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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1050 on: May 11, 2016, 12:00:20 PM »

First article:

"Witnesses said the C-130 hit the top of the building"  Does that picture look to you of the top of the building?

Secons article:



What do we see? Engines.

Third article:

Pro goverment website, maybe infiltrated by CIA.

article from website:

.J. O’Rourke: I’m Endorsing Hillary Clinton, the Devil We Know

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/11/p-j-o-rourke-i-m-endorsing-hillary-clinton-the-devil-we-know.html

About the plane:









You didn't read the whole article.  So you are wrong as usual.   But that doesn't matter until you clear these matters:

These are things YOU claimed and they have been shown to be WRONG:

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1051 on: May 11, 2016, 12:09:31 PM »
These are things YOU claimed and they have been shown to be WRONG:

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11


this is not going away     :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Construction_of_the_World_Trade_Center

What does all this mean? Please explain and how it correlates with the 15 floors bringing down the rest of the 95  floors due to office fire in a staggering 12 seconds, pulverization everything from concrete, humans, office furniture and throwing steel beens 600 yards to the side.

All this happened while taking the path of most resistance straight down to it's very base, while destroying all 115 floors, thank you in advance.

Also you mind explaining how could the top part of the south tower that started tilting down to the side while going down could have  pulverize in mid air before touching the ground? Again thank you in advance for you explanation.

And this is not going away either  ;D

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Government dick rider's logic 101: Coincidence!!! 

Who's been debunking CT's for 9 years with: "Again you are wrong"........

That's what you have been doing this whole time Ozmo, getting exposed!!! Hasbara.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1052 on: May 11, 2016, 12:10:23 PM »
Hundreds of eye-witnesses testify that the Twin Towers were Blown Up with Bombs



Keep at it imbecile!!!

Your retardation, it shows:



By the way, that retard was elected to be a president of your country..

How many times I have to explain to you, that it doesn't matter people think they heard, while there isn't even the slightest evidence about the explosions in any video filmed at that day? It is completely clear fact that you can't hide the explosions which are powerful enough to cut massive steel columns inside the house which walls are full of glass. Furthermore, it isn't impossible because I say it is, but because of the laws of physics which make it impossible. If you have seen explosions at any video, why it is so fucking hard to link it here? Because there isn't any video with such thing. In 15 years I haven't seen one, and those videos are in the satellite TV and cable channels just about 24/7.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1053 on: May 11, 2016, 12:11:52 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Construction_of_the_World_Trade_Center

What does all this mean? Please explain and how it correlates with the 15 floors bringing down the rest of the 95  floors due to office fire in a staggering 12 seconds, pulverization everything from concrete, humans, office furniture and throwing steel beens 600 yards to the side.

All this happened while taking the path of most resistance straight down to it's very base, while destroying all 115 floors, thank you in advance.

Also you mind explaining how could the top part of the south tower that started tilting down to the side while going down could have  pulverize in mid air before touching the ground? Again thank you in advance for you explanation.

And this is not going away either  ;D

Ozmo "The Cheese American" full of rubbish,

"The legend on his own mind"

Government dick rider's logic 101: Coincidence!!! 

Who's been debunking CT's for 9 years with: "Again you are wrong"........

That's what you have been doing this whole time Ozmo, getting exposed!!! Hasbara.

Man up & shut da fuck up!!!


All you been doing is getting:



These are things YOU claimed and they have been shown to be WRONG:

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11


this is not going away      :D

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1054 on: May 11, 2016, 12:15:24 PM »
Good points, a clear path is emerging now, but? As for the whole inside the pentagon, we know that the front of the plane is like paper, and is the first thing to be crash like a tin can on contact, so the question is, was the whole we see in the pictures on the outer walls made by the engine which is not shown, or could be the smaller plane shot a missile before contact to secure maximum destruction to that wing of the pentagon where they hosted the team that was investigating the 2 trillion dollars that was not accounted which Donal Rumsfeld was on TV asking for?

Do you think Rumsfeld was in it in the 9/11 deception? Or was more of a Dick Cheney, Bush and Zionist Jews connection who did it?

