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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1125 on: May 12, 2016, 09:47:18 AM »
Federal government routinely hires internet trolls, shills to monitor chat rooms, disrupt article comment sections

Of course, the same type of online patrolling by the government is also happening in the U.S., particularly from the CIA and its infamous In-Q-Tel program. At a 2012 summit, former CIA director David Petraeus essentially admitted that the CIA has a covert online presence that it uses not only for data mining purposes but also to infiltrate online conversations for the purpose of protecting "national security" interests. Such interests, it turns out, include disrupting conversations that discuss topics like 9/11 truth, for instance, or U.S. involvement in giving weapons to Syrian rebels.

According to Occupy Corporatism, the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), which was recently exposed by American hero and whistleblower Edward Snowden for its illegal surveillance programs, has devised a training program that literally scouts out hackers from American colleges and universities and recruits them to work for the government. Among the many duties sought from those enrolled in the National Centers of Academic Excellence in the Cyber Operations Program are "collection, exploitation, and response" activities to take place in the online environment.

"These 'cyber operators' are trained to become an elite team of 'computer geniuses' that are experts in computer hacking, digital communications, cyber intelligence -- for the purpose of spying on Americans, as well as conducting interactive digital psy-ops with users of the internet," explains Occupy Corporatism about the program.

You can view the actual NSA announcement admitting this here:
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http://www.naturalnews.com/042093_internet_trolls_chat_rooms_federal_government.html

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1126 on: May 12, 2016, 09:47:51 AM »
Federal government routinely hires internet trolls, shills to monitor chat rooms, disrupt article comment sections

Of course, the same type of online patrolling by the government is also happening in the U.S., particularly from the CIA and its infamous In-Q-Tel program. At a 2012 summit, former CIA director David Petraeus essentially admitted that the CIA has a covert online presence that it uses not only for data mining purposes but also to infiltrate online conversations for the purpose of protecting "national security" interests. Such interests, it turns out, include disrupting conversations that discuss topics like 9/11 truth, for instance, or U.S. involvement in giving weapons to Syrian rebels.

According to Occupy Corporatism, the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), which was recently exposed by American hero and whistleblower Edward Snowden for its illegal surveillance programs, has devised a training program that literally scouts out hackers from American colleges and universities and recruits them to work for the government. Among the many duties sought from those enrolled in the National Centers of Academic Excellence in the Cyber Operations Program are "collection, exploitation, and response" activities to take place in the online environment.

"These 'cyber operators' are trained to become an elite team of 'computer geniuses' that are experts in computer hacking, digital communications, cyber intelligence -- for the purpose of spying on Americans, as well as conducting interactive digital psy-ops with users of the internet," explains Occupy Corporatism about the program.

You can view the actual NSA announcement admitting this here:
http://www.nsa.gov

http://www.naturalnews.com/042093_internet_trolls_chat_rooms_federal_government.html


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1127 on: May 12, 2016, 09:52:06 AM »
Will post more on this, but just as a preface I'll say that most people figure the "whitish object" in the video is what struck the building (as Straw Man and I did earlier in the thread).  But it appears that "whitish object" is something trailing the plane and being emitted by it, actually.

To give a better idea, here are stills released by the Pentagon.  What you see on the left sticking up above the box, is said to be the tail.  So when the FBI makes the claim about lack of a relevant image, they are referring to all things which have been unreleased.



Like I said,  it looks like a smaller plane lunched a missile before crushing into the pentagon for maximum assure destruction. The plane could have been a drone as well. Of course all this is just theory, it needs to be proven scientifically.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1128 on: May 12, 2016, 09:53:39 AM »
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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1129 on: May 12, 2016, 09:56:15 AM »
Will post more on this, but just as a preface I'll say that most people figure the "whitish object" in the video is what struck the building (as Straw Man and I did earlier in the thread).  But it appears that "whitish object" is something trailing the plane and being emitted by it, actually.

To give a better idea, here are stills released by the Pentagon.  What you see on the left sticking up above the box, is said to be the tail.  So when the FBI makes the claim about lack of a relevant image, they are referring to all things which have been unreleased.



There is so much more to this.  I have heard 80 cameras, 100+ cameras.  I don't think 80 cameras were aimed in such a way that they had that particular area  of the pentagon in their view.  Even if some did, we are dealing with a very fast moving plane on a very low resolution with a very slow frame rate.  That's probably the best one available.  The whitish object is said to be a smoke trail from the engines.

For those who believe a missile hit the pentagon.

Absence of a clear video of a plane hitting the pentagon doesn't prove a missile hit it.

However, absence of evidence (such as eye witnesses of a missile) suggesting a missile hit the pentagon and the plane and passengers were somehow disposed of, proves that a missile didn't hit the pentagon and the plane and passengers weren't disposed of.

Additionally, there is plenty of evidence, in the form of witnesses, records, photographs, after math accounts, debris, documented defense system failures etc.  that suggests a the plane did hit the pentagon.

This is why the whole missile thing is loony.  

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1130 on: May 12, 2016, 09:58:07 AM »
and flight 93 was definitely shot down?  what evidence is there?

