rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?

[M4tad0r]

and 9/11 was to spy on you via the internet?

Fuck me, and they still let you have guns?
Dont you think in the grand scheme of things if they wanted control the first thing they would do is disarm you?

Sandy Hook. Sounds familiar? Was an incident where they used to push gun control.

Sandy Hook: one year on, campaigners prepare for new push on gun control

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/13/sandy-hook-campaigners-push-gun-control

[OzmO]

There is such a lack of evidence and THAT is the problem.

Supposedly a plane hit the pentagon (NO DEBRIS)
Supposedlt a plane flew into a field in shanksvill PA, (NO DEBRIS)

That's one side of the argument, and supports the claims of many who suspect we are being lied to. Where's the wreckage associated with a plane crash? How about YOU provide US the evidence for that one.


This plane (flight 93) managed to disintegrate and mulch itself into the soil...


and another disappearing act:

Wrong again.  almost all of it.

[OzmO]

The Troll game is strong with this one  

No trolling,  What i see are cowards.  who make claims that are shown to be false and they hide.

You are one of them.

And now you crying "trolling" like some little whiny bitch.

Man up.

[M4tad0r]

Wrong again.  almost all of it.

When you can't argue facts, misdirect the conversation.  

9/11 Debunker Gets His Ass Handed To Him By Richard Gage - 20/07/2009

Government dick riders logic 101.

[OzmO]

When you can't argue facts, misdirect the conversation.  

9/11 Debunker Gets His Ass Handed To Him By Richard Gage - 20/07/2009

Government dick riders logic 101.

I have blasted your cowardly dumbass already.

Man the fuck up bitch.

When you can't argue facts, misdirect the conversation. Bunch a female whiners we got here.

9/11 Debunker Gets His Ass Handed To Him By Richard Gage - 20/07/2009

That's what you have been doing this whole time.  You get exposed and you run like a coward.

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11

You are a fraud and a coward.  Man up or shut up.

The Failures of the youtube monkey known as M4tad0r who is floating down the river of denial, fantasy, tinfoil hattery.

I am sure chaos and Ropo can cite many more.  But here are 3 from the last few pages of this thread:

9/11: Bush Admits “Explosives” Used At World Trade Center (Video)

Start watching at 0:37 seconds for a in your face revelation from non other than our own president. How you like them apples now?

All of you goverment shill defenders are OWNED!!!

Bush in a press conference talking about intel gathered from Khalid and doesn't mention WTC at all, and obviously misreads his speech.  But this is hailed by the youtube monkey as  "Bush Admits “Explosives” Used At World Trade Center"


He wants the CT to be real so bad, he ignore his intelligence, reading comprehension, and common sense.  

He doesn't even bother to read the transcript.

________________________ ________________________ ___________________

19 goat shepherds defeated a  multi-billion dollar defense system, masterminded by a terrorist hidden in cave of a 3rd world country, and 3 steel skyscrapers came down due to fuel and office fire. The offical truffer report on 9/11!!!

Here he builds on his fantasy starting with "19 goat shepherds" when many of these Terrorists when 10 of the 19 either graduated from College or attended college.  Not too many goat shepherds typically have college education in things like civil law and avionics.

Its really sad to see a person having to outright lie to make a point about a tinfoil hat fantasy.
________________________ ________________________ ___________________

This one shows his level of desperation to make his fantasy real:

In the aftermath there have been studies done on the WTC's and what happened that day.  Its also a very common discussion engineering schools at one point or another.

Other than a few thousand mostly crack pot engineers which represent far less than 1% of the of educated people in the world who know BS pseudoscience, and legitimate engineering science, no one has pointed out with peer reviewed assertions based on hard evidence, not flawed logic, or BS rhetoric, that its was a demolition.  

Where? Please give some links to such claims.

Here is a link:

http://engineering.stanford.edu/news/stanford-engineers-study-911-lessons-how-help-buildings-withstand-threats

So where is the study and discussion explaining the the collapse of the twin towers?

Can't understand he's own links.

HAHAHAHAHAHA   Ozmo

Still OWNED!!!!

M4tad0r doesn't think a discussion about how the WTC's failed preceded a study and discussion about how to make buildings safer from terrorist attacks from 9/11?

What kind of stupid is this man?

[M4tad0r]

Solving 9/11 2016 with Christopher Bollyn- Hagerstown MD Jan 28, 2016

[OzmO]

Its a sad state of affairs that you  CTer's are so cowardly you can't back up you bull shit when its called out and exposed.

You people are pathetic.

