Trump = Winning

[Necrosis]

Meh.  Never heated.  And I don't consider these debates.  They are discussions.  And poly hasn't been a moderator for years.

That's why I tell you to be careful using AI. 

Not heated he says lololol. You can't accept criticism, it's hilarious.

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Damn US navy ships without power, water or properly stocked. Hegseth being tip lipped about Iran's destruction of a vital base.

Serious winning going on.

It's almost like your country is being run by a con-man and a bunch of sycophant clowns???

I see world liberty is getting bank status, totally not corrupt LMAO.

Maga's still support this retard?

[IroNat]

Trump’s bold ‘Finland Model’ strategy is actually reviving America’s military fleet

https://nypost.com/2026/08/19/opinion/trumps-bold-finland-plan-is-reviving-americas-military-fleet/

[Soul Crusher]

Ron must love the millions of views these threads get!   Ron = Winning

[chaos]

Ron must love the millions of views these threads get!   Ron = Winning

Ron knows Trump is the key to success, no matter what some liberal snow mexican says.

[IroNat]

Ron must love the millions of views these threads get!   Ron = Winning

At a nickel a pop it really adds up.

[chaos]

Winning!!!


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/yes-trump-is-right-the-strait-of-hormuz-is-open-and-iran-is-in-trouble/ar-AA2aA4qK?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=6a884569ad0c4085a377219fa07c2d8d&ei=18

[chaos]

Still winning!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/the-latest-supreme-court-chief-justice-allows-white-house-ballroom-renovation-to-continue-for-now/ar-AA2aDTDe?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=6a885cb6d38e4e37bad46ddd8ba0c67c&ei=13

[B_B_C]

Still winning!!!

yes

[IroNat]

EPA to Enact Emergency Fuel Waiver to Increase Domestic Gas Supply, Lower Prices

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2026/08/20/exclusive-epa-to-enact-emergency-fuel-waiver-to-increase-domestic-gas-supply-lower-prices/

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EPA to Enact Emergency Fuel Waiver to Increase Domestic Gas Supply, Lower Prices

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2026/08/20/exclusive-epa-to-enact-emergency-fuel-waiver-to-increase-domestic-gas-supply-lower-prices/

That's awesome! the war you guys already won should be over soon anyway

[deadz]

EPA to Enact Emergency Fuel Waiver to Increase Domestic Gas Supply, Lower Prices

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2026/08/20/exclusive-epa-to-enact-emergency-fuel-waiver-to-increase-domestic-gas-supply-lower-prices/

Gas, gas, gas people must spend the day just driving around. I fill up my eight cylinder once a month.

[Primemuscle]

EPA to Enact Emergency Fuel Waiver to Increase Domestic Gas Supply, Lower Prices

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2026/08/20/exclusive-epa-to-enact-emergency-fuel-waiver-to-increase-domestic-gas-supply-lower-prices/

What I find interesting about "winter gas" is that while it is cheaper to buy but it also burns and evaporates faster than the summer blends do. On average, you get somewhere between 1% to 2% less MPG from winter blends.  I do not know if this makes the supposed savings a wash.

Like Deadz, I fill my 11-gallon gas tank one time or less than once a month. Currently, with 99% city driving in a hilly neighborhood, I get just under 22 MPG. I drive less than 200 miles per month most of the time. So, the higher gas prices have not been as big a problem for me than it has for many other people. I feel bad for people who have a long commute to their jobs.

I am surprised Deadz drives an eight-cylinder vehicle. Based on his previous brags, I imagine he be driving a high-end v-12 vehicle like a Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Rolls-Royce, or a Mercedes-Maybach S 680.

[deadz]

What I find interesting about "winter gas" is that while it is cheaper to buy but it also burns and evaporates faster than the summer blends do. On average, you get somewhere between 1% to 2% less MPG from winter blends.  I do not know if this makes the supposed savings a wash.

Like Deadz, I fill my 11-gallon gas tank one time or less than once a month. Currently, with 99% city driving in a hilly neighborhood, I get just under 22 MPG. I drive less than 200 miles per month most of the time. So, the higher gas prices have not been as big a problem for me than it has for many other people. I feel bad for people who have a long commute to their jobs.

I am surprised Deadz drives an eight-cylinder vehicle. Based on his previous brags, I imagine he be driving a high-end v-12 vehicle like a Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Rolls-Royce, or a Mercedes-Maybach S 680.

BMW M5 Competition, Love it! Hope to own a Ferrari in the future.Not into the other bands mentioned.

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BMW M5 Competition, Love it! Hope to own a Ferrari in the future. Not into the other bands mentioned.

A Ferrari would be a fun drive.

There was a time when I was in my 20's when I dreamed of owning a Mercedes or a Jaguar (any model would have been okay). But that time passed years ago.

Last April, I traded in my 2016 Mazda CX-3 GT on a 2026 Mazda CX-30 2.5 S Premium. After driving the CX-3 for ten years, it had only 36,000 miles on it. So, the new purchase was bought on a whim and because I wanted a change and not because I needed a new car. I did not go for the Turbo model because I am an old man who drives like an old man. LOL!

My daughter has a 2026 Mazda 3 2.5 Turbo Premium Plus. What is funny about this is that she drives the speed limit just like her dad does. Her Mazda is sportier looking than mine and also more expensive.

