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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #150 on: October 10, 2016, 04:56:52 AM »
Your long winded, tiresome posts are almost as boring as Hillary who is absolutely unlistenable. There's a reason no one shows up at her events.

And yes, she got destroyed in the debate.

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #151 on: October 10, 2016, 04:59:03 AM »
Your long winded, tiresome posts are almost as boring as Hillary who is absolutely unlistenable. There's a reason no one shows up at her events.

And yes, she got destroyed in the debate.

So did Bay's Hillary hopes.

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #152 on: October 10, 2016, 05:00:11 AM »
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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #153 on: October 10, 2016, 08:13:47 AM »
Pence would destroy Hilary in a 1 on 1 matchup.  Adding Carly to the vp slot mends a lot of fences. 

Trump has so many negatives.  He's a mess. Just hand it to pence and give him a chance against Hilary. It's not binary. There's still time for pence to beat Hilary.

How would this work? Voting has already begun. It is too late to remove Trump from the ballot. Many folks will vote for him anyway. The republican party waited too long to see the sorry truth about Trump.

There were moments when I felt sorry for Trump during last night's clown show. He was so rattled that he came off looking like an angry child throwing a tantrum because he didn't get his way. By comparison, Hillary never once lost her composure.

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #154 on: October 10, 2016, 08:16:01 AM »
How would this work? Voting has already begun. It is too late to remove Trump from the ballot. Many folks will vote for him anyway. The republican party waited too long to see the sorry truth about Trump.

There were moments when I felt sorry for Trump during last night's clown show. He was so rattled that he came off looking like an angry child throwing a tantrum because he didn't get his way. By comparison, Hillary never once lost her composure.

Trump would agree to take the oath in Jan, have an iced tea and wave to the crowd for ten minutes, then immediately resign and let Pence be president.  He's publicly vow it now, and his name on every ballot would mean Pence - and he'd keep his own supporters + the GOP/RNC.

And this would defeat Hillary - easily.

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #155 on: October 10, 2016, 08:21:15 AM »
Your long winded, tiresome posts are almost as boring as Hillary who is absolutely unlistenable. There's a reason no one shows up at her events.

And yes, she got destroyed in the debate.

Trump thanks you for the support. He sure needs it right now. You are just one of very few people who has the guts to suggest Trump "distroyed" Clinton last night. Even Trump knows he fucked it up. I wouldn't surprise me if he skipped the last debate, ten days from now.

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #156 on: October 10, 2016, 08:44:17 AM »
And this would defeat Hillary - easily.

No, it would not.  There is a reason Pence took the VP job rather than trying to keep the governorship Indiana.  He had no chance of winning reelection.  His tenure as governor has been a series of bumbling mistakes.

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #157 on: October 10, 2016, 08:47:11 AM »
No, it would not.  There is a reason Pence took the VP job rather than trying to keep the governorship Indiana.  He had no chance of winning reelection.  His tenure as governor has been a series of bumbling mistakes.

but the anti-hillary sentiment is SO high.  it's a change election, but trump is unacceptable change.

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #158 on: October 10, 2016, 09:00:19 AM »
but the anti-hillary sentiment is SO high.  it's a change election, but trump is unacceptable change.

The anti-Hillary sentiment is not high throughout the country.  The electoral college would still favor Clinton.  Some swing states might be closer, but she would still be favored to win.

Trump chose Pence for a reason (besides that no one else reputable would take the job), and that was to get the evangelicals to back him.  But there is no way an extreme evangelical would win over moderates, especially moderate women.

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #159 on: October 10, 2016, 09:09:21 AM »
No, it would not.  There is a reason Pence took the VP job rather than trying to keep the governorship Indiana.  He had no chance of winning reelection.  His tenure as governor has been a series of bumbling mistakes.

LOL - only a pansie fagget would support a pos like hillcunt - grow a sack 

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #160 on: October 10, 2016, 09:56:43 AM »
I actually asked you a couple of questions, but this is the one I am most interested in knowing your answer to: Aside from you searching for validation via the internet, what personal experience do you have with regards to adultery and the military?

I personally know of several service members who have been investigated for and/or punished for adultery, but what difference does that make?  I live on an island that probably has the highest concentration of service members in the country. 

You still don't know what the heck you're talking about. 

