Author Topic: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?  (Read 6083 times)

The Italian Lifter

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 3582
  • I need an English dictionary!
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2016, 04:59:18 AM »
What helped me heal from a front shoulder injury in the past was acupuncture.

I had it done at a Chinese place, first they did a massive amount of stretching, then deep massage in the muscle for spasms and to iron out scar tissue, then acupuncture attached to a machine which sends electrical impulses into the muscle, and finally cupping (heated glass which sucks up skin and brings blood to surface to help eliminate toxins) in the front and back of my shoulder

After 5 sessions my shoulder was completely fixed, before that I could barely hold or lift up a cup of coffee.

This is very interesting for two reasons: first it worked. Second the two specialists I saw were reluctant in suggesting anything that was not realted to normal medicine i.e. no traditional remedies.
North of Italy

DroppingPlates

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 49987
  • Team Pocahontas
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2016, 05:02:48 AM »
Ask your physician which movements are safe in your particular case. Most of them allow various raises with your thumbs up, but discourage you to perform presses.
Best of luck, friend

The Italian Lifter

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 3582
  • I need an English dictionary!
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2016, 05:39:39 AM »
Ask your physician which movements are safe in your particular case. Most of them allow various raises with your thumbs up, but discourage you to perform presses.
Best of luck, friend

Thanks mate, the suggestion was to quit training.
The only movements he suggested for shoulders are the one opposite of pressing i.e. when you pull your arms towards your body.

Guess I'm only left with leg days...... ::)
North of Italy

DroppingPlates

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 49987
  • Team Pocahontas
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2016, 07:53:31 AM »
Thanks mate, the suggestion was to quit training.
The only movements he suggested for shoulders are the one opposite of pressing i.e. when you pull your arms towards your body.

Guess I'm only left with leg days...... ::)

Sounds like a non-lifting doc. Just try very strict raises with pink weights (no homo) for a while. I did super-slow reps (3 reps of 20 seconds, 10 concentric/10 eccentric) after I was diagnosed with a tear between my infra- & supraspinatus, which worked very well. Months later I'm able to perform regular sets with decent weights without serious pain.

local hero

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8714
  • mma finance warrior of peace
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2016, 08:14:22 AM »
I've had shoulder problem the past 5 month, they say its bicep tendinitis with a few littles tears chucked in too, legs tiwce a week, shoulder rehab abbs n cardio on the other days, with extremely light chest/back/arms

You have to keep plodding away,I had an ac joint issue that took two years to clear up, just take care, even teeny weights using angles and half reps, slowed right down gives u a pump with no joint pain, u have to leave your ego at the door and be happy with getting blood in there so the muscle doesn't shrink to nothing.

If you get into the right mindset you can still get a good workout, altho i must look pathetic straining with 10kg a side on the hammer chest machine

Irongrip400

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22415
  • Pan Germanism, Pax Britannica
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2016, 09:51:46 PM »
I have a friend who had calcium deposits in his shoulders. He was about your age at the time. Doctors told him he had to quit, wich he did.
I have rotator cuff tendonitis wich is a different issue. Also had a parcial tear on the one in the right side. I deal with it by doing everything underhand grip; benches, rows, presses...Have been pain free since i changed my trainig style.

No homo.

Will try this out when I finally get back in the gym (no homo x2).

oldtimer1

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 18124
  • Getbig!
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2016, 07:49:24 AM »
Even straight bar curls hurt my bad shoulder. EZ hurts it less.  Still do delt dumbbell laterals even though they hurt.  Surprisingly the standard military press doesn't kill me.  The bench press is completely out.  Feels like I am doing damage with every rep no matter what the weight.   

The Scott

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22552
  • I'm a victim of soicumcision!!
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2016, 08:34:35 AM »
My shoulders ache all the time.  I no longer do shoulder presses at all, not even machine presses. For delts I just do DB laterals with a light weight for 10 to 50 reps or one-arm cable laterals in the same rep range.

I am doing what I can to not go gently into that good night.   ;D

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2016, 09:29:36 AM »
Calcium deposits are caused by way too little saturated fat in your diet, and way too much carbs in your diet. You need saturated fat in abundance in your diet, in order to form viable cells in your body. Every cell in your body, including bone cells, is encased in a lipid layer of saturated fat. With trillions of body cells, all being built, and replaced constantly, you need a lot of saturated fat in your diet, to keep a proper cell building process working. Carbs, sugars and starches, leach calcium away from weak cell structures, in the absence of enough saturated fat in the diet to make proper cells. When your bone cells aren't properly constructed, by having thin cell walls, because you don't get enough saturated fat (from animal sources) in your diet, calcium will be pulled from your bones and teeth, into your blood stream. Your body still tries to hold on to the calcium in your blood stream, by putting it in other places, such as muscles and joint cartilage. In cases of temporary famine conditions, that can be reversed by you starting to eating well again, as in getting more saturated fat into your diet, when the famine is over. Constant low fat, high carb diet, can result in permanent injury to many body parts.

