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« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2006, 12:08:43 AM »

I won't fall for it again...at least not now!

If you're sayin Bill Pearl was natural then your nuts.
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« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2006, 12:10:46 AM »

Steve reeves is natural period. if you don't think that he is you must have some shitty ass genetics..... 6'1 215 is easily attainable for someone with the genetics he poss ed. hell he could have went further if he wanted to.

what do John McEnroe weigh when he admitted to using steroids? What the hell does size and weight have to do with someone using steroids...Reeves ate like a bird...How heavy to you think your going to get eating 2000 cals a day?
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« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2006, 12:12:17 AM »

what do John McEnroe weigh when he admitted to using steroids? What the hell does size and weight have to do with someone using steroids...Reeves ate like a bird...How heavy to you think your going to get eating 2000 cals a day?

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« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2006, 12:13:25 AM »

what do John McEnroe weigh when he admitted to using steroids? What the hell does size and weight have to do with someone using steroids...Reeves ate like a bird...How heavy to you think your going to get eating 2000 cals a day?

looking at his pictures, Reeves does not have that "chemically enhanced" look at all. Looks can be wrong though...
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« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2006, 12:26:37 AM »

Bill Pearl started taking steroids around 1956. He was one of the first men in America to experiment with anabolic steroids. I'm pretty sure he admitted this in one of his books.
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« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2006, 12:54:12 AM »

back then it wasn't some moral issue that it seems to be today...Of course they used them...They way you "all natty" fools run the nearest GNC looking for the next big supplement...Your fooling yourself about steroids and you buy right into the propaganda the governments are throwing at you

Actually, lots of people were opposed to steroid use in the old days, and for the same reasons people oppose them now. You're fooling yourself if you think pumping artificial hormones into your body accomplishes anything of value in the long run. I have far more respect for someone who builds REAL muscle through HARD TRAINING than some steroid clown who trains a few months out of the year. Steroids have removed the athleticism from bodybuilding and turned it into a pharmaceutical freak show. Nobody cares about training anymore. It's all about DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS.
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« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2006, 01:02:18 AM »

Drugs used unlike that of Pros is totally acceptable who gives a fuck what took Sergio Olivia he was the MYTH.
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« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2006, 02:11:54 AM »

Hey man, the black on the top doesn't even count...we can barely even see him! AND he's black...blacks have different genes than us whities... we'll have to have two categories one for natural whites...another for natural blacks,just so it's fair.

I guess that explains why the greatest bodybuilder in history (Arnold) is white, why one of the most dominant bodybuilders in the modern era (Yates) is white, why the runner up at the last several Olympias (Cutler) is white, why two of the biggest competitive bodybuilders in the world (Gunter and Ruhl) are white. 
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« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2006, 02:13:53 AM »

I read an interview of with him in MuscleMag and he denies ever even touching a drug in his life.

You actually believed it?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2006, 02:25:01 AM »

NONE of those people who's pictures have been posted were natural.

Even guys like Steve Reeves likely used in the 50's and 60's when Steroids were very common. Notice how during the 40's and early 50's steve reeves remained about the same size but then in the mid 50's he got massive!
Likely reeves was using oral's during the mid 50's to mid 60's. Remember The first steroids had been invented during the early 40's! So it isn't like they didn't exist!

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« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2006, 02:42:18 AM »

Yep, steroids have been around for so long. Longer than people are willing to accept

From World Anabolic Review by P. Grunding and M. Bachmann:

"Dianabol is an oral anabolic which was developed in 1956 by the American Dr. John Ziegler in collaboration with Ciba-Geigy Company. In the US it was introduced in the market in 1960 and within a short time it was available in many countries."

Even earlier...From Anabolics by William Llewellin:

"The first solid scientific experiments in this erea, wich eventually led to the discovery and replication of testosterone (and related androgens), where undertaken int the 1800's. During this  century a number of animal experiments where published most of which involved the removal and/or implantation of testicular material from/in a subject. By the turn of the century, scientists were able to produce the first experimental androgen injection. Chemists finally synthesized the structure of testosterone in the mid 1930's, sparking a new wave of interest in this hormone."

If steroids were available in that period, then my conclusion is that they were used in that period. Heck they didnt know much of any side affects..they probaly took it as a dietary supplement.
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« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2006, 02:59:02 AM »

NONE of those people who's pictures have been posted were natural.

Even guys like Steve Reeves likely used in the 50's and 60's when Steroids were very common. Notice how during the 40's and early 50's steve reeves remained about the same size but then in the mid 50's he got massive!
Likely reeves was using oral's during the mid 50's to mid 60's. Remember The first steroids had been invented during the early 40's! So it isn't like they didn't exist!



Reeves retired in 1950 , 6 years before the first oral steroid was produced ( Dianabol ) by Ciba labs and Dr John Ziegler , and his weight at while competing was 215lbs and he remained that for years , after he retired to pursue an acting career , the directors where always asking him to drop weight , so your assesment that he got huge is backwards , durring the mid 50s and early 60s he actually got smaller , when asked directly if he ever took steroids Reeves said outright no , he never even heard of them until the mid 60s , and steroids didn't make their way into the competitive bodybuilding scene until around 1960 and Bill Pearl did admit in Muscle & Fitness he used Dinabol and was one of the first bodybuilders to do so.
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« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2006, 03:04:08 AM »

Reeves retired in 1950 , 6 years before the first oral steroid was produced ( Dianabol ) by Ciba labs and Dr John Ziegler , and his weight at while competing was 215lbs and he remained that for years , after he retired to pursue an acting career , the directors where always asking him to drop weight , so your assesment that he got huge is backwards , durring the mid 50s and early 60s he actually got smaller , when asked directly if he ever took steroids Reeves said outright no , he never even heard of them until the mid 60s , and steroids didn't make their way into the competitive bodybuilding scene until around 1960 and Bill Pearl did admit in Muscle & Fitness he used Dinabol and was one of the first bodybuilders to do so.