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #161 on: October 10, 2016, 02:22:46 PM »
Speaker Ryan says he will not defend or campaign for Trump
By Kelsey Snell, Juliet Eilperin and Mike DeBonis

A decision Monday by House Speaker Paul D. Ryan to not campaign with or defend Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump through the November election sparked a public feud with his party’s standard-bearer within a matter of hours, suggesting that a widening split within the GOP could reverberate long after the presidential race is decided.

Ryan’s move — and a blunt assessment of the race that he and other congressional leaders delivered during a conference call with House GOP lawmakers Monday morning — underscored the perilous choice Republican officials now face in the wake of Friday’s release of a 2005 videotape in which Trump made lewd comments about women:

They can remain in line with their nominee, which would please their base but could alienate swing voters critical to maintaining their hold on Congress. Or they could renounce Trump and offend Republicans eager for a direct confrontation with Hillary Clinton and her husband.

For his part, the speaker — who canceled an appearance with Trump after the videotape surfaced Friday — did neither. He won’t publicly campaign with Trump, but he also did not rescind his endorsement of his party’s controversial nominee or back away from his pledge to vote for him.

One GOP lawmaker said Ryan (R-Wis.) was confronted on the call by at least a half-dozen members from districts ranging from California to Ohio who bristled at any attempt to distance the party from Trump.

“He got huge pushback like I’ve never seen before from members from across the country just saying that was the wrong move — and even if it cost them the House,” said one lawmaker on the call who spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly describe the private discussion.

Late in the call, after several members had criticized GOP leaders, Ryan got back on the line to assure them that he was not planning to rescind his endorsement. But that appeared to do little to assure the pro-Trump contingent.

“A number of people said: You can’t have it both ways. You’ve either got to get out and be wholly supportive . . . or it really doesn’t matter,” the GOP lawmaker said.

The lawmaker, who represents a safe Republican district where Trump is popular, told The Washington Post that he had heard much the same from his own constituents: “They’re just so fed up with Washington, D.C., that all the rest of this stuff is a side point. . . . They’re willing to overlook a whole lot to try to take back the country.”

But Rep. Charlie Dent — a moderate who does not support Trump — also spoke up on the call, saying, “Our nominee should step aside, though I realize it is probably logistically impractical at this moment.”

Dent said he warned his fellow Republicans: “Does anyone on the call not think there are worse revelations to come? I would be shocked if there were not more revelations, and what’s our plan when the next one hits?”

Trump lashed out at Ryan on Monday, tweeting that the speaker “should spend more time on balancing the budget, jobs and illegal immigration and not waste his time on fighting Republican nominee.” Within a matter of minutes, more than 6,300 people had favorited the tweet.

The widening chasm between GOP establishment leaders and Trump, who is now emboldened given his assertive debate performance Sunday night, has moved the party into uncharted territory in the final weeks of an already volatile and unpredictable presidential contest. Trump’s running mate, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, and his campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, took to the airwaves Monday to make it clear that Trump intends to remain on the offensive for the duration of the campaign. And Trump’s senior communications adviser, Jason Miller, tweeted that “nothing’s changed” after the congressional call, because his candidate has always been a Washington outsider.

And in an interview Monday, former House speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), a close ally of Trump’s, said his performance would make it more difficult for Republicans to abandon him. “They’ve really raised the ante on Republicans who want to cut and run,” he said. “How can you have watched that debate without knowing he won?”

Some Republican lawmakers, such as Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (Calif.), questioned during the conference call Monday why GOP leaders hesitate to back Trump, citing Clinton’s weakness as a candidate.

In an email Monday, Ryan spokeswoman AshLee Strong said that “there is no update on [the speaker’s] position at this time” in regards to endorsing Trump. But she added, “The speaker is going to spend the next month focused entirely on protecting our congressional majorities.”

In withdrawing his public support from Trump, Ryan is essentially giving other Republican lawmakers license to do the same if they oppose Trump’s statements and are concerned about their reelection chances. After the 2005 video emerged, Ryan said he was “disgusted” by Trump’s comments but did not withdraw his support.

“You all need to do what’s best for you and your district,” Ryan said on the conference call, according to two participants who spoke anonymously because of the private nature of the call.