Or is this just like the concrete in skyscrapers that any engineer would tell me about?

(interesting...   1 CT'er believes flight 93's crash site if fake and the other thinks it was definitely shot down)
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Both are the same you imbecile, the site was fake and debris of the plane expanded miles which proves the theory that it was shut down. Like always too stupid to realize it, and still in the OWNED!!! zone.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1131 on: May 12, 2016, 09:59:52 AM »
Like I said,  it looks like a smaller plane lunched a missile before crushing into the pentagon for maximum assure destruction. The plane could have been a drone as well. Of course all this is just theory, it needs to be proven scientifically.

You are an idiot.  You got that from that picture?  Is that your expert opinion?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA   Get out of your moms basement and go outside for while...

But then again, in addition to getting many other things wrong, here are 3 you keep running away from:

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11


so go ahead, find more pics to post, but these remain and aren't going away.   :)

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1132 on: May 12, 2016, 10:02:13 AM »
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Both are the same you imbecile, the site was fake and debris of the plane expanded miles which proves the theory that it was shut down. Like always too stupid to realize it, and still in the OWNED!!! zone.

Keep at it moron, owning you, my business. ;D

paranoid much?

Feeling like you are not in control?

Get out of your mom's basement, stop eating captian crunch, and breath some fresh air.  Walk around, meet people.  Avoid CT discussions, you won't ,make normal friends that way.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1133 on: May 12, 2016, 10:04:54 AM »
There is so much more to this.  I have heard 80 cameras, 100+ cameras.  I don't think 80 cameras were aimed in such a way that they had that particular area  of the pentagon in their view.  Even if some did, we are dealing with a very fast moving plane on a very low resolution with a very slow frame rate.  That's probably the best one available.  The whitish object is said to be a smoke trail from the engines.

For those who believe a missile hit the pentagon.

Absence of a clear video of a plane hitting the pentagon doesn't prove a missile hit it.

However, absence of evidence (such as eye witnesses of a missile) suggesting a missile hit the pentagon and the plane and passengers were somehow disposed of, proves that a missile didn't hit the pentagon and the plane and passengers weren't disposed of.

Additionally, there is plenty of evidence, in the form of witnesses, records, photographs, after math accounts, debris, documented defense system failures etc.  that suggests a the plane did hit the pentagon.

This is why the whole missile thing is loony.  

Maybe both? A smaller plane shot a missile right before it hit the pentagon, assuring maximum destruction.

You heard about the cameras? Did you not research 9/11 for 9 years? You getting exposed, just too easy. Keep at it.

You stop with the hypocrisy, I may just let up a little, so you know.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1134 on: May 12, 2016, 10:05:53 AM »
People have a strong inclination to want to trust others, as they know they should be able to do.  It frees up the mind.

If you look at societies where people must regularly face one another, you'll find that individuals are much more careful against screwing-over the others.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1135 on: May 12, 2016, 10:09:07 AM »
You are an idiot.  You got that from that picture?  Is that your expert opinion?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA   Get out of your moms basement and go outside for while...

But then again, in addition to getting many other things wrong, here are 3 you keep running away from:

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies art colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11


so go ahead, find more pics to post, but these remain and aren't going away.   :)

I'm the expert? No, just presenting ideas, this is a forum after all, but you are who's a Government dick riders shill getting exposed left and right. But keep at it.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1136 on: May 12, 2016, 10:11:49 AM »
There is so much more to this.  I have heard 80 cameras, 100+ cameras.  I don't think 80 cameras were aimed in such a way that they had that particular area  of the pentagon in their view.  Even if some did, we are dealing with a very fast moving plane on a very low resolution with a very slow frame rate.  That's probably the best one available.  The whitish object is said to be a smoke trail from the engines.

For those who believe a missile hit the pentagon.

Absence of a clear video of a plane hitting the pentagon doesn't prove a missile hit it.

However, absence of evidence (such as eye witnesses of a missile) suggesting a missile hit the pentagon and the plane and passengers were somehow disposed of, proves that a missile didn't hit the pentagon and the plane and passengers weren't disposed of.

Additionally, there is plenty of evidence, in the form of witnesses, records, photographs, after math accounts, debris, documented defense system failures etc.  that suggests a the plane did hit the pentagon.

This is why the whole missile thing is loony.  

Yes, there is much much more to this.

I too refuse to believe there were all those cameras pointed at the action.  I do question whether various images of the sky are being protected, though.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1137 on: May 12, 2016, 10:13:22 AM »
paranoid much?

Feeling like you are not in control?

Get out of your mom's basement, stop eating captian crunch, and breath some fresh air.  Walk around, meet people.  Avoid CT discussions, you won't ,make normal friends that way.

Stop trolling this thread and I will, got a deal?

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1138 on: May 12, 2016, 10:14:37 AM »
Maybe both? A smaller plane shot a missile right before it hit the pentagon, assuring maximum destruction.

You heard about the cameras? Did you not research 9/11 for 9 years? You getting exposed, just too easy. Keep at it.

You stop with the hypocrisy, I may just let up a little, so you know.

Owning you, my bussiness.  ;D

I will do this just one more time, because i am now starting to feel sorry for you.