Do you have pictures of Reeves from the 40's 50's and then the 60's so we can judge how his size changed? I'm pretty sure he was his largest in the mid 60's.
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« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2006, 03:20:30 AM »

Reeves was strong for a natural too!
damn Reeves was a strong sob. thats 160 pounds! Shocked
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« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2006, 04:06:25 AM »

Dont forget this pre-contest pic of Vince caught working in his garden..

Monster Weed Puller!


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« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2006, 04:17:03 AM »

Dont forget this pre-contest pic of Vince caught working in his garden..

Monster Weed Puller!

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« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2006, 05:24:30 AM »

Not bad for a natty! How much does he weight here, 150?

That pic was taken in Jimmy Caruso's gym ( Studio Caruso ) in Montreal, Canada. I trained there many time s ( It's where Roy Callendar trained for years.)

I do not think all of those plates were real, I place money on it.

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« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2006, 06:08:48 AM »

Actually, lots of people were opposed to steroid use in the old days, and for the same reasons people oppose them now. You're fooling yourself if you think pumping artificial hormones into your body accomplishes anything of value in the long run. I have far more respect for someone who builds REAL muscle through HARD TRAINING than some steroid clown who trains a few months out of the year. Steroids have removed the athleticism from bodybuilding and turned it into a pharmaceutical freak show. Nobody cares about training anymore. It's all about DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS.
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« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2006, 07:55:33 AM »

Actually, lots of people were opposed to steroid use in the old days, and for the same reasons people oppose them now. You're fooling yourself if you think pumping artificial hormones into your body accomplishes anything of value in the long run.

Using steroids to gain muscle mass accomplishes the same thing as training naturally to do it...Gaining muscle mass. Roll Eyes

I have far more respect for someone who builds REAL muscle through HARD TRAINING than some steroid clown who trains a few months out of the year. Steroids have removed the athleticism from bodybuilding and turned it into a pharmaceutical freak show. Nobody cares about training anymore. It's all about DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS.

1.You don't know shit about steroids do you? Anabolic steroids increase protein synthesis which builds muscle mass. That IS REAL MUSCLE MASS that is being built...What..It's fake? HAHA!

2.If you think modern pro bodybuilding is only about drugs you're deluding yourself. If steroids were all it took to become Pro..There would be ALOT more pro's out there. Do you realize how many millions of people use anabolic steroids in the world..Yet there are only a few hundred active pro's..why? The fact is...Simply using AAS doesn't make you a bodybuilder. You have to WORK HARD at it even with AAS. Pro bodybuilders train as hard as they possibly can,Have good eating habits and they also use steroids.

However keep thinking that you can pop a few pills and become a PRO...Whatever helps you sleep! Roll Eyes

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« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2006, 08:27:08 AM »



Wow! I had never seen this photo before. If this is what's obtainable,  remaining totally drug free (as in AAS), I am impressed. I have  DVD's of Reeves in his Hercules movies. Incredible build and very athletic quality. Honestly, what more could you want in physique development?

18+" arms, 18+" calves, 50+" chest and small waist. No wonder he was (and is) a legend!
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« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2006, 08:58:01 AM »

His arms are probably about 17 inches there..18 tops.
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« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2006, 09:49:38 AM »

Using steroids to gain muscle mass accomplishes the same thing as training naturally to do it...Gaining muscle mass. Roll Eyes

1.You don't know shit about steroids do you? Anabolic steroids increase protein synthesis which builds muscle mass. That IS REAL MUSCLE MASS that is being built...What..It's fake? HAHA!

2.If you think modern pro bodybuilding is only about drugs you're deluding yourself. If steroids were all it took to become Pro..There would be ALOT more pro's out there. Do you realize how many millions of people use anabolic steroids in the world..Yet there are only a few hundred active pro's..why? The fact is...Simply using AAS doesn't make you a bodybuilder. You have to WORK HARD at it even with AAS. Pro bodybuilders train as hard as they possibly can,Have good eating habits and they also use steroids.

However keep thinking that you can pop a few pills and become a PRO...Whatever helps you sleep! Roll Eyes



What happens when you stop using steroids? You become small and strong like a girl! Those that lift naturally get to keep the muscle gains for far longer than those who juice. Also without all the health risks involved. I will prove to yoiu how far a natural physique can go!
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« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2006, 10:04:37 AM »

What happens when you stop using steroids? You become small and strong like a girl! Those that lift naturally get to keep the muscle gains for far longer than those who juice. Also without all the health risks involved. I will prove to yoiu how far a natural physique can go!


You don't know anything about the endocrine system do you?

When you are using steroids it's true that your natural testosterone goes down..However any intelligent steroid user knows that they should go on a "Post cycle Therapy" at the end of their cycle to bring their natural testosterone levels back up to normal so as they keep as much mass as possible...Usually they only loose about 15% of what they have gained...Three steps foward one step back basically.

Secondly...When your natural testosterone goes down you'll loose muscle regardless. Natural Bodybuilders natural testosterone doesn't stay high any longer than a bodybuilder who uses steroids. When you get old..You stop producing as much testosterone..When you stop producing as much Test you loose muscle..That will happen no matter what. No studies show steroid users to be unable to produce testosterone later in life..As a matter of a fact Arnold in his late 50's hasn't used steroids for years yet is much more muscular than your average 56 year old.

Thirdly....If you wanted you could continue using Steroids as you grow older and get into your 50's and 60's. Plenty of people do this...
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« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2006, 10:09:43 AM »

Explain to me why so many pos have to use testosterone therapy for life? How come when pros stop using they look average?
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