To date nothing has been dug up on Rumsfeld, can't find any corruption going on with him, and he did get kick out of the Government before Bush Jr second term came to an end. Colin Powell did show to be an useful idiot as well when he gave the Presentation to the UN Security Council On Iraq's WMD Program.



I'd say you're referring to the mysterious "punch out" hole, which is the one from the C-Ring.

A barely-published fact is that the travel space between the exterior and it, included an area designed without walls (only building-support columns) -- so it is conceivable that a heavy part continued to move forward until it met the C-Ring wall.  In fact, that's where a wheel can be seen, as well as other landing-gear parts.

Yes, those guys need to be questioned about certain areas, while under oath.  No doubt whatsoever, it would cause them to be tripped-up at some point during or after that.  They would be in a world of trouble.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1055 on: May 11, 2016, 12:16:15 PM »
9/11 Debunker Gets His Ass Handed To Him By Richard Gage



7th grade physics here in the USA. Do you get it? Imbecile!!!

Stupid, what kind are you?:



You mean that asshat, which real architects didn't want to have anything to do with?  His first argument proves he is just an idiot: There was just normal office fires... Excuse me, but what is the normal office fire? How it is measured?? And when 400 meters tall building collapses on 250 meter tall building, it isn't significant at all? Only mentally ill fucking idiot would use arguments like that, while it is evident that it was quite significant. And please, what exactly even could be normal in that situation? Two of the world largest buildings have collapsed, one on top of the WTC 7, which was burning 8 hours before it collapse? Are you mad? Normal office fires...burning straight 8 hours through the building? Why it seem to me that this moron is underestimating the significance of the facts of the matter and just lying? Did I mention facts of the matter? Well, prove there were just normal office fires? In reality, no one have that knowledge, because no one see it, because collapses and dust form the twin towers. How can he say so? Truth doesn't mean anything to these assholes, so he claims it is so, knowing there isn't any evidence at all. And you believe, because of the blind faith. Quite simple, just like you are  ;D

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1056 on: May 11, 2016, 12:23:52 PM »
And just for the record.

I do support another investigation into 9/11.  As do some 50% of the people do in polls.

but i am pretty sure the vast majority of them don't believe the WTC's where pre-wired or a missile hit the pentagon.

they suspect, as i do, some people needed to lose their jobs or go to jail because of their failures leading to or on 9/11

And just for the record, after 43 pages on this thread and you go and post this questions below shows what a Government dick rider shill you are. Who are you kidding?  ::)


And again here are some questions you have to ask to explain pre-wired and have evidence to support them:

How did they get explosives in the building with out anyone knowing?
Why would they need to with planes hitting it?
How did they access the steel beems with out anyone knowing?

What evidence is there of this?

(also could ask more questions)


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1057 on: May 11, 2016, 12:24:50 PM »
Too Stupid to Know They’re Stupid

I keep running across these numbnuts who really are too stupid to know just how stupid they actually are.  You know the kind of people I mean, the ones whose idiocy makes your head explode?

http://bitchspot.jadedragononline.com/2016/04/20/stupid-know-theyre-stupid/



Do you really think that means anything to me? Well, think again, because your weakness is obvious, because you cannot prove fuck about the theory what you are defending. All you can do is flood this thread wit completely irrelevant crap which show only your stupidity. Your blind fait makes you a pitiful little creature, and that's all you are. If you would have a brains, you would try to find videos which really has something else but opinions and claims, like...wait a minute... like something even faintly similar than evidence? Why we never see that happen? Can you explain that? You see, truth about this matter isn't complicated at all, it is quite simple. Want to hear it? YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING. Try to understand that  ;D

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1058 on: May 11, 2016, 12:26:27 PM »
And just for the record, after 43 pages on this thread and you go and post this questions below shows what a Government dick rider shill you are. Who are you kidding?  ::)



These are things YOU claimed and they have been shown to be WRONG:

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1059 on: May 11, 2016, 12:28:02 PM »
Do you really think that means anything to me? Well, think again, because your weakness is obvious, because you cannot prove fuck about the theory what you are defending. All you can do is flood this thread wit completely irrelevant crap which show only your stupidity. Your blind fait makes you a pitiful little creature, and that's all you are. If you would have a brains, you would try to find videos which really has something else but opinions and claims, like...wait a minute... like something even faintly similar than evidence? Why we never see that happen? Can you explain that? You see, truth about this matter isn't complicated at all, it is quite simple. Want to hear it? YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING. Try to understand that  ;D


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1060 on: May 11, 2016, 12:29:06 PM »
Remember this is man who claims to have read countless books on 9/11 but doesn't know how our defense system worked that day.