Collosus_1986
M4tad0r
lilhawk1
Brink

[M4tad0r]

Its a sad state of affairs that you  CTer's are so cowardly you can't back up you bull shit when its called out and exposed.

You people are pathetic.

Collosus_1986
M4tad0r
lilhawk1
Brink

WTF??? What evidence have you provided? Is this real? Is he for real?

Goverment dick riders logic 101.  

We are presenting the evidences, where are yours?

You forgot Vegas.

[illuminati]

Apples and Oranges.  Just because Hillsborough was cover up doesn't 9/11 was
1, No it doesn't mean it also is a cover up, Then again it May Just be.
Though there are many dissenting knowledgable people.

No, because there are many other far more plausible reasons to keep some of what happened that day classified.  And your exaggeration and hyperbole is typical of the ignorance of CT'ers.  There aren't any smoking guns, and there isn't a legitimate charge that has been verified by CT'ers in 15 years.
2, Far more Plausible reasons --- Really -- And They Might Be.
Exaggeration & Hyperbole  ooh yes.
It appears to be You That's Getting Over Excited.


This statement shows just how uneducated you are about how america's defense systems works.  

You couldn't be more wrong.[/b][/u][/size]

I cannot stress the above sentence more.

3, Uneducated Ref The American Defence System How it Works or Rather Didn't  -- Yes I am.
That does not change the Fact that according to the official story -- A Bunch of Terrorists managed to Embarrass America -- And Your Defence System Either Allowed it / Or Just Plain Couldn't Stop it.
And No I Don't Include the 1st 2planes to hit the Twin Towers.

Like it or not -- Had it Been Russia / China Behind them attacks & Had There Been a lot more of them,
America Would of Suffered Very Badly -- Not That It Didn't AnyWay.

Really do try & Keep calmer it's not good for your blood pressure.

I have no agenda as to what took place that day, I look & listen to both sides & am yet to be
Convinced by either.

[OzmO]

WTF??? What evidence have you provided? Is this real? Is he for real?

Goverment dick riders logic 101.  

We are presenting the evidences, where are yours?

You forgot Vegas.

No, LV doesn't run.

and you haven't presented shit, other than BS youtube vids, and then you have ran away from everything i have thrown back in your face.

In case you forgot:

When you can't argue facts, misdirect the conversation. Bunch a female whiners we got here.

9/11 Debunker Gets His Ass Handed To Him By Richard Gage - 20/07/2009

That's what you have been doing this whole time.  You get exposed and you run like a coward.

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11

You are a fraud and a coward.  Man up or shut up.

The Failures of the youtube monkey known as M4tad0r who is floating down the river of denial, fantasy, tinfoil hattery.

I am sure chaos and Ropo can cite many more.  But here are 3 from the last few pages of this thread:

9/11: Bush Admits “Explosives” Used At World Trade Center (Video)

Start watching at 0:37 seconds for a in your face revelation from non other than our own president. How you like them apples now?

All of you goverment shill defenders are OWNED!!!

Bush in a press conference talking about intel gathered from Khalid and doesn't mention WTC at all, and obviously misreads his speech.  But this is hailed by the youtube monkey as  "Bush Admits “Explosives” Used At World Trade Center"


He wants the CT to be real so bad, he ignore his intelligence, reading comprehension, and common sense.  

He doesn't even bother to read the transcript.

________________________ ________________________ ___________________

19 goat shepherds defeated a  multi-billion dollar defense system, masterminded by a terrorist hidden in cave of a 3rd world country, and 3 steel skyscrapers came down due to fuel and office fire. The offical truffer report on 9/11!!!

Here he builds on his fantasy starting with "19 goat shepherds" when many of these Terrorists when 10 of the 19 either graduated from College or attended college.  Not too many goat shepherds typically have college education in things like civil law and avionics.

Its really sad to see a person having to outright lie to make a point about a tinfoil hat fantasy.
________________________ ________________________ ___________________

This one shows his level of desperation to make his fantasy real:

In the aftermath there have been studies done on the WTC's and what happened that day.  Its also a very common discussion engineering schools at one point or another.

Other than a few thousand mostly crack pot engineers which represent far less than 1% of the of educated people in the world who know BS pseudoscience, and legitimate engineering science, no one has pointed out with peer reviewed assertions based on hard evidence, not flawed logic, or BS rhetoric, that its was a demolition.  

Where? Please give some links to such claims.

Here is a link:

http://engineering.stanford.edu/news/stanford-engineers-study-911-lessons-how-help-buildings-withstand-threats

So where is the study and discussion explaining the the collapse of the twin towers?

