rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?

[illuminati]

I am awake and I have not only smelled the coffee I have drunk it.
I have already said in this thread , people are twats, they do bad things, is it beyond the realms of possibility George Bush was behind 9/11 , no of course not.
Its just that you seem to believe like all tin foil hatters it was something other than planes that brought down the WTC and hit the Pentagon.

There isn't any evidence to the contrary that it was planes yet you still keep banging on about explosions.

And for the record, almost everyone in the USA thinks George Bush is a total incompetent yet he arranged and masterminded the bringing down the WTC?

Make your minds up.

Clearly You are Not That Awake -- Try Drinking More Coffee.
At No Point Have I said It was NOT Planes That Hit The Buildings
And or it was Exposives.

That I have doubts & question the Official Story --- Yes.


I see you Clearly Avoided Answering Anything To Do With The Hillsborough
Cover up & all The Official Lying That Took Place.

Why Does It Not Fit In With Your Official Story Being False.

It Is You That Seem To Be Willingly Wearing The Hat....
A Dunces Hat.

[OzmO]

Questioning doesn't legitimise the accusation-- No it Questions it.
More so & Correctly so when there is considerable doubt.
If you missed it -- it took 27yrs of fighting the official story & the establishment to get the Truth
As To What Happened at Hillsborough.

Apples and Oranges.  Just because Hillsborough was cover up doesn't 9/11 was

As to what happened & how on 9/11.
Some clearly know & the truth is there -- it's locked up hidden from the public for unknown reasons.
Or should I say Security Of The Nation Reasons.

Cleary just how a small group of terrorist managed to bring such a mighty power as America
To its Knees that Day & Expose it as being so vulnerable Really Does Need Answering.
Not Hiding & Sealing Documents away.
What have they to hide.

No, because there are many other far more plausible reasons to keep some of what happened that day classified.  And your exaggeration and hyperbole is typical of the ignorance of CT'ers.  There aren't any smoking guns, and there isn't a legitimate charge that has been verified by CT'ers in 15 years.

Thank Fcuk it wasn't Russia or China launching a Stealth Attack on America That Day
Chances are you'd be speaking another language now.

This statement shows just how uneducated you are about how america's defense systems works.  

You couldn't be more wrong.

I cannot stress the above sentence more.

[Yamcha]

It show how ignorant CT'ers are in general about a great many things.

  made me think of this

[OzmO]

made me think of this

lol yeah, i thought of it when i wrote it.  then erased it lol

[OzmO]

Awesome rebuttle. Can't argue with your scholar like logic.

You mean the logic that says "1500 professionals" are significant in relation to the millions in the profession they belong to.  The 1500 Professionals that haven't made a legit charge about that collapse of the WTC?

If there was any passible merit to their charges far more than less than .1% of them would be publishing papers that were peer reviewed showing how it couldn't have happened.

but yet we have CT'er spouting their rhetoric and flawed logic as if they really know something.

Yeah Tin foil hattery is appropriate here.

[Simple Simon]

2 planes (very likely flown via remote) flown into towers.
Missile fired into Pentagon , and in shanksville just a complete shit show of a mess made to look like a downed plane, but a failed attempt. Next, Norad is running a drill near the Canadian border which involve exercises mimicking hijacked planes and the people involved have no idea if they are participating in an exercise by the time the real attacks are made aware to them. Next, we have employees of the WTC who swear by their account that there were many explosions in the sub levels of the towers.when the towers collapse we see demolition squibbs bursting out the side clearly. Buildings collapse and pulverize for the first time in history (in 3 separate modern skyscrapers) on of which was not hit by plane. But you might argue x amount of reasons why all that is not possible, yet the same stories you believe are from the ones who tell you one of the terrorists passports fell to the ground after the plane hit the building in a firey ball...

