A calorie is NOT a calorie!

[FREAKgeek]

For me calories are just calories.   Eat too many and you add weight.  Eat too few and you lose weight. 

Nothing to do with nutrition so you can eat garbage only and be thin/lean.

You might be in poor health but calories are still just calories.

People will disagree.  That's fine.  Eat too many donuts or too much grilled chicken and you'll get fat.

Yeah good health is overrated anyway - such a trivial issue too towards your fitness goals. But then you have conversations with god so maybe he throws you a bone.

[8 INCH not biceps]

no it means hes having pizza and doughnuts and counting calories and assimilating them into eating in a deficit.

as for vitamins and minerals, take a mutivit every day.

hahahhhaha you just owned yourself you retard telling people to take a mutivit if you have to take a multi that means your diet is lacking so a calorie is not a calorie since you are not getting all the nutrients the body needs.

[Simple Simon]

Wait a minute, why does he need a multi? Could it mean he's not eating right? Could it mean a calorie is not a calorie?

im not telling anyone to take a mutivit, Im saying if hes concerned about vitamins take a mutivit.

I never take multivits

try eating a gram of vit c.

[Man of Steel]

Yeah good health is overrated anyway - such a trivial issue too towards your fitness goals. But then you have conversations with god so maybe he throws you a bone.

My point wasn't that nutrition was unimportant, but that it was unrelated to caloric intake in general.  The ideal is obviously a conservative caloric intake that is sourced from nutritious food so that both weight, blood and organs are healthy and optimized.

Now I understand that you dislike that I can answer your religious objections, but don't let it consume you.  Each of us are ignorant on somethings.

[FREAKgeek]

My point wasn't that nutrition was unimportant, but that it was unrelated to caloric intake in general.  The ideal is obviously a conservative caloric intake that is sourced from nutritious food so that both weight, blood and organs are healthy and optimized.

Now I understand that you dislike that I can answer your religious objections, but don't let it consume you.  Each of us are ignorant on somethings.

Your dietary viewpoint is well taken, but there are people in here that take it literally.

I would love for you to correct me how I'm wrong about religion being imaginary, but you can't deliver - and I'm not being pejorative or condescending either

[Man of Steel]

Your dietary viewpoint is well taken, but there are people in here that take it literally.

I would love for you to correct me how I'm wrong about religion being imaginary, but you can't deliver - and I'm not being pejorative or condescending either

You want me to prove how religion isn't imaginary?   Billions attended religious services today.  Billions have done so for thousands of years.  I'd keep your religious questions to the religion board.

[Simple Simon]

You want me to prove how religion isn't imaginary?   Billions attended religious services today.  Billions have done so for thousands of years.  I'd keep your religious questions to the religion board.

A religion is just a religion.....

[valhalla]

I guess since a calorie is a calorie, we can just bulk up on these fuels:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/fuels-higher-calorific-values-d_169.html

Caloric measurement is just a measurement of heat and energy!

Use an online tool like Chronometer and plot in a days worth of sugarloaded processed food, and watch how deficient it is in nutrients.

 Hormones like Leptin and Ghrelin play a huge role in how we store fat and regulate appetite...and they are very influenced by what we eat.

Same goes for insulin, Igf1 etc etc.

To say fat is fat and carbs are carbs is to say you have no understanding of nutrition!
Coconut oil vs. Lard..sweet potato vs. Jellybeans. Very different structures and pathways in the body, and HUGE difference in hormonal respons.

Of course you can get in shape by eating shit food, but that doesn't mean that its optimal!

[JCL]

I guess since a calorie is a calorie, we can just bulk up on these fuels:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/fuels-higher-calorific-values-d_169.html

Caloric measurement is just a measurement of heat and energy!

Use an online tool like Chronometer and plot in a days worth of sugarloaded processed food, and watch how deficient it is in nutrients.