I have asked plenty of times how your defense system works against the passenger jets. No one has answer, so it has to mean that you guys don't know how. Why I should know? I know it isn't made for defending your country against the passenger jets, so fuck off  ;D

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1061 on: May 11, 2016, 12:30:08 PM »
You mean that asshat, which real architects didn't want to have anything to do with?  His first argument proves he is just an idiot: There was just normal office fires... Excuse me, but what is the normal office fire? How it is measured?? And when 400 meters tall building collapses on 250 meter tall building, it isn't significant at all? Only mentally ill fucking idiot would use arguments like that, while it is evident that it was quite significant. And please, what exactly even could be normal in that situation? Two of the world largest buildings have collapsed, one on top of the WTC 7, which was burning 8 hours before it collapse? Are you mad? Normal office fires...burning straight 8 hours through the building? Why it seem to me that this moron is underestimating the significance of the facts of the matter and just lying? Did I mention facts of the matter? Well, prove there were just normal office fires? In reality, no one have that knowledge, because no one see it, because collapses and dust form the twin towers. How can he say so? Truth doesn't mean anything to these assholes, so he claims it is so, knowing there isn't any evidence at all. And you believe, because of the blind faith. Quite simple, just like you are  ;D


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1062 on: May 11, 2016, 12:31:37 PM »
How To Destroy a 9/11 Truther: Coincidence!!!



Ozmo "the american" full of rubbish,

 "The legend on his own mind" Government dick rider's logic 101: Coincidence!!!  ::) who's been debunking CT's for 9 years!!!

That's what you have been doing this whole time, getting exposed.

Man up & shut da fuck up!!!


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Even more of foil hat bullshit? Is that really all you have? And again, just claims and shit? Way to go, if your main purpose is prove that you are complete moron.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1063 on: May 11, 2016, 12:34:16 PM »
Blacksmith Spoof Video



7th grade physics here in the USA. Do you get it now? Idiot!!!

Ropo, our retarded inbred from Finland.




It must be at least fifth time you link that bullshit video here, and no one waste time to watch it, because it just present of an opinion of the foil hat imbecile. Don't you know what the word evidence means? Look it up from dictionary..

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1064 on: May 11, 2016, 12:37:18 PM »
Just to make clear which hole is which, here are a few pics.  This pic is actually from the wall of the C ring, which is two rings inside from the exterior (streets run through the Pentagon and that's why the parking sign).



Another angle.  You can see in the background that it is in the ring:



I'd say this hole officially has (or has had) three competing explanations for it.  One says it was the final stop for the front-most cone of the plane, another says it is from loose landing gear, and a third says it is from an engine.

Until there is some evidence about the explosions in the WTC towers, who cares? You see, if the towers didn't fall because of the explosions, these holes has to be from the crash of the 757.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1065 on: May 11, 2016, 12:39:24 PM »
Don't forget to ask what ever happened to the engines and the black box?



Ozmo, Ropo the retard, on it, we need the official 9/11 commission report explanation on the dot, I can't find it.



Why don't you name the type of the missile which hit there? 12 feet long cruise missile, carrying 12 tons of kerosene?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1066 on: May 11, 2016, 12:41:55 PM »
It is public knowledge that each black box has a serial number that identifies the type of plane that it belongs to, I wonder why the official 9/11 commission report omitted such number and the content of the black box? National security? Many question not that many answers.

Ozmo, Ropo the retard on it!!!



What these black boxes would prove, while it is clear that there wasn't any kind of controlled demolition, because there isn't any evidence to prove there was?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1067 on: May 11, 2016, 12:46:39 PM »
I'd say you're referring to the mysterious "punch out" hole, which is the one from the C-Ring.