The greatest lie ever told, to open the door to the middle east. Just look how many regimes the USA was able to topple and how many oil fields they have captured since that date.

and in all that time since that occurred which must have included a cast of thousands to simultaneously pull it off not one person has come forward to spill the beans.


Also, and its a big also, you have not a single scrap of evidence to back up a single thing you wrote.

let me try

Jesus was pissed at the publicity Allah was getting so he made planes appear and brought down the towers and made it look like a bunch or rag heads in caves did it.

That shite is as provable as your theory.

[OzmO]

and in all that time since that occurred which must have included a cast of thousands to simultaneously pull it off not one person has come forward to spill the beans.


Also, and its a big also, you have not a single scrap of evidence to back up a single thing you wrote.

let me try

Jesus was pissed at the publicity Allah was getting so he made planes appear and brought down the towers and made it look like a bunch or rag heads in caves did it.

That shite is as provable as your theory.

Compare that hundreds if not thousands that would have had to pull 9/11 off and keeping quiet for 15 years to the relative few that pulled watergate off were 1 came forward.

[M4tad0r]

Well, at least I was born far before this happening, and watch most of it in the live TV. so I don't have to depend on the foil hat bullshit like you do. Secondly, world is laughing to your level of ignorance, and it is well known fact that you silly fuckers can't find your home from the map of the world. Here in Europe we have a good education starting from the beginning, and that's why we know things better than your kind of morons. You see, foil hat claims are ridiculous crap, and you have to be seriously ill from the head if you don't realize it. People with the normal brains doesn't even have to think these things, they see only bunch of ridiculous lies, and those lies are core of your blind faith. For example, everyone who has throw a firecracker in the phone booth knows, that explosions are bad for the windows. If someone would come and claim that he has throw 20 kilos of dynamite in the phone booth and the explosion didn't break the windows, you wouldn't believe him. But if we scale up this same fucking idiotism, and talk about skyscraper and tons of explosives, you have no doubt that it has happen. That single thing proves that only reason to you to be here is blind faith, you doesn't think at all, and that's why you don't understand that foil hats has lie to you.

And why that rant about my nationality, while all you have to do is prove those explosions? Are you really such fucking idiot that you don't realize how obvious it is that you do everything to avoid to do so? Anybody sees that you are dodging the question because you do not really have the answer. That proves your knowledge about the matter is inadequate, because all of it is just foil hat crap. First they feed you with lies you want to believe, but in the next phase they doesn't provide the answers, and you make a complete fool of yourself trying "think with your own brains" which are full of shit.

Why do you keep coming back? Can't you read your own stupidity makes no sense? So now you are comparing firecrackers to the demolition of the twin towers? Have you ever seen a skyscraper in your live?

Your tiny mind does not have the intellectual quotient to assimilated the enormousness size that those building had and it was beyond the laws of physic for 15 floors to have the strength to bring down the rest of 95 foors down to it's base in mere SECONDS without resistance. Watch the video again retard.

 

We have proved here there were residue of explosives, you dummy, we seen live testimony of people hearing explosion through the building all the way down to the basement, the science to back up the demolition and we have a  video were we could hear the explosion in the background.

So what else did you need? An official report from our goverment stating there where explosions? The 9/11 commission never tested or look for it for it to begin with. Comes to show you what a liar Ozmo is, had he read the report really, and never bother to explain the omission of it.

The truth is our goverment tried really hard to shut down the investigation as quickly as possible. You wouldn't know since you live in Europe. And they spent less money investigating 9/11 than what the congress spent trying to impeach the prior President for having his dindong such by a whore, those are fact and it shows you how much they really tried to search for the truth.


 You say your country have great education system? Compare to who? Is Finland a world superpower? Is even Europe anymore? Why is it Europe is  getting run down by Muslims while we topple governments in the middle east?

It's really showing the lengh this goverment trolls would keep at it so peple stop reading this thread and finding more facts about that day. But don't you worry, the more you post, the easier it gets to demolish you and keep you OWNED!!!