 Hormones like Leptin and Ghrelin play a huge role in how we store fat and regulate appetite...and they are very influenced by what we eat.

Same goes for insulin, Igf1 etc etc.

To say fat is fat and carbs are carbs is to say you have no understanding of nutrition!
Coconut oil vs. Lard..sweet potato vs. Jellybeans. Very different structures and pathways in the body, and HUGE difference in hormonal respons.

Of course you can get in shape by eating shit food, but that doesn't mean that its optimal!

SOMEONE ELSE THAT GETS IT!

and I thought I was the only non-idiot on these forums.

Great post, bravo.

Keep following your IIFYM approach you fat fucks.

[Nirvana]

I guess since a calorie is a calorie, we can just bulk up on these fuels:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/fuels-higher-calorific-values-d_169.html

Caloric measurement is just a measurement of heat and energy!

Use an online tool like Chronometer and plot in a days worth of sugarloaded processed food, and watch how deficient it is in nutrients.

 Hormones like Leptin and Ghrelin play a huge role in how we store fat and regulate appetite...and they are very influenced by what we eat.

Same goes for insulin, Igf1 etc etc.

To say fat is fat and carbs are carbs is to say you have no understanding of nutrition!
Coconut oil vs. Lard..sweet potato vs. Jellybeans. Very different structures and pathways in the body, and HUGE difference in hormonal respons.

Of course you can get in shape by eating shit food, but that doesn't mean that its optimal!

That's the idea.

[funk51]

So I tested it finally. I went on a 8 week diet of eating fast food everyday consisting of;

Tim hortons egg and bacon wraps
Tim hortons chicken wraps
Bourben street grill veggies and chicken only
Mcdonalds chicken wraps
Protein bars
and some other not so typical foods.
prac
I kept my calories around 1800-2000 everyday and I tracked calories everyday.       i give you dr c f smith original practitioner and exponent of the theory.

I put on 15-18 lbs of shitty ass weight and I look soft as shit now.

Just before this, I dieted for a vacaton for 8 weeks, and ate my typical diet foods

Chicken, brocolli, beans, oatmeal, Natural PB, brown rice etc, and got  in great shape.

Im sure everyone is different but for me, a calories is NOT a calorie!

True Adonis must be a genetic freak!

[pellius]

Of course calories matter. If you are in a caloric surplus you will gain weight. A caloric deficit will result in weight lost. But that calorie, that particular macronutrient, reacts quite differently when ingested.

http://ergo-log.com/soft-drink-ruins-slimming-effect-of-high-protein-diet.html

[Simple Simon]

Of course calories matter. If you are in a caloric surplus you will gain weight. A caloric deficit will result in weight lost. But that calorie, that particular macronutrient, reacts quite differently when ingested.

http://ergo-log.com/soft-drink-ruins-slimming-effect-of-high-protein-diet.html

stopped when I read this

 

But allowing yourself toxic fast sugars

sugar isn't toxic to the body, stupid twat.

[pellius]

Frankilin Iriarte, thats what it was

I never bothered to find out if that was really it or not

You sad little tragic parasite. Calling ESF fitness relatives to harass them. What a lonely little man you are that has wasted your life and can't stay away from this board. As OMR said, "You are a real POS." You don't have any personal information on me and I have a very common name. If you did you would have tried to harass me in real life. When I type my real name on google nothing comes up because I've never used it on the net and don't have any social media accounts.

As your Parkinson's disease progresses and you start to grow more introspective and look back on your life will you be proud of yourself? In your day you were blessed with good looks, a robust well above average physical genetics, and an above average intelligence but you just wasted yourself. Not because of your so called mental issues. Those mental issues came after you realized you flushed your best years down the toilet and were headed to, well, what you've become now.

Life can be very unforgiving and there are real consequences to the choices that you make. The streets are littered with tragic, hopeless lives such as yourself.

[pellius]

stopped when I read this

 
sugar isn't toxic to the body, stupid twat.