A barely-published fact is that the travel space between the exterior and it, included an area designed without walls (only building-support columns) -- so it is conceivable that a heavy part continued to move forward until it met the C-Ring wall.  In fact, that's where a wheel can be seen, as well as other landing-gear parts.

Yes, those guys need to be questioned about certain areas, while under oath.  No doubt whatsoever, it would cause them to be tripped-up at some point during or after that.  They would be in a world of trouble.

Landing gear parts, that I did not see. And yes it could have been thrusted like a projectile.

But what about Rumsfeld? Have you seen anything on the internet that may have implicated him with the whole 9/11? For example we know how corrupted the Bushes are and their legacy. Plenty of information out there.
Dick Cheney, Halliburton, enough said. But what about Rumsfeld, anybody? Useful idiot or did he made money with 9/11?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1068 on: May 11, 2016, 12:49:22 PM »
What these black boxes would prove, while it is clear that there wasn't any kind of controlled demolition, because there isn't any evidence to prove there was?

Ropo, you are an idiot. End of discusion. Now:



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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1069 on: May 11, 2016, 12:55:17 PM »
Good points, a clear path is emerging now, but? As for the whole inside the pentagon, we know that the front of the plane is like paper, and is the first thing to be crash like a tin can on contact, so the question is, was the whole we see in the pictures on the outer walls made by the engine which is not shown, or could be the smaller plane shot a missile before contact to secure maximum destruction to that wing of the pentagon where they hosted the team that was investigating the 2 trillion dollars that was not accounted which Donal Rumsfeld was on TV asking for?

Do you think Rumsfeld was in it in the 9/11 deception? Or was more of a Dick Cheney, Bush and Zionist Jews connection who did it?

To date nothing has been dug up on Rumsfeld, can't find any corruption going on with him, and he did get kick out of the Government before Bush Jr second term came to an end. Colin Powell did show to be an useful idiot as well when he gave the Presentation to the UN Security Council On Iraq's WMD Program.



And again, there isn't even the smallest piece of evidence that there were explosion, in fact on the contrary, because pictures prove that there wasn't. Outside the building isn't anything which has been inside the building, so there you have an another completely energyless explosion. All your explosions seem to have similar energy as a wet fart, no pressure wave, no flying debris, no any kind of visual effects which are vital to real explosions. In your imaginary world it seem to be quite common, but in the real life explosions throw things in every direction from the center of the explosion. You have to be blind to not see it: not even one chair, no papers, no pieces of walls on the lawn. Just little pieces of aluminum from the fuselage of the airplane.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1070 on: May 11, 2016, 12:58:10 PM »
I have asked plenty of times how your defense system works against the passenger jets. No one has answer, so it has to mean that you guys don't know how. Why I should know? I know it isn't made for defending your country against the passenger jets, so fuck off  ;D

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1071 on: May 11, 2016, 12:58:22 PM »
Ropo, you are an idiot. End of discusion. Now:




These are things YOU claimed and they have been shown to be WRONG:

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1072 on: May 11, 2016, 12:59:48 PM »
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These are things YOU claimed and they have been shown to be WRONG:

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11


this is not going away        :D

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1073 on: May 11, 2016, 01:02:37 PM »
I keep seeing this, can any one of you actually prove there are hundreds of cameras pointing at the Pentagon ???

Just think why there would have been? It is an office building, not the Fort Knox. Why all the cameras? There is no reason, but when these apes read that police was confiscated all the cameras from the area, foil hat heads start to spin. There is news every day how police has find criminals or evidence about their moves from the security recordings, so why it is like that? Because it is a basic police work everywhere in the world.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1074 on: May 11, 2016, 01:03:15 PM »
And again, there isn't even the smallest piece of evidence that there were explosion, in fact on the contrary, because pictures prove that there wasn't. Outside the building isn't anything which has been inside the building, so there you have an another completely energyless explosion. All your explosions seem to have similar energy as a wet fart, no pressure wave, no flying debris, no any kind of visual effects which are vital to real explosions. In your imaginary world it seem to be quite common, but in the real life explosions throw things in every direction from the center of the explosion. You have to be blind to not see it: not even one chair, no papers, no pieces of walls on the lawn. Just little pieces of aluminum from the fuselage of the airplane.

Goverment Dick rider's logic 101: Coincidence!!!