[M4tad0r]

Do you really want to know? It make no difference what I answer, your blind faith force you claim it is a lie. You don't even have any other options, because then you should admit that foil hats has lie to you. That's why it would be better that you Google that by yourself, but you don't because you know you can't find answer you would like. And this you call "clarifying the truth"? What I have done, is give you simple examples about the impossible things in the foil hats theory. Things which yourself could confirm just by Google, because the errors what I have pointed out are so fucking obvious. What do you do? You hang in the foil hat theory like a maggot in the shit, and all you can do is that mindless rant? And every time you open your mouth, you prove your stupidity to every one who read this thread.

Let me explain one little thing to you. What ever I have write about the subject, I have done all the research about it while writing. That's how hard it is to find holes from the foil hat theory. During the years I have concentrate just in the most obvious and ridiculous lies, because they are the core of this foil hat theory, and that's why I know by 100% indubitably that there is no explosions. Nothing what so ever, because it would be complete impossible in those circumstances.
If you look it objectively, only way to make those explosions possible would be overrule the laws of physics, and that is completely impossible. And what is the ridiculous about this, you don't have even the faintest idea what I am talking about, because fucking gravity is only law of physics you have heard of. You fucking tool doesn't understand that for example, it is easy to calculate how much energy you need to apply to cut those core columns, and that would be equal to the amount of energy what you get from explosives, giving you a relatively accurate specks what is needed. If you know how much energy is needed, energy transfer law rules that if you release x mount of energy, it transfer to object to objet until it is all transferred to environment. That means if you release anything with the energy to cut those massive columns, the energy would be visible in many different ways while it is transferred to the environment. That's exactly what you DON'T see at the 9/11 videos, so it is 100% fact that explosions didn't happen. You believe foil hat crap because you are ignorant fucking tool, and you prove it just fine by yourself. Everything I have said is really easy to confirm, because IT IS ALL JUST A COMMON KNOWLEDGE YOU FIND FROM THE HANDBOOKS AND MANUALS. But the question is, can you do it? Or do you continue that foil hat rant with your blind faith? I bet you do, because you rather die than admit, that you were wrong  

  All this nonsense paragraph back up by bullshit and lies, and never answering the question, never giving us any links to the official report of the explanation to what happened to the black boxes of all 4 planes.

Keep at it retard, you are doing an excellent job.

[M4tad0r]

10 Disturbing 9/11 Facts

[M4tad0r]

Well a jury has now decided that 96 people were unlawfully killed, the police at the time made some bad decisions, however, and its a big however, some of the fans themselves were responsible for the awful events that day, have you heard the term "but for your actions", I think its tort law, but dont quote me on it.
If the jury had decided that it was death by misadventure would you have accepted that?
I think not, you see you are only happy when the result goes your way
That jury had immense pressure to go with the unlawful killing verdict due to them having to face the wrath of the public if they didnt.

What jury have revised what happened on 9/11? We don't want the answer to go our way. It's just the event's that 9/11 unleashed is still going today, do you understand? We keep toppling governments in the middle east, we shown you live testimony of General Wesly Clark who run for president, telling us they had already design plans to topple  Muslims goverments way back in 2002.

During the presidential debates, the nominees are telling us there is no money for college while the USA has spent trillions of dollars on War of aggression and keeps spending billions on arming terrorist in the Middle East.

We have a massive surveillance system spying on all citizens almost as bad as what you Brits have in England. We don't have cameras in every corner in the cities like you guys do, yet.

So excuse us if we look a little paranoid on this side of the pond.

[M4tad0r]

CIA And Pentagon Arming Opposite Sides In Syria

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327-story.html

[M4tad0r]

made me think of this

[chaos]

I'm beginning to think there are no eyewitnesses to a missle hitting the pentagon. 

[OzmO]

I'm beginning to think there are no eyewitnesses to a missle hitting the pentagon. 