With this move, Ryan at least partially joined a growing group of high-profile Republican lawmakers who have renounced their support of Trump following the disclosure Friday by The Post of an 11-year-old videotape of the businessman talking casually about kissing and groping women. That group includes Sens. Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) and John McCain (Ariz.), both in tough reelection races, and Rep. Jason Chaffetz (Utah).

Republicans who participated in the post-debate conference call Monday morning are becoming increasingly worried about their chances of holding on to their 30-seat House majority as Trump lags dangerously behind Clinton in the polls. One described the tone of the call as “nervous.”

An NBC News-Wall Street Journal survey released Monday showed Trump taking a big dip after the release of the videotape, with Clinton leading Trump by double digits among likely voters, 46 percent to 35 percent, in a four-way contest. Democrats had a seven-point lead on the question of which party voters would like to see control Congress.

Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.), chairman of the House GOP campaign arm, briefed lawmakers on the House battlegrounds, warning that the “ground is shifting,” according to a lawmaker on the call. Walden said that Republicans should continue to poll their races and that winning would be equivalent to “landing an airplane in a hurricane: You have to trust the instruments.”

The speaker plans to spend the next month, he told lawmakers on the conference call, “only campaigning for House seats and not . . . to promote or defend Trump,” according to a GOP lawmaker. Ryan plans to campaign in 17 states and 42 cities in October to help preserve his majority.

The House GOP call was an opportunity for members to check in after a chaotic weekend in which dozens of GOP lawmakers revoked their support for Trump after the release of the video. Lawmakers spent the weekend fielding a barrage of questions about their support for Trump, without any formal guidance from party leaders.

Ryan typically holds weekly sessions for his members, referring to the confabs as “family meetings” where members are invited to speak their minds. The meetings have become a mainstay for a House GOP that has been plagued by infighting and crises for more than a year.

Pence made his first campaign appearance since news of the videotape had broken, telling a group in Charlotte on Monday that it had been “an interesting few days.” He lauded Trump for apologizing during the debate for his vulgar remarks about forcing himself on women in 2005.

“It takes a big man to know when he’s wrong and admit it,” said Pence, adding, “Donald Trump last night showed that he’s a big man.”

The governor also brought up his Christian faith in his explanation of why he continues to stand by Trump, saying he believes in “grace” and “forgiveness.”

Pence made a similar pitch Monday while speaking on Fox News Channel’s “Fox and Friends,” even as he made clear that his former colleagues in Congress should remember that voters, rather than elected officials, will determine who succeeds President Obama.

“My hope is that people across the country, including elected officials, believe in redemption as much as I do,” he said. “I’m happy to talk to any of my friends in leadership. But really, this election is really in the hands of the American people.”

Democrats suggested that any effort by Republicans to distance themselves from their nominee at this point in the race would not shield them from the repercussions of his candidacy this fall.

“I understand why they’re doing that, but Paul Ryan and other leaders in the Republican Party — there was a time where they could have spoken out. That time was this summer. And obviously it’s too late now,” Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri told reporters aboard the campaign’s plane Monday while en route to Detroit. “Somewhat of a civil war is breaking out in the Republican Party, but I think that Donald Trump didn’t become the nominee of his party on his own. These leaders help legitimize him and I think they have a lot to answer for, and the voters, I imagine, will hold them accountable.”

And even as the actions Trump described in the 2005 videotape continued to spark renewed controversy this week, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) told a reporter from the Weekly Standard that when it came to Trump’s allusions to forcibly kissing women and grabbing them by their genitals, ” I don’t characterize that as sexual assault.”

After someone tweeted in response that Sessions’s comments were akin to when then-Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) torpedoed his 2012 Senate bid to unseat Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) by referring to “legitimate rape,” McCaskill said that was “not fair to Todd Akin.”

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #162 on: October 11, 2016, 04:45:11 AM »
Trump’s truest believers start to worry: ‘You could easily lose’
As Donald Trump bounces from one controversy to another and Hillary Clinton gains in the polls, some of the GOP nominee’s most devoted supporters are pointing fingers at many people they say are to blame — including Trump.
By Jenna Johnson

 AMBRIDGE, Pa. — The morning after the vice-presidential debate, Cathy Frasca woke at 5 a.m. and hand-wrote a four-page letter to Donald Trump that said: “It is obvious that you could easily lose this election.”