Can't understand he's own links.

HAHAHAHAHAHA   Ozmo

Still OWNED!!!!

M4tad0r doesn't think a discussion about how the WTC's failed preceded a study and discussion about how to make buildings safer from terrorist attacks from 9/11?

What kind of stupid is this man?

[OzmO]

illuminati,

Apples and Oranges.  Just because Hillsborough was cover up doesn't 9/11 was
1, No it doesn't mean it also is a cover up, Then again it May Just be.
Though there are many dissenting knowledgable people.

No, because there are many other far more plausible reasons to keep some of what happened that day classified.  And your exaggeration and hyperbole is typical of the ignorance of CT'ers.  There aren't any smoking guns, and there isn't a legitimate charge that has been verified by CT'ers in 15 years.
2, Far more Plausible reasons --- Really -- And They Might Be.
Exaggeration & Hyperbole   ooh yes.
It appears to be You That's Getting Over Excited.


This statement shows just how uneducated you are about how america's defense systems works.  

You couldn't be more wrong.[/b][/u][/size]

I cannot stress the above sentence more.

3, Uneducated Ref The American Defence System How it Works or Rather Didn't  -- Yes I am.
That does not change the Fact that according to the official story -- A Bunch of Terrorists managed to Embarrass America -- And Your Defence System Either Allowed it / Or Just Plain Couldn't Stop it.
And No I Don't Include the 1st 2planes to hit the Twin Towers.

Like it or not -- Had it Been Russia / China Behind them attacks & Had There Been a lot more of them,
America Would of Suffered Very Badly -- Not That It Didn't AnyWay.

Really do try & Keep calmer it's not good for your blood pressure.

I have no agenda as to what took place that day, I look & listen to both sides & am yet to be
Convinced by either.

Dude can you learn how to use the quote, unquote tags?

I will try and piece out this one:

3, Uneducated Ref The American Defence System How it Works or Rather Didn't  -- Yes I am.
That does not change the Fact that according to the official story -- A Bunch of Terrorists managed to Embarrass America -- And Your Defence System Either Allowed it / Or Just Plain Couldn't Stop it.
And No I Don't Include the 1st 2planes to hit the Twin Towers.

Like it or not -- Had it Been Russia / China Behind them attacks & Had There Been a lot more of them,
America Would of Suffered Very Badly -- Not That It Didn't AnyWay.

This what you said:

Thank Fcuk it wasn't Russia or China launching a Stealth Attack on America That Day
Chances are you'd be speaking another language now.

This totally shows you have no idea how the defense system worked then.

[OzmO]

Lol, I really have to say this is one of the most interesting threads I've ever seen.

Its fun, tedious at times.  but fun.

[M4tad0r]

Its fun, tedious at times.  but fun.

Thinking you'are winning.   Government dick riding logic 101

Sean Stone and Christopher Bollyn on 9 11, Israel & the Mossad

http://www.bollyn.com/public/Solving_9-11_-_The_Deception_That_Changed_The_World.pdf

Maybe you would learn something!!!

[lilhawk1]

Its fun, tedious at times.  but fun.

You need to do some research.  Answer this smart guy:

Why we're thermite and nano-thermite found in the debris at WTC?  
Why did all 3 WTC buildings fall at near free fall speed, and actually accelerate as they fell?
Why did Silverstein say they pulled WTC 7? That's an admission it was demolished correct?
Why only one shitty camera angle of the Pentagon, the most protected building on earth?
Why did the FBI confiscate all security camera footage from businesses surrounding the Pentagon within minutes?
Why did George Bush say in an interview he saw the first plane hit the tower, when he was sitting in a classroom at the time?  He knew what was to happen that day that's why.
Why could our military not intercept a single jet that day when they had done so dozens of times that year?
Why no wreckage at Pentagon?
Why no wreckage at Shanksville?
Why did Rumsfeld slip up and say in an interview that a missile hit the Pentagon?
Why was the WTC debris rapidly sent to China?  Was it not a crime scene?
Why so little time and money spent on the investigation of the event that changed our world?
Why so many reports of explosions at WTC?
Why were there demolition squibs on the floors below the collapsing towers?
Why so much dust if no explosives were used?  

Read, do some research, I've listed off at least 2 books.. Why not read them?  The facts are all laid out.  Interviews with military, flight controllers, pilots, engineers, architects, etc.  instead you provide no evidence except the bullshit investigation, and resort to name calling.  Grow up.