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Both are the same you imbecile, the site was fake and debris of the plane expanded miles which proves the theory that it was shut down. Like always too stupid to realize it, and still in the OWNED!!! zone.

Keep at it moron, owning you, my business. ;D

CT'er #1 (Colossus_1986) says:

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No planes at pentagon and Shanksville.

Meaning he doesn't think a plane was shot down at shanksville because there was no plane.

CT'er #2 (The brink) say:

Investigation done by who lol.

And flight 93 was definitely and airplane and definitely shot down by fighter jets there were body parts strewn all over the ground for miles before the plane impact.

And didn't Donald rumfsfeld (sp) slip that out by accident a while back...?

that's why i said:

(interesting...   1 CT'er believes flight 93's crash site if fake and the other thinks it was definitely shot down)

Now i can't make it more simple for you.  I could draw pictures, but that might be too much for you.

I could add that to the list of you failure along with C-130 thing when you obviously didn't and check other pictures, namely the top of the building.

But that's who you are.

a dumbass.  

alright I am tire of you now, so will just add those to your failure list.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1139 on: May 12, 2016, 10:18:22 AM »
Stop trolling this thread and I will, got a deal?

Nothing is over until you deal with your failures.  Like i said, i don't really care what you do.  You are one of the most stupid people i have ever dealt with regarding CT's.  Your maturity level is that of a low self esteem 15 year old boy barricaded in his mom's basement.

Now i have added 2 more, but just address these 3 and we can move on.

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies at colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11

and i will be more than willing to keep it civil.  ;)


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1140 on: May 12, 2016, 10:22:28 AM »
Crash site, imbecile, that's what he meant, no plane at crash site, again reading and comprehension, not up to par, making bullshit lies, typical Government dick rider shill,

Where are the pictures of the top of the roof of the C-130?

You getting exposed, too easy.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1141 on: May 12, 2016, 10:31:20 AM »
Yes, there is much much more to this.

I too refuse to believe there were all those cameras pointed at the action.  I do question whether various images of the sky are being protected, though.
Maybe.  That's one of the reasons why I think another investigation is warranted.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1142 on: May 12, 2016, 10:35:42 AM »
Crash site, imbecile, that's what he meant, no plane at crash site, again reading and comprehension, not up to par, making bullshit lies, typical Government dick rider shill,

Where are the pictures of the top of the roof of the C-130?

You getting exposed, too easy.

Owning you, my business. ;D


Nothing is over until you deal with your failures.  Like i said, i don't really care what you do.  You are one of the most stupid people i have ever dealt with regarding CT's.  Your maturity level is that of a low self esteem 15 year old boy barricaded in his mom's basement.

Now i have added 2 more, but just address these 3 and we can move on.

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies at colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11

and i will be more than willing to keep it civil.  




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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1143 on: May 12, 2016, 10:40:04 AM »
Yeah, you'll find this is very common.  Just about everyone, everywhere, has missed the mark.  The false idea of the "whitish object" being the thing which struck, is the one to become the norm.  

All these sites and ideas about the subject, then, are based around that.


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1144 on: May 12, 2016, 10:42:28 AM »
The plane being a line, visually, it blends in with the trees in the background.

Like I said, one of the most interesting threads ever.  For me, at least.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1145 on: May 12, 2016, 10:46:05 AM »
and flight 93 was definitely shot down?  what evidence is there?

Or is this just like the concrete in skyscrapers that any engineer would tell me about?

(interesting...   1 CT'er believes flight 93's crash site if fake and the other thinks it was definitely shot down)

Keeping it civil, eh? With statements like these, keep your hypocrisy to yourself.

You stop trolling this thread, and then I will keep it civil.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1146 on: May 12, 2016, 10:51:50 AM »
I'll get into that plane image a little more, coming up.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1147 on: May 12, 2016, 10:59:14 AM »
Yeah, you'll find this is very common.  Just about everyone, everywhere, has missed the mark.  The false idea of the "whitish object" being the thing which struck, is the one to become the norm.  

All these sites and ideas about the subject, then, are based around that.



Do you mind explaining this a little better? Can't grasp what you mean, and  the line that blends with the trees.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1148 on: May 12, 2016, 10:59:58 AM »
Keeping it civil, eh? With statements like these, keep your hypocrisy to yourself.

You stop trolling this thread, and then I will keep it civil.

Just remember, owning you, my bussiness. ;D

Nothing is over until you deal with your failures.  Like i said, i don't really care what you do.  You are one of the most stupid people i have ever dealt with regarding CT's.  Your maturity level is that of a low self esteem 15 year old boy barricaded in his mom's basement.

Now i have added 2 more, but just address these 3 and we can move on.

Fact:  Bush wasn't talking about WTC's being pre-wired with explosives
Fact:  it wasn't 19 goat shephards
Fact:  There are discussions and studies at colleges of why the WTCs failed on 9/11

and i will be more than willing to keep it civil. 

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1149 on: May 12, 2016, 11:03:26 AM »
Do you mind explaining this a little better? Can't grasp what you mean, and  the line that blends with the trees.

Look above and to the left, at what appears to be attached to the subject of that pic.