have been made by an airliner.
7. The Taxi driver who's car was supposedly struck by a light pole downed by the airliner said on video that it was a staged event.


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #262 on: April 24, 2016, 10:45:50 AM »
Zero evidence? There is plenty of evidence that there was a plane that flew over the Pentagon. There is zero evidence that a plane hit the Pentagon. Their own video surveillance proves this.

1. Witnesses saw a plane fly over them North of the Citgo gas station.
2. Poles were downed South of the Citgo gas station. How is this possible? Can this plane be in two locations at the same time?
3. A Pentagon impact video was released and an airliner is not visible in the video.
4. The lawn was not disturbed in the surrounding area of the impact location. Plane Debris was not seen in a video directly after the impact. Eventually photos were released showing smaller pieces that look like parts of a plane. These were most likely staged / planted because they were not visible in some of the videos directly after the impact.  
5. A mystery plane was seen in the skies over the White House / Pentagon after the impact.
6. A US Major General studied impact photos and determined that it could not have been made by an airliner.
7. The Taxi driver who's car was supposedly struck by a light pole downed by the airliner said on video that it was a staged event.



and thats your evidence?????
where are your witness statements?
Poles where down because they were hit by something
so the film didnt pick up a plane, did it pick up a missile?
the lawn wasnt disturbed because the plane didnt hit the lawn, maybe?
"Most likely" staged????
who saw the mystery plane?
who is the major general?
a taxi driver said????
whats the name of the taxi driver and what are his credentials and experience in setting up staged plane crashes?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #263 on: April 24, 2016, 11:29:59 AM »
and thats your evidence?????

Seek help.

where are your witness statements?

Watch the video and see the interviews with various witnesses:



Poles where down because they were hit by something

Poles can be brought down in many different ways, with explosions, cutting them, pulling them down etc.

so the film didnt pick up a plane, did it pick up a missile?

So you agree the video does not indicate a plane? Wow. That is all that is needed. Determining what the visible object was should then be up to a new investigation. A missile, a drone? Obviously there is an object visible in the video.


the lawn wasnt disturbed because the plane didnt hit the lawn, maybe?

A large airliner would have caused damage to the lawn if it was flying that low above the ground - based on the height of the impact:




"Most likely" staged????

Staged.


who saw the mystery plane?


It was reported on CNN, multiple people. There is even a video of it flying in the sky. Look at the video below - Anderson Cooper reported on it. You fucking moron!




who is the major general?

Albert Stubblebine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine


a taxi driver said????
whats the name of the taxi driver and what are his credentials and experience in setting up staged plane crashes?

Lloyde England - his wife worked for the FBI.
His experience in setting up plane crashes is irrelevant. You're playing dumb or are just plain moronic if you think anyone is claiming he was the mastermind in this whole scam. LMAO! What a fucking idiot you are!






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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #264 on: April 24, 2016, 01:20:56 PM »
Mystery plane was a doomsday plane, pretty obvious.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #265 on: April 24, 2016, 01:23:33 PM »
Quote from: Be There link=topic=607734.msg8467208#msg8467208 date=14615'13671
so why dont you slow it down and show me then?

I cant understand why, when you have absolutely nothing to go on still dont believe the official story.





Why don't I slow it down.. Simply Becuase I don't know how to.
Perhaps an expert like yourself could do it & show it is a plane.

I can't understand why you like to be so awkward & argumentative.
If you chose to believe the official government account 100%
Good for you, why do you have so much angst against those that either
Choose not too or question it.


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #266 on: April 24, 2016, 01:30:31 PM »
Seek help.

Watch the video and see the interviews with various witnesses:



Poles can be brought down in many different ways, with explosions, cutting them, pulling them down etc.

So you agree the video does not indicate a plane? Wow. That is all that is needed. Determining what the visible object was should then be up to a new investigation. A missile, a drone? Obviously there is an object visible in the video.

A large airliner would have caused damage to the lawn if it was flying that low above the ground - based on the height of the impact:



Staged.

It was reported on CNN, multiple people. There is even a video of it flying in the sky. Look at the video below - Anderson Cooper reported on it. You fucking moron!



Albert Stubblebine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine

Lloyde England - his wife worked for the FBI.
His experience in setting up plane crashes is irrelevant. You're playing dumb or are just plain moronic if you think anyone is claiming he was the mastermind in this whole scam. LMAO! What a fucking idiot you are!