[illuminati]

illuminati,

Dude can you learn how to use the quote, unquote tags?

I will try and piece out this one:

This what you said:

This totally shows you have no idea how the defense system worked then.

Why don't you learn a few things also.

Starting with knowing when you have lost an argument.

You try very hard to portray yourself as Some kind of Interlectual / Expert
Clearly You Are Far From Either.

You may not like my posting / Reply Style - It was not very hard to follow.
Yet another 'Legend in his Own Mind'  Who we're Better Off Ignoring.

[OzmO]

You need to do some research.  Answer this smart guy:

Why we're thermite and nano-thermite found in the debris at WTC?  
Why did all 3 WTC buildings fall at near free fall speed, and actually accelerate as they fell?
Why did Silverstein say they pulled WTC 7? That's an admission it was demolished correct?
Why only one shitty camera angle of the Pentagon, the most protected building on earth?
Why did the FBI confiscate all security camera footage from businesses surrounding the Pentagon within minutes?
Why did George Bush say in an interview he saw the first plane hit the tower, when he was sitting in a classroom at the time?  He knew what was to happen that day that's why.
Why could our military not intercept a single jet that day when they had done so dozens of times that year?
Why no wreckage at Pentagon?
Why no wreckage at Shanksville?
Why did Rumsfeld slip up and say in an interview that a missile hit the Pentagon?
Why was the WTC debris rapidly sent to China?  Was it not a crime scene?
Why so little time and money spent on the investigation of the event that changed our world?
Why so many reports of explosions at WTC?
Why were there demolition squibs on the floors below the collapsing towers?
Why so much dust if no explosives were used?  

Read, do some research, I've listed off at least 2 books.. Why not read them?  The facts are all laid out.  Interviews with military, flight controllers, pilots, engineers, architects, etc.  instead you provide no evidence except the bullshit investigation, and resort to name calling.  Grow up.

At first glance all the stuff you wrote their not true.


I have been debunking 9/11 off and on for the last 9 years.  Chances are I have done far more actual research than you.   I have done independent research, and interviewed people who have expertise in fields related to 9/11.

I started out believing there might have been a CT here.  It didn't take long.  There is nothing even remotely credible to substantiate 9/11 truffer arguments.

So don't carried away thinking i haven't done any research.

I call people names because when i show them to be 100% wrong they run like bitches.

Exmaple: the youtube monkey


Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11

Are you gonna run too?

Pic any part of it you want.  We could do easy ones like no wreckage at the pentagon or harder ones like the thermite argument.  Commit that you will stay on the part you pick until the bitter end and i will go round and round with as long as you like.  

But understand this, the burden of proof is on you, the accuser.   Because the case has been made and main stream science agrees.

[OzmO]

Why don't you learn a few things also.

Starting with knowing when you have lost an argument.

You try very hard to portray yourself as Some kind of Interlectual / Expert
Clearly You Are Far From Either.

You may not like my posting / Reply Style - It was not very hard to follow.
Yet another 'Legend in his Own Mind'  Who we're Better Off Ignoring.

There is nothing for me to learn here.

You are ignorant when you say:

Thank Fcuk it wasn't Russia or China launching a Stealth Attack on America That Day
Chances are you'd be speaking another language now.

It shows you have no fucking idea what you are talking about when you say this. 

[illuminati]

There is nothing for me to learn here.

You are ignorant when you say:

It shows you have no fucking idea what you are talking about when you say this. 

Go away -- You Silly Little Man.
You Have Gone Past Your Sell By Date.

'Expert & Legend In Your Own Mind'

I will Treat You With The Contempt You Desrve From Now On.

[Army of One]

At first glance all the stuff you wrote their not true.


I have been debunking 9/11 off and on for the last 9 years.  Chances are I have done far more actual research than you.   I have done independent research, and interviewed people who have expertise in fields related to 9/11.

I started out believing there might have been a CT here.  It didn't take long.  There is nothing even remotely credible to substantiate 9/11 truffer arguments.

So don't carried away thinking i haven't done any research.

I call people names because when i show them to be 100% wrong they run like bitches.

Exmaple: the youtube monkey


Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11

Are you gonna run too?

Pic any part of it you want.  We could do easy ones like no wreckage at the pentagon or harder ones like the thermite argument.  Commit that you will stay on the part you pick until the bitter end and i will go round and round with as long as you like.  

But understand this, the burden of proof is on you, the accuser.   Because the case has been made and main stream science agrees.

the randi forums have disproved over and over the conspiracy nonsense

[M4tad0r]

Go away -- You Silly Little Man.
You Have Gone Past Your Sell By Date.