There are plenty of youtube vids produced with dramatic music, flawed logic, rhetorical BS, and unsubstantiated claims, made with final cut pro to sway the CT'ers into a condescending frenzy of ignorance. 

But once exposed they run like little cowards.

[M4tad0r]

When you can't argue facts, misdirect the conversation. Bunch a female whiners we got here.

9/11 Debunker Gets His Ass Handed To Him By Richard Gage - 20/07/2009

[M4tad0r]

You goverment dick riders keep calling us names for just presenting facts, and instead of arguing against them, you just write insults.

For example, how and why did it took 7 years for the goverment to release the report on building 7 but it only took 2 year to come up with the official 9/11 commission report to one of the biggest terrorist attacks on our soil and the biggest failure at all levels of our goverment to prevent such attack?

Building 7, seven years, twin towers 2.

The commission was established on November 27, 2002 (442 days after the attack) and their final report was issued on July 22, 2004. The report was originally scheduled for release on May 27, 2004, but a compromise agreed to by Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert allowed a sixty-day extension through July 26.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission_Report

In May 2002, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) issued a report on the collapse based on a preliminary investigation conducted jointly with the Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers under leadership of Dr. W. Gene Corley, P.E. FEMA made preliminary findings that the collapse was not primarily caused by actual impact damage from the collapse of 1 WTC and 2 WTC but by fires on multiple stories ignited by debris from the other two towers that continued burning unabated due to lack of water for sprinklers or manual firefighting. The report did not reach conclusions about the cause of the collapse and called for further investigation.[26]

[OzmO]

When you can't argue facts, misdirect the conversation. Bunch a female whiners we got here.

9/11 Debunker Gets His Ass Handed To Him By Richard Gage - 20/07/2009

That's what you have been doing this whole time.  You get exposed and you run like a coward.

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11

You are a fraud and a coward.  Man up or shut up.

The Failures of the youtube monkey known as M4tad0r who is floating down the river of denial, fantasy, tinfoil hattery.

I am sure chaos and Ropo can cite many more.  But here are 3 from the last few pages of this thread:

9/11: Bush Admits “Explosives” Used At World Trade Center (Video)

Start watching at 0:37 seconds for a in your face revelation from non other than our own president. How you like them apples now?

All of you goverment shill defenders are OWNED!!!

Bush in a press conference talking about intel gathered from Khalid and doesn't mention WTC at all, and obviously misreads his speech.  But this is hailed by the youtube monkey as  "Bush Admits “Explosives” Used At World Trade Center"


He wants the CT to be real so bad, he ignore his intelligence, reading comprehension, and common sense.  

He doesn't even bother to read the transcript.

________________________ ________________________ ___________________

19 goat shepherds defeated a  multi-billion dollar defense system, masterminded by a terrorist hidden in cave of a 3rd world country, and 3 steel skyscrapers came down due to fuel and office fire. The offical truffer report on 9/11!!!

Here he builds on his fantasy starting with "19 goat shepherds" when many of these Terrorists when 10 of the 19 either graduated from College or attended college.  Not too many goat shepherds typically have college education in things like civil law and avionics.

Its really sad to see a person having to outright lie to make a point about a tinfoil hat fantasy.
________________________ ________________________ ___________________

This one shows his level of desperation to make his fantasy real:

In the aftermath there have been studies done on the WTC's and what happened that day.  Its also a very common discussion engineering schools at one point or another.

Other than a few thousand mostly crack pot engineers which represent far less than 1% of the of educated people in the world who know BS pseudoscience, and legitimate engineering science, no one has pointed out with peer reviewed assertions based on hard evidence, not flawed logic, or BS rhetoric, that its was a demolition.  

Where? Please give some links to such claims.

Here is a link:

http://engineering.stanford.edu/news/stanford-engineers-study-911-lessons-how-help-buildings-withstand-threats

So where is the study and discussion explaining the the collapse of the twin towers?