_bruce_

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 23830
  • Sam Sesambröt Sulek
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2016, 10:04:58 AM »
Calcium deposits are caused by way too little saturated fat in your diet, and way too much carbs in your diet. You need saturated fat in abundance in your diet, in order to form viable cells in your body. Every cell in your body, including bone cells, is encased in a lipid layer of saturated fat. With trillions of body cells, all being built, and replaced constantly, you need a lot of saturated fat in your diet, to keep a proper cell building process working. Carbs, sugars and starches, leach calcium away from weak cell structures, in the absence of enough saturated fat in the diet to make proper cells. When your bone cells aren't properly constructed, by having thin cell walls, because you don't get enough saturated fat (from animal sources) in your diet, calcium will be pulled from your bones and teeth, into your blood stream. Your body still tries to hold on to the calcium in your blood stream, by putting it in other places, such as muscles and joint cartilage. In cases of temporary famine conditions, that can be reversed by you starting to eating well again, as in getting more saturated fat into your diet, when the famine is over. Constant low fat, high carb diet, can result in permanent injury to many body parts.

Interesting - I used to be a low fat f_a_g for some time. I remember my pains getting worse when I ate a vegan diet.
.

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2016, 10:06:53 AM »
Interesting - I used to be a low fat f_a_g for some time. I remember my pains getting worse when I ate a vegan diet.

True! A vegan diet = painful AND weak!

Go 4 It

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4130
  • "The World Meets Nobody Half Way"
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2016, 11:53:45 AM »
Try stem cell therapy, many top athletes use this for injuries, seems to be the cure for a lot of injuries
4

DroppingPlates

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 49987
  • Team Pocahontas
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2016, 01:08:50 PM »
Try stem cell therapy, many top athletes use this for injuries, seems to be the cure for a lot of injuries

I've discussed alternative therapies like SCT & PRP with my orthopedic surgeon, but he warned me about the small chance on success and the pricing.
David Palumbo tried SCT, but no relieve in his shoulder.

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2016, 01:12:41 PM »
I've discussed alternative therapies like SCT & PRP with my orthopedic surgeon, but he warned me about the small chance on success and the pricing.
David Palumbo tried SCT, but no relieve in his shoulder.

Did you try to lose the carbs, and up the saturated fat in your diet? Of course you didn't!

DroppingPlates

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 49987
  • Team Pocahontas
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2016, 01:15:56 PM »
Did you try to lose the carbs, and up the saturated fat in your diet? Of course you didn't!

I like my eggs and coconut oil, thank you

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2016, 01:36:37 PM »
I like my eggs and coconut oil, thank you

Coconut oil is plant based garbage.

DroppingPlates

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 49987
  • Team Pocahontas
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2016, 01:49:40 PM »
Coconut oil is plant based garbage.

And so are most of your postings

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2016, 01:54:58 PM »
And so are most of your postings
All of my "posts" are super informative. When you ever grow a brain, then you will understand that.

DroppingPlates

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 49987
  • Team Pocahontas
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2016, 01:57:21 PM »
All of my "posts" are super informative. When you ever grow a brain, then you will understand that.

No, you're just farting with your mouth

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2016, 01:58:32 PM »
No, you're just farting with your mouth
Then you post something useful, for the first time ever.

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2016, 02:48:07 PM »
DroppingPlates, as a handle, shows the basic incompetence you realized was true, when you made up that stupid name. You have zero business posting here. You know nothing about the subject. You are an absolute joke, when it comes to fitness and muscle building. You know nothing. NOTHING!

DroppingPlates

  • Competitors II
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 49987
  • Team Pocahontas
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2016, 03:05:00 PM »
DroppingPlates, as a handle, shows the basic incompetence you realized was true, when you made up that stupid name. You have zero business posting here. You know nothing about the subject. You are an absolute joke, when it comes to fitness and muscle building. You know nothing. NOTHING!

Should I cry now?

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2016, 03:07:28 PM »
Should I cry now?
You should slither back under that rock you came out from under, and never darken the doors of GetBig again.

King Shizzo

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 35080
  • Ron crowned me King because I always deliver.
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2016, 03:14:47 PM »
Real men work through the pain.

Then we die upon our shields.

Erik C

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2516
Re: Terrible shoulder pain - Training again or quit?
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2016, 03:19:10 PM »
Real men work through the pain.
Then we die upon our shields.

You worthless fat piece of shit, the only pain you feel is moving your fat fucking ass, something you avoid doing, under any, and every circumstance.