The 89-year-old grandmother urged Trump to release his taxes, ignore the controversies that Hillary Clinton tries to start, stop tweeting at 3 a.m. and remember that “Bill Clinton is not running for election, so please avoid using precious time to discuss his sex life.” Instead, Frasca wrote, Trump should tell voters about how he will improve the country.

“You know what to do but time is running out,” she wrote in closing. “My prayers are with you always.”

As Trump bounces from one controversy to another and Hillary Clinton gains in the polls, there is a growing realization among some of his most devoted supporters that he could lose the election. They still hope he will win, as the idea of another President Clinton angers and scares them. They blame the Republican Party for not doing enough to support its nominee, the media for focusing on comments Trump made years ago and Democrats who, they say, rigged the system. But they also place a little blame on Trump.

As Frasca watched the second presidential debate Sunday night, she was glad to see that Trump seemed better prepared and that he apologized for his “toilet talk” in 2005 when he told an “Access Hollywood” host that he could grope women and force himself on them sexually because he was famous. She was delighted to hear Trump tell Clinton that she should be in jail, but she didn’t understand why he dragged along women who have accused former president Bill Clinton of sexual assault or harassment.

On Monday morning, Frasca put on a yellow T-shirt featuring a screaming Hillary Clinton, flames and the message, “Liar! Liar! Pants suit on fire.” She and a few friends from her retirement community in Sewickley traveled a few miles north to a high school gym in this suburb of Pittsburgh for a Trump rally. Frasca brought along a copy of the letter she mailed to Trump Tower, just in case she got to meet the candidate.

At rallies like these, Trump can live in a world where he is still winning. He was introduced as “the next president” and greeted by a screaming crowd of 2,500 while, he said, “thousands and thousands” more waited outside. There were no polls showing Clinton with a double-digit lead, no debate moderators grilling him on the Syrian conflict, no party leaders telling him to tone it down. Here, Trump declared himself the winner of the debate, berated the media and attacked Clinton without any interruptions from fact-checkers.

Crowds like these are Trump’s case for not dropping out of the race. Crowds like these are his evidence that he can still win. Crowds are his polls.

But Trump has already won these people over, and if he wants to win the election, he has to dramatically broaden his following.

Outside the high school, a few dozen union workers and protesters gathered. One man held a sign that said, “Trump is a sexual pervert.” Three young women chanted: “Trump’s unfit!”

Jamie Young, 49, watched the commotion from a friend’s porch. She voted for Trump in Pennsylvania’s Republican primary and went to five of his rallies — and is now embarrassed that she did.

“The tipping point for me was this last video — it’s like, enough is enough. Enough is enough. I’ve had it,” said Young, an airport worker who now plans to write in Gary Johnson, the Libertarian nominee. “I believed that he was tough and he had a set — but his set is a little too big.”

Clinton supporter Marlene Monza, 65, brought along a mannequin dressed in a suit and wearing bright lipstick, along with a sign decorated with hearts: “This is the presidential look that has my vote!”

“This contest is not so much between him and her, it’s gender-based, because if we had a Democrat who was a 90-year-old man in a wheelchair on oxygen he would be 90 points ahead of Donald Trump right now,” said Monza, who remembers being asked at her first job interview if she had a boyfriend and, later, not being able to get a credit card in her own name.

Her friend Joan Verner, 73, almost started crying as she looked at a line of Trump supporters stretching more than a quarter of a mile. Verner brought along two black cats — Halloween decorations turned into political statements about Trump’s crude boast on the 2005 videotape about grabbing women “by the p---y.”

“I cannot believe all of the derogatory things that he has said about women,” said Verner, who has voted for Republicans and Democrats. “He does not have a nice thing to say about women. And they want to line up and vote for him?”

On the other side of the street, a Trump supporter in line screamed: “What about Bill Clinton? Clinton is still a rapist!” A vendor sold blue yard signs that said: “Trump that b---- before it’s too late.” Another sold T-shirts showing a cartoon Trump urinating on the word “Hillary.”

Pam Butler, 59, is worried Trump will lose. She blames the Republican establishment.

Butler, who lives in Evans City and works at the post office, was appalled to learn that House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) announced Monday he would no longer defend Trump or campaign with him. “I’m sickened by it, just sickened,” she said. “They’re going to regret it. . . . They’re going to regret it in the end. I hope they do. Their constituents are going to leave them.”