Can't understand he's own links.

HAHAHAHAHAHA   Ozmo

Still OWNED!!!!

M4tad0r doesn't think a discussion about how the WTC's failed preceded a study and discussion about how to make buildings safer from terrorist attacks from 9/11?

What kind of stupid is this man?

[M4tad0r]

Surreal Pictures Inside WTC 6 Destroys 9/11 Cover Story For Ever !

[Colossus_1986]

I'm beginning to think there are no eyewitnesses to a missle hitting the pentagon.  

Pentagon is the most secure building in the Country, and only 3 frames from 1 camera is what we have?

C'mon use your head.
Do you really think they'd shy from showing something hit the building after we see so many angles of the towers being hit, and people jumping from
windows? The footage is not out there, because they don't want it known or seen... Plain and simple. Surrounding businesses has their security footage confiscated
immediately after the smoke started rising from the Pentagon.

[lilhawk1]

2 planes (very likely flown via remote) flown into towers.
Missile fired into Pentagon , and in shanksville just a complete shit show of a mess made to look like a downed plane, but a failed attempt. Next, Norad is running a drill near the Canadian border which involve exercises mimicking hijacked planes and the people involved have no idea if they are participating in an exercise by the time the real attacks are made aware to them. Next, we have employees of the WTC who swear by their account that there were many explosions in the sub levels of the towers.when the towers collapse we see demolition squibbs bursting out the side clearly. Buildings collapse and pulverize for the first time in history (in 3 separate modern skyscrapers) on of which was not hit by plane. But you might argue x amount of reasons why all that is not possible, yet the same stories you believe are from the ones who tell you one of the terrorists passports fell to the ground after the plane hit the building in a firey ball...

The greatest lie ever told, to open the door to the middle east. Just look how many regimes the USA was able to topple and how many oil fields they have captured since that date.

This^^^.  The whole official story is complete bullshit... I can't believe how many people are just asleep and believe bullshit lies.

[SF1900]

So, basically we have a few getbiggers posting evidence and logic and science.

And a bunch of others saying, "ITS A CONSPIRACY" without proving any evidence, and when asked for evidence, they just say, "Come on, its so obvious."

[Colossus_1986]

So, basically we have a few getbiggers posting evidence and logic and science.

And a bunch of others saying, "ITS A CONSPIRACY" without proving any evidence, and when asked for evidence, they just say, "Come on, its so obvious."

There is such a lack of evidence and THAT is the problem.

Supposedly a plane hit the pentagon (NO DEBRIS)
Supposedlt a plane flew into a field in shanksvill PA, (NO DEBRIS)

That's one side of the argument, and supports the claims of many who suspect we are being lied to. Where's the wreckage associated with a plane crash? How about YOU provide US the evidence for that one.


This plane (flight 93) managed to disintegrate and mulch itself into the soil...


and another disappearing act:

[lilhawk1]

Pentagon is the most secure building in the Country, and only 3 frames from 1 camera is what we have?

C'mon use your head.
Do you really think they'd shy from showing something hit the building after we see so many angles of the towers being hit, and people jumping from
windows? The footage is not out there, because they don't want it known or seen... Plain and simple. Surrounding businesses has their security footage confiscated
immediately after the smoke started rising from the Pentagon.

 I've been saying the same thing.  The most secure building on the planet, and one shitty little camera angle is shown from the day that changed history.. How anyone can believe that was the only camera is beyond me... Look at some of the bullshit vids online of the jets hitting the towers.. The nose comes out the other side... How does that happen?? Fake video..  Simple... Flight 93 was shot down.. Arab high jackers with box cutters... What a joke... Got us in a war that we wanted though...

[lilhawk1]

Wake up and look at other plane crashes.... There is wreckage everywhere... No matter how the plane crashed, nosedive, whatever... There is always debris... Flight 93, none...Pentagon, none...