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Gas, gas, gas people must spend the day just driving around. I fill up my eight cylinder once a month.
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all revved up and nowhere to go

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couldn't of said it better.

[chaos]

[Primemuscle]

Childish post spotted.

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That's awesome! the war you guys already won should be over soon anyway

Somebody had to hit them.

Not like you guys were going to do anything.

Or even could.

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Somebody had to hit them.

Not like you guys were going to do anything.

Or even could.

Nobody had to do anything, they have been an imminent threat for 47 years. The pretense of nuclear weapons makes zero sense based on the timeline and trumps own comments as well. There was no justification for the war but you are acting as if it was a must, much like weapons of mass destruction you have bought the propaganda.

Obama did not have to attack them and his plan was working until trump tore it up because he is petty. You have a man child leading your nation towards bankruptcy. None of his economic policies help and almost everything he does is impulsive.

It was also a poorly planned war, he fired everyone that disagreed and tried to give good council. It's logically unjustifiable. Now we learn that the military is being treated poorly aboard ships. He simply does not care about anything other than his own enrichment, if you realize he is mentally ill you can reframe his decisions in the proper light and stop believing his lies. He lies almost everytime he talks.

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Nobody had to do anything, they have been an imminent threat for 47 years. The pretense of nuclear weapons makes zero sense based on the timeline and trumps own comments as well. There was no justification for the war but you are acting as if it was a must, much like weapons of mass destruction you have bought the propaganda.

Obama did not have to attack them and his plan was working until trump tore it up because he is petty. You have a man child leading your nation towards bankruptcy. None of his economic policies help and almost everything he does is impulsive.

It was also a poorly planned war, he fired everyone that disagreed and tried to give good council. It's logically unjustifiable. Now we learn that the military is being treated poorly aboard ships. He simply does not care about anything other than his own enrichment, if you realize he is mentally ill you can reframe his decisions in the proper light and stop believing his lies. He lies almost everytime he talks.

I always go back to the original premise - did you believe that Iran had enriched uranium to 60% or not?

[chaos]

The Iran nuclear deal or JCPOA expired on October 18, 2025 and Iran announced it would no longer be bound by its terms. This followed the UN Security Council decision not to renew the suspension of sanctions on Iran under the agreement following alleged non-compliance by Tehran; what was called the “snapback” procedure. This move was initiated by the three European countries that were party to the agreement: France, Germany and the United Kingdom. The other parties to the agreement, China and Russia, opposed this, but were unable to muster enough votes in the Security Council to prevent it.

[Necrosis]

I always go back to the original premise - did you believe that Iran had enriched uranium to 60% or not?

Not according to the reports that they obliterated there nuclear program, no.  They then confirmed that they had it buried under a mountain that only the us or china could extract, so I do not believe them. They have said multiple different things and the 60% would justify (or attempt to) attacking them, much like weapons of mass destruction. I also, don't see how them having that is any business of the US, they were sticking to the agreement then they ripped it up, of course they can do as they please, they are a free nation.

I have a hard time trusting anything coming out of this admin, especially when it conflicts with previous intelligence and intelligence from the international community.

Diplomatic means were not truly attempted.

[Grape Ape]

Not according to the reports that they obliterated there nuclear program, no.  They then confirmed that they had it buried under a mountain that only the us or china could extract, so I do not believe them. They have said multiple different things and the 60% would justify (or attempt to) attacking them, much like weapons of mass destruction. I also, don't see how them having that is any business of the US, they were sticking to the agreement then they ripped it up, of course they can do as they please, they are a free nation.

I have a hard time trusting anything coming out of this admin, especially when it conflicts with previous intelligence and intelligence from the international community.

Diplomatic means were not truly attempted.

So why do you believe reports that their nuclear program was obliterated?  Isn't that from the current admin?

Regardless, to my original question, the IAEA confirmed the 60% - here's a summary - sources are Iranitl.com and the AP news.  Do you dispute this?

Key points from IAEA reporting and related coverage:

Iran is the only non-nuclear-weapon state known to enrich to this level. The IAEA has described it as of “serious concern” because 60% is a short technical step from weapons-grade (~90%) material, with no clear civilian justification at that purity.

Inspectors verified production rates, cascade configurations, and material quantities. There were also detections of particles at higher levels (e.g., traces up to ~83.7% at Fordow in earlier reporting), which Iran attributed to fluctuations; the main stockpile has been reported at up to 60%.
After the June 2025 strikes on enrichment and related sites, Iran restricted or suspended IAEA access to affected facilities. Later IAEA reports state the agency can no longer fully verify the current size, composition, location, or status of the enriched uranium stockpile (or whether all enrichment has been suspended). Pre-strike estimates (including the ~440.9 kg of up-to-60% material) remain the baseline referenced in reporting, with much of the highly enriched material believed still present (e.g., a large portion stored at Isfahan).

Iran has openly acknowledged and defended the 60% enrichment (e.g., stating it is not banned under the NPT and that activities are declared/verifiable), while insisting its program is peaceful. The confirmation of the enrichment level and stockpile quantities, however, rests on IAEA safeguards verification rather than solely on Iranian statements.