Ron Ritz, 69, blames the media for making a big deal out of Trump’s 2005 comments. Ritz said now that Trump has apologized, everyone needs to move on and focus on issues of greater importance — such as Clinton’s use of a private email server while secretary of state and her response to the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya.

“We are guys, and there are locker room statements, okay? There are girls that go to locker rooms and make statements, too,” said Ritz, an Air Force veteran who lives in Somerset County.

He said he had never expressed anything like what Trump said in the tape but admitted, “I have said things to guys that I would not say to a girl.”

Ritz said that the polls are not accurate and that he expects Trump to win — but that the Republican could lose because Democrats will use the names of dead people to pile up fraudulent votes.

“If things are done aboveboard and legally, the American people want Donald J. Trump. They do not like Hillary,” Ritz said. “Where I have been, I have not seen two Hillary signs — and hundreds of Trump signs. That’s a fact.”

In the high school gym, it seemed like Trump was polling at 100 percent. The screaming crowd reassured Frasca, the letter-writing grandmother who still hopes Trump will read her letter and adopt her strategy. If he wins, she has promised her neighbors that she will crack open an expensive bottle of Scotch that belonged to her late husband.

“I pray every night that he will be president,” she said. “And every night I worry that she will be president.”

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #163 on: October 11, 2016, 05:07:33 AM »
It amazes anyone from the LGBT community would back Hillary

Seeing as if Hillarys immigration plan of a 550% increase in Muslims comes in effect....the chance, of gays in the future being randomly stabbed, shot or blown up for their lifestyle choice will also go up 550% as a result.

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #164 on: October 11, 2016, 05:11:32 AM »
It amazes anyone from the LGBT community would back Hillary

Seeing as if Hillarys immigration plan of a 550% increase in Muslims comes in effect....the chance, of gays in the future being randomly stabbed, shot or blown up for their lifestyle choice will also go up 550% as a result.

Funny you mention that... Hillary and her cronies are fully aware.

"43% of gays in Berlin have experienced hate crimes perpetrated by Muslims in particular, while two thirds of Turkish high school students in Berlin display homophobia."

"If you think Amsterdam is the gay capital of Europe, you're half-right, but 10 years out of date. Today it's the gay-bashing capital of Europe."


https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/295

But we are all special snowflakes here in America. It won't happen to our gays.
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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #165 on: October 11, 2016, 05:47:03 AM »
Said in such a compassionate tone, "death is the sentence"...


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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #166 on: October 11, 2016, 05:53:55 AM »


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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #167 on: October 11, 2016, 07:04:58 AM »
Trump’s truest believers start to worry: ‘You could easily lose’

not on getbig. 

Here, trump is actually leading by 14 points and there isn't a massive GOP civil war going on.

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #168 on: October 11, 2016, 07:11:59 AM »
not on getbig. 

Here, trump is actually leading by 14 points and there isn't a massive GOP civil war going on.




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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #169 on: October 11, 2016, 03:23:43 PM »
It amazes anyone from the LGBT community would back Hillary

Seeing as if Hillarys immigration plan of a 550% increase in Muslims comes in effect....the chance, of gays in the future being randomly stabbed, shot or blown up for their lifestyle choice will also go up 550% as a result.

You are obviously not very well informed about the LGBT community (among other things).  ::)

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #170 on: October 11, 2016, 03:27:21 PM »
Trump declares war on GOP, says ‘shackles have been taken off’
In a blizzard of tweets one month before the election, the Republican nominee lashed out at party leaders, calling House Speaker Paul Ryan "weak and ineffective" and "disloyal" after Ryan said he would no longer campaign for Trump.
By Sean Sullivan

Donald Trump declared war on the Republican establishment Tuesday, lashing out at House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (Wis.), Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) and other GOP elected officials as the extraordinary turbulence within the Republican Party intensified four weeks from Election Day.

One day after Ryan said he would no longer campaign on Trump’s behalf, the GOP nominee said as part of a barrage of tweets that Ryan is “weak and ineffective” and has provided “zero support” for his candidacy. Trump also declared that “the shackles have been taken off” him, freeing him to “fight for America the way I want to.”

Trump called McCain “foul-mouthed” and accused him with no evidence of once begging for his support. McCain is no longer backing Trump.

In perhaps the most piercing insult of all, Trump said his party is harder to deal with than even Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, whom conservatives loathe.