'Expert & Legend In Your Own Mind'

I will Treat You With The Contempt You Desrve From Now On.

Just ignore him, is the best recourse, he's so stupid that he could not understand that the reference to the 19 goat shepherds was a metaphor and I was just trolling him.

What kind of Saudi radical Muslim goat shepherd would have come to Florida to get drunk, hang out with strippers and snort coke.

"I have been debunking 9/11 off and on for the last 9 years.  Chances are I have done far more actual research than you.   I have done independent research, and interviewed people who have expertise in fields related to 9/11."

OZMO 'Expert & Legend In Your Own Mind' when he can't argue with facts, misdirects the conversation.

Government dick rider's logic 101  

[chaos]

Sooo, can't provide one single shred of evidence or witness to a missle hitting the pentagon but I'm supposed to believe it cause a few weirdos say so

[M4tad0r]

Who's arguing about a missile?

What ever happened to the engines of the plane? or it's black box?

Many questions, not that many answers.

[OzmO]

Go away -- You Silly Little Man.
You Have Gone Past Your Sell By Date.

'Expert & Legend In Your Own Mind'

I will Treat You With The Contempt You Desrve From Now On.

\

You can't back up what you say?

What are you afraid of?  

I guess i will add you to the list of ignorant cowards.

Pathetic.  lol

Point is, you have no idea how the air defense worked back then and all you can do run like little bitch.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


 

[OzmO]

Just ignore him, is the best recourse, he's so stupid that he could not understand that the reference to the 19 goat shepherds was a metaphor and I was just trolling him.

What kind of Saudi radical Muslim goat shepherd would have come to Florida to get drunk, hang out with strippers and snort coke.

"I have been debunking 9/11 off and on for the last 9 years.  Chances are I have done far more actual research than you.   I have done independent research, and interviewed people who have expertise in fields related to 9/11."

OZMO 'Expert & Legend In Your Own Mind' when he can't argue with facts, misdirects the conversation.

Government dick rider's logic 101 

HAHAHAH  COWARD!

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11

You are a fraud and a coward.  Man up or shut up.

The Failures of the youtube monkey known as M4tad0r who is floating down the river of denial, fantasy, tinfoil hattery.

I am sure chaos and Ropo can cite many more.  But here are 3 from the last few pages of this thread:

9/11: Bush Admits “Explosives” Used At World Trade Center (Video)

Start watching at 0:37 seconds for a in your face revelation from non other than our own president. How you like them apples now?

All of you goverment shill defenders are OWNED!!!

Bush in a press conference talking about intel gathered from Khalid and doesn't mention WTC at all, and obviously misreads his speech.  But this is hailed by the youtube monkey as  "Bush Admits “Explosives” Used At World Trade Center"


He wants the CT to be real so bad, he ignore his intelligence, reading comprehension, and common sense.  

He doesn't even bother to read the transcript.

________________________ ________________________ ___________________

19 goat shepherds defeated a  multi-billion dollar defense system, masterminded by a terrorist hidden in cave of a 3rd world country, and 3 steel skyscrapers came down due to fuel and office fire. The offical truffer report on 9/11!!!

Here he builds on his fantasy starting with "19 goat shepherds" when many of these Terrorists when 10 of the 19 either graduated from College or attended college.  Not too many goat shepherds typically have college education in things like civil law and avionics.

Its really sad to see a person having to outright lie to make a point about a tinfoil hat fantasy.
________________________ ________________________ ___________________

This one shows his level of desperation to make his fantasy real:

In the aftermath there have been studies done on the WTC's and what happened that day.  Its also a very common discussion engineering schools at one point or another.

Other than a few thousand mostly crack pot engineers which represent far less than 1% of the of educated people in the world who know BS pseudoscience, and legitimate engineering science, no one has pointed out with peer reviewed assertions based on hard evidence, not flawed logic, or BS rhetoric, that its was a demolition.  

Where? Please give some links to such claims.

Here is a link:

http://engineering.stanford.edu/news/stanford-engineers-study-911-lessons-how-help-buildings-withstand-threats

So where is the study and discussion explaining the the collapse of the twin towers?

Can't understand he's own links.

HAHAHAHAHAHA   Ozmo

Still OWNED!!!!

M4tad0r doesn't think a discussion about how the WTC's failed preceded a study and discussion about how to make buildings safer from terrorist attacks from 9/11?

What kind of stupid is this man?

[M4tad0r]

How To Destroy a 9/11 Truther

Goverment dick riders manual 101