Sadly I think you are wasting your time with him,
He clearly has his mind set ( Good For Him) & cannot handle
Anyone who doesn't believe or even questions the official government account.

Governments want everyone to believe 100% without questioning every thing
They say & do, as we all so clearly know they would never lie, harm or mislead People.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #267 on: April 24, 2016, 01:31:17 PM »




Why don't I slow it down.. Simply Becuase I don't know how to.
Perhaps an expert like yourself could do it & show it is a plane.

I can't understand why you like to be so awkward & argumentative.
If you chose to believe the official government account 100%
Good for you, why do you have so much angst against those that either
Choose not too or question it.



I couldnt give a single fuck either way mate, it doesnt matter to me if Trump set it all up.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #268 on: April 24, 2016, 01:35:38 PM »
I couldnt give a single fuck either way mate, it doesnt matter to me if Trump set it all up.





Surpringly - That is exactly who I feel about it.
Though it doesn't stop me asking questions or for explanations.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #269 on: April 24, 2016, 02:22:11 PM »


The proof below, please ban this government shill(ropo):



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excellent clips. thanks for sharing mate.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #270 on: April 24, 2016, 05:28:32 PM »
Okay, if a plane did hit the Pentagon, which it didn't...Did the wings, engines, and tail magically fold up and follow the plane into that nice round hole in the building?  They would have sheered off on impact.   The Pentagon was hit by a missile that was capable of penetrating the rings of the Pentagon.  It's obvious to anyone with a brain.  The fuselage of the planes would not be capable of penetrating to the inner rings of the Pentagon.  Let's see... 3 steel framed buildings all fell at free fall speed into their own footprints, which not one steel framed building has ever done so in the history of history, and a 747 had its wings, engines, and tail all fold up and follow it into a nice round hole in the Pentagon.  Hell of a day....  The Pentagon likely has the most surveillance of any building on earth, and we get one shitty little camera tape from that day.  How convenient..anybody that believes the official story of that day is just simply blind. 

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #271 on: April 24, 2016, 05:44:43 PM »
Okay, if a plane did hit the Pentagon, which it didn't...Did the wings, engines, and tail magically fold up and follow the plane into that nice round hole in the building?  They would have sheered off on impact.   The Pentagon was hit by a missile that was capable of penetrating the rings of the Pentagon.  It's obvious to anyone with a brain.  The fuselage of the planes would not be capable of penetrating to the inner rings of the Pentagon.  Let's see... 3 steel framed buildings all fell at free fall speed into their own footprints, which not one steel framed building has ever done so in the history of history, and a 747 had its wings, engines, and tail all fold up and follow it into a nice round hole in the Pentagon.  Hell of a day....  The Pentagon likely has the most surveillance of any building on earth, and we get one shitty little camera tape from that day.  How convenient..anybody that believes the official story of that day is just simply blind. 
Yep, good post. This is exactly what the Major General said. No way did the plane footprint match the initial small hole in the Pentagon. Of course later part of the wall collapsed and I am sure many people think that was the size of the impact.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #272 on: April 24, 2016, 06:08:44 PM »
Okay, if a plane did hit the Pentagon, which it didn't...Did the wings, engines, and tail magically fold up and follow the plane into that nice round hole in the building?  They would have sheered off on impact.   The Pentagon was hit by a missile that was capable of penetrating the rings of the Pentagon.  It's obvious to anyone with a brain.  The fuselage of the planes would not be capable of penetrating to the inner rings of the Pentagon.  Let's see... 3 steel framed buildings all fell at free fall speed into their own footprints, which not one steel framed building has ever done so in the history of history, and a 747 had its wings, engines, and tail all fold up and follow it into a nice round hole in the Pentagon.  Hell of a day....  The Pentagon likely has the most surveillance of any building on earth, and we get one shitty little camera tape from that day.  How convenient..anybody that believes the official story of that day is just simply blind. 
Post links to the witnesses that saw a missle flying overhead before it hit the pentagon.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #273 on: April 24, 2016, 06:14:01 PM »
I'm pretty sure by now that anyone that might the plot is probably dead or in gitmo.  Unless someone can hookup a car battery to the balls of Rumsfeld or Cheney you'll never know the truth.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #274 on: April 24, 2016, 06:33:52 PM »
excellent clips. thanks for sharing mate.

Make sure you share them.