“Disloyal R’s are far more difficult than Crooked Hillary,” he wrote via Twitter, his preferred platform for igniting rhetorical fights against his foes. “They come at you from all sides. They don’t know how to win — I will teach them!”

The bevy of attacks directed at his fellow Republicans for his more than 12 million Twitter followers highlighted the fierce backlash that Ryan and his allies are bracing for during the final stage of a campaign that already has wreaked havoc on the party.

In backing away from Trump, Ryan and others are hoping to insulate themselves and their majorities on Capitol Hill from the baggage weighing down the nominee’s flagging campaign. For many, the breaking point was a 2005 video reported by The Washington Post on Friday in which Trump is heard making vulgar comments about physically forcing himself on women.

But in doing so, they are already absorbing counterattacks from Trump and his army of supporters. Many Trump boosters say they have been emboldened by the fight and are determined to exact punishment on the party establishment’s down-ballot candidates.

“I do think he’s going through one of those phases where he’s going to get his rebuttals out there for the circumstances that have unfolded starting yesterday morning. And I understand why he would feel frustrated,” Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said on CNN speaking of Trump, whom he supports.

Trump dispensed with his Twitter attacks Tuesday during a light day on the campaign trail. He is raising money in Texas in the afternoon and plans to hold a rally in Panama City Beach, Fla., in the evening.

Ryan said Monday that he would no longer defend or campaign with Trump. McCain pulled his support completely on Saturday in the wake of the 2005 video. Dozens of other Republican elected officials have gone even further, calling on Trump to leave the race.

“Paul Ryan is focusing the next month on defeating Democrats, and all Republicans running for office should probably do the same,” Ryan spokesman Brendan Buck said in a statement responding to Trump’s attacks Tuesday.

While Ryan is wagering that turning his attention away from Trump will save many Republican House colleagues, some Trump loyalists are trying to ensure that the plan backfires.

Trump spokeswoman Katrina Pierson tweeted Monday that she could not keep her mobile phone charged “due to the mass volume of texts from people” who plan to vote for Trump but not other Republicans on the ballot.

Diana Orrock, a Republican National Committeewoman from Nevada, said she is not voting for Republicans who don’t support Trump — including Rep. Joe Heck (Nev.), who is running for a seat that is critical in the battle for the Senate majority.

“We just had part of our Nevada delegation who’s running withdraw their endorsement for Trump and I am going on the record and withdrawing my support for them,” Orrock said on CNBC. “Let the chips fall where they may.”

Some Republicans have agonized over how to deal with Trump during the final weeks of the race. Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.), who ran against Trump in the GOP primary and is running for reelection in a key battleground state, issued a statement Tuesday saying he continues to support the nominee, whom he once called a “con man.”

“I disagree with him on many things, but I disagree with his opponent on virtually everything,” Rubio said. “I wish we had better choices for President. But I do not want Hillary Clinton to be our next President. And therefore my position has not changed.”

The sentiment that Trump is far from ideal but is better than the only realistic alternative is one many of his backers are clinging to as justification for maintaining their support.

“You don’t go after somebody who is, as Ronald Reagan would say, your 80 percent friend. What you do is stand with them,” Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) said Tuesday in an interview with Fox Business Network. “And it is not helpful to have this kind of drama going on. What you need to do is say we have a binary choice.”

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #171 on: October 11, 2016, 03:29:38 PM »
You are obviously not very well informed about the LGBT community (among other things).  ::)



Yes, I'm sure you think progressive liberals actually care about BLM, LGBT, Poor neighborhoods, etc ::)

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #172 on: October 11, 2016, 04:54:42 PM »
Predictwise has hrc win at 89% now.


http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner

Sam Wang of the election consortium has her at 97% (bayesian) or 95% (random drift)

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #173 on: October 11, 2016, 05:40:00 PM »
Predictwise has hrc win at 89% now.


http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner

Sam Wang of the election consortium has her at 97% (bayesian) or 95% (random drift)


what did they have brexit at??

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Re: Trump: the implosion continues
« Reply #174 on: October 11, 2016, 06:08:46 PM »

what did they have brexit at??

I was hoping "all the polls are actually wrong" from 2012 wouldn't be the defense in 2016.

If trump is running for president, things couldn't be going worse.
If trump is running for media empire and his own army of loyal diehard viewers, then things are going spectacularly.