Lee Haney had the right approach!

[dj181]

hahaha,, fucking knob head.

doesnt sound like you be queer 

[Simple Simon]

doesnt sound like you be queer 

and you getting ordered to do something doesnt fit your normal , "I do my own thing and listen to no one " posts either.

[Go 4 It]

my trainer/coacb at the time ordered me to do it

according to him you need to gain 2 or 3 pounds of fat for every pound of lean muscle tissue added

In this 10 week period you never felt the need to question your coach regarding this protocol? He didn't see that you were turning into a meatball? He should have never let you get over 14% bf.

[dj181]

and you getting ordered to do something doesnt fit your normal , "I do my own thing and listen to no one " posts either.

fair play

In this 10 week period you never felt the need to question your coach regarding this protocol? He didn't see that you were turning into a meatball? He should have never let you get over 14% bf.

good point but he was this fella so he is kinda known in this field even has an exercise named after him ie, the JM Press

[Simple Simon]

fair play

good point but he was this fella so he is kinda known in this field even has an exercise named after him ie, the JM Press

I wouldnt even talk to him....

[dj181]

I wouldnt even talk to him....

yep he has a massive ego, but he is also highly intelligent, i'd say a near genius iq

[Simple Simon]

yep he has a massive ego, but he is also highly intelligent, i'd say a near genius iq

is that why he writes on his arms in magic marker?

[Go 4 It]

fair play

good point but he was this fella so he is kinda known in this field even has an exercise named after him ie, the JM Press

Lol..I think the first problem is hiring a coach who is a power lifter, unless that was your goal? Was your goal with this diet to compete in power lifting?

[Simple Simon]

Lol..I think the first problem is hiring a coach who is a power lifter, unless that was your goal? Was your goal with this diet to compete in power lifting?

its likely he just wanted someone to talk to.

[dj181]

Lol..I think the first problem is hiring a coach who is a power lifter, unless that was your goal? Was your goal with this diet to compete in power lifting?

i competed in bp comps at the time and also did some physique modelling

he told me that one of my gifts was my ability to reach strong conditioning

its likely he just wanted someone to talk to.

it was a strange exchange btw us coz we both mostly liked to talk about ourselves LOL

he called himself an alpha male and he said quite a few funny things

like one time another friend of mine was talking bout some bodybuilder and JM said "who?" "never heard of him?" "what's he bench?" and my friend said his bench and then he replied "i'm not impressed!" all in a very strong and authoritative voice  LOL

[Simple Simon]

i competed in bp comps at the time and also did some physique modelling

he told me that one of my gifts was my ability to reach strong conditioning

it was a strange exchange btw us coz we both mostly liked to talk about ourselves LOL

he called himself an alpha male and he said quite a few funny things

like one time another friend of mine was talking bout some bodybuilder and JM said "who?" "never heard of him?" "what's he bench?" and my friend said his bench and then he replied "i'm not impressed!" all in a very strong and authoritative voice  LOL

you already said you dont have any friends....

[dj181]

you already said you dont have any friends....

paranoid much?

"friend" in this context means someone that i met on a regular basis and did shit with, like training, eating junk asian food at the resturant etc

riddle me this? do you have many close friends?

[8 INCH not biceps]

I seriously hope you dont believe this, have you ever competed on a national or pro level? Worked with coaches who are pros or coaches who train world champions?

Well I see you dont know how to detect sarcasm.

[The Scott]

paranoid much?

"friend" in this context means someone that i met on a regular basis and did shit with, like training, eating junk asian food at the resturant etc

riddle me this? do you have many close friends?

I understand exactly what you are saying, my friend.  As for those I hold close?  I have two such friends.  My older and younger brothers.

[Zillotch]

looked great, even with them little arms.

[Simple Simon]

paranoid much?

"friend" in this context means someone that i met on a regular basis and did shit with, like training, eating junk asian food at the resturant etc

riddle me this? do you have many close friends?

no.
I dont have anyone I share personal things with , apart from my partner.

[Disgusted]

I don't think that anyone should have to admit the use steroids (take illegal drugs). I don't have any problem with Haney denying that he uses. What I do have a problem with is anyone purposely denying it when not even asked. Hey look at me I'm a 240 pounds ripped natural. 

If Lee went down in weight after