Those familiar with the site know that they often make sarcastic remarks and make some attempt at humor.

[pellius]

fuck i got some hacker to dox you and get your real info,....i was banned for so long i gave up on posting it
now i cant fucking remember

some weird ass name,.....fuck sakes

You actually recruited someone to investigate me. Really? I mean that much to you. And to think that I give you zero thought in real life. BTW, this ip addy isn't even mine.

This is just another example and where you are at in life.

[pellius]

I dont have Parkinsons i lied
i have essential tremors from my medication
sucked a lot of people in for sympathy though,....helped get a solid 3k out of junior
dont worry about esf hes on a hardcore mission with a legal case against me---i hurt his feelers apparently

and you, meh, irrelevant to me. No ill never find your real name in life and yes i would have gone to severe extremes hassling you and your relatives in real life just  cause you are sooooo arrogant. You ever notice i only target arrogant people?

anyways, blah blah weeeeeeeee

"sucked a lot of people in for sympathy though,....helped get a solid 3k out of junior"

Wow. Try to step outside of yourself for a moment and just look at yourself. Look at what you have become.

Things never end well for people like you.

[pellius]

where am i?
I come on here once every 4 months with a gimmick for one night blabbing about this and that and my life is so bad?

Iwould lay everything, my life on the line, that Ive got more going for me than you.
Youre so convoluted by what others say on here.
Christ I could type on here that Im flying a radar plane over your place and youd believe it

but hey you keep on comin on here 9 days a week  

LOL. Just that fact that I am not on the dole sponging off the taxpayers and on no medication, can hold down a job -- not to mention I can ride in an airplane without crying like a baby in addition to having a huge family that actually talks to me and haven't been in and out of jail puts me head and tails above your sorry ass.

Anyway, we will see who has the last laugh.

[pellius]

Im exactly who I wanted to become. Someone who cares zero for the well being of others
and as far as end well,....get a grip wrinkle man, you dont know me or my future

So that was your life's ambition.

Congratulations.

And we know you. We all know you very well. You just told us. And your future is clear. It's just something you never thought about nor planned for.

[pellius]

row row row your boat gently down the stream

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

jibbididay

just out of curiosity why do you think my family doesnt talk to me. They all do. Yup im scared of flying, im sure you have a fear too but clearly you are far too studly to admit it

last laugh? Shit i get the last laugh everyday of my life.

Yes, my biggest fear was turning out to be somebody like you. That's why I've never been drunk or high in my life. Put myself through school (though it took seven years since I had to work full time) and got a good job and lived modestly while saving my pennies. I'll retire pretty comfortably in another few years.

[pellius]

true story
from the age of 18 my ambition was to do as little as possible, chase the crown of laziest human on earth, somehow make other peoples lives miserable, be a master manipulator and ddo whatever i want when i want. Im not bullshitting you that was it. Im right where I wannabe in life. I do whatever the fuck i want when i want, manipulate nearly everyone, love seeing people suffer and dont give a fuck what others think of me. There is simply no scenario where I couldbe happier,...other than maybe a few more bucks a month

Priceless.

[dseiler]

stopped when I read this

 
sugar isn't toxic to the body, stupid twat.

sugar isn't toxic to the body unless you consume it ungodly amounts like most americans do, stupid twat.

[Simple Simon]

sugar isn't toxic to the body unless you consume it ungodly amounts like most americans do, stupid twat.

Americans consume ungodly amounts of sugar and that makes me the stupid twat?

He wrote sugar, then "toxic", no mention of amounts, that indicated he though sugar was toxic full stop.

Try again dickwad.,

[Griffith]

'Sugar is toxic' 

[Mr Anabolic]

sugar isn't toxic to the body, stupid twat.

Refined sugars are the main cause of inflammation.  

Try a low/no carb diet for a month.  Most of your aches and pains will be substantially decreased.  

Refined sugars = toxic