This vegan craze needs to stop

[liberalismo]

Nothing wrong with eating meat.  It's the goofballs who go to the extreme trying to vilify it that annoy me.  Keep junk foods and sugars to a minimum.  Everything in moderation.

Libtardism working overtime in this thread.

Eehh...Mmm..

Not Really. I'd take a gander at the massive amount of scientific research.

[YngiweRhoads]

Depends what kind of meat. Your body does not need red meat. There is ample evidence that HIGH consumption of red meat is associated with a range of physical diseases. Of course, eating red meat 1x per week probably will not do much harm, but Americans eat too much of it.  You can easily get all the nutrients you need from lean chicken, turkey, fish, and egg whites. I have completely cut out red meat from my diet. If I could get my nutrients from other food, and avoid any chance of increasing diseases, why continue to eat red meat?  I guess the only answer is: because it taste good and I like it. So be it.

I did the same regarding red meat. I eat it sparingly. I also include many vegan meals in my diet.

[Zillotch]

'veganism'….. 

Veganism

 

[SF1900]

I did the same regarding red meat. I eat it sparingly. I also include many vegan meals in my diet.

Same here. I have definitely included more vegan options in my diet. I don't feel the need to eat meat 3x per day. Crazy. There are some days where I won't even meat. I have not eaten meat in the last 4 days. I have mainly eaten whole grains breads and pastas, vegetables, fruit, legumes, etc.

[residue]

My parents live in NJ and their chicken breast (not on sale) is 1.99/lb 

Plus, I don't really have time to hunt down sales in different stores at the moment. I do wanna find a good butcher I can buy from in bulk, just haven't looked yet... Been working weekdays AND weekends for the past couple years, as well as school haha. So time is tight.

i live in nyc, my chicken breast(not on sale) is 1.29 a lb trimmed and skinned.

[WannaBePro]

i live in nyc, my chicken breast(not on sale) is 1.29 a lb trimmed and skinned.

Yeah trimmed and skinned, too. We get screwed with prices up here in terms of gas and food.
I need to find a job in the states and move already lol.

[residue]

I did the same regarding red meat. I eat it sparingly. I also include many vegan meals in my diet.

Same here, i'm not american so i didn't grow up eating the shit food they do. i eat mainly pescetarian(fish\eggs) but i'll have chicken or pork if i eat out. Americans seem to be so opposed to eating fish unless you're in new England or the pacific northwest

[HTexan]

[a_pupil]

flexitarian for the win. mostly vegetarian with a lot of fruit. Meat and dairy eaten in moderation.

I had stomach issues for a long period of time. Bloating and pain in the abdomen.

It was cured by switching to fruit, bcaas and a few cups of milk from morning until dinner time. then dinner time I eat whatever I want if not cutting.

[El Diablo Blanco]

That whore in the second vid is fine as fuck.  Homos in this thread arguing about dairy when that bitch has some nice titonas that I'd want to milk

[goku]

Avoiding red meat improves inflammation:

http://www.pcrm.org/health/medNews/avoiding-redmeat-improves-inflammation


Vegetarian diet can reduce risk of metabolic syndrome and insulin resistance and provide
metabolic and cardiovascular protective effects: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23951247


Vegans and vegetarians enjoy greater longevity and lower risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes,hypertension, cancers, all-cause mortality, and metabolic syndrome:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26148917

Higher consumption of fruits and vegetables can protect against cerebrovascular diseases:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19646291

Higher consumption of fruits and vegetables leads to modest reduction in development of major
chronic diseases: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15523086

Higher consumption of fruits and vegetables protects against heart disease:
 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11412050

Vegetarians have lower risk of ischemic heart disease: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/97/3/597.full.pdf

Vegans and vegetarians have lower blood pressure and prevalence of hypertension:
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12372158

Beneficial association between vegetarian diet and cardiovascular risk factors:
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25343719

African-American vegans have better cardiovascular disease risk factors than lacto-ovovegetarians:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9791838

Plant-based diets can prevent the development of several chronic age-related diseases:
http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1741-7015-8-54.pdf

 

Kaiser Permanente says that physicians should recommend plant-based diets to all patients:

http://www.thepermanentejournal.org/issues/2013/spring/5117-nutrition.html,
http://nutritionfacts.org/2015/12/15/making-plant-based-diets-the-new-normal/

 
High cholesterol levels increase joint inflammation: http://www.pcrm.org/health/medNews/
cholesterol-levels-increase-joint-inflammation

Good God you need a healthy dose of common sense.

[HTexan]

Good God you need a healthy dose of common sense.

I'm not a vegan, but, besides the lack of a decent protein source and all other variables being equal, do you believe a person drinking milk and eating red meat is healthier then a person that doesn't?

[goku]

I'm not a vegan, but, besides the lack of a decent protein source and all other variables being equal, do you believe a person drinking milk and eating red meat is healthier then a person that doesn't?

Yes, moderation.

[Andy Griffin]

The attention whores will find something else to pat themselves on the back for sooner or later.

Oldie but goodie:  A vegan, a Crossfitter, and an atheist walk into a bar.  I know this because they all told everyone within two minutes.

[SF1900]

I just made this  NO meat!

[K-1]

[PJim]

Did you know that 100 percent of vegans fucking die?

[FREAKgeek]

[WalterWhite]

The attention whores will find something else to pat themselves on the back for sooner or later.

Oldie but goodie:  A vegan, a Crossfitter, and an atheist walk into a bar.  I know this because they all told everyone within two minutes.

The women I know who tout it are fat. One is always telling me abut going to dairy queen for frozen drinks.

[Primemuscle]

Why is what diet someone chooses to follow, veganism, vegetarianism, being a total carnivore or just your regular "meat and potatoes" kind of person matters to anyone else. Nothing needs to stop except criticizing people for their chosen diet.

[FREAKgeek]

Why is what diet someone chooses to follow, veganism, vegetarianism, being a total carnivore or just your regular "meat and potatoes" kind of person matters to anyone else. Nothing needs to stop except criticizing people for their chosen diet.

Some people argue for the ethics, ie whether it is humane or not in today's modern society or for some made up religious reasons, etc.

I was arguing with a vegan a while back saying it's OK to eat animals for sustenance. By the end of it, I was labeled more fit to rot in hell than the worst of the worst. Well, plants don't want to be eaten either, some have evolved for defensive mechanisms just for such threats. In a perfect universe, we wouldn't need to consume other living things to carry on. We were placed here without a real choice, so we should all get over it.

[NelsonMuntz]

My parents live in NJ and their chicken breast (not on sale) is 1.99/lb 

Plus, I don't really have time to hunt down sales in different stores at the moment. I do wanna find a good butcher I can buy from in bulk, just haven't looked yet... Been working weekdays AND weekends for the past couple years, as well as school haha. So time is tight.

you in toronto?

[NelsonMuntz]

Avoiding red meat improves inflammation:

http://www.pcrm.org/health/medNews/avoiding-redmeat-improves-inflammation


Vegetarian diet can reduce risk of metabolic syndrome and insulin resistance and provide
metabolic and cardiovascular protective effects: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23951247


Vegans and vegetarians enjoy greater longevity and lower risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes,hypertension, cancers, all-cause mortality, and metabolic syndrome:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26148917

Higher consumption of fruits and vegetables can protect against cerebrovascular diseases:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19646291

Higher consumption of fruits and vegetables leads to modest reduction in development of major
chronic diseases: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15523086

Higher consumption of fruits and vegetables protects against heart disease:
 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11412050

Vegetarians have lower risk of ischemic heart disease: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/97/3/597.full.pdf

Vegans and vegetarians have lower blood pressure and prevalence of hypertension:
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12372158

Beneficial association between vegetarian diet and cardiovascular risk factors:
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25343719

African-American vegans have better cardiovascular disease risk factors than lacto-ovovegetarians:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9791838

Plant-based diets can prevent the development of several chronic age-related diseases:
http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1741-7015-8-54.pdf

 

Kaiser Permanente says that physicians should recommend plant-based diets to all patients:

http://www.thepermanentejournal.org/issues/2013/spring/5117-nutrition.html,
http://nutritionfacts.org/2015/12/15/making-plant-based-diets-the-new-normal/

 
High cholesterol levels increase joint inflammation: http://www.pcrm.org/health/medNews/
cholesterol-levels-increase-joint-inflammation

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[WannaBePro]

you in toronto?

Yessir

[The Ugly]

No. Dairy is not any more ethical. Milk cows are treated like crap, their babies are taken from them and either sold for veal or beef later on. Dairy cows are grinded up for beef once they can't produce milk...

Eggs are also horrible because of the conditions chickens are in.

Unless you have backyard chickens, you have no way to know where the eggs come from.

It's ok, they're cool with it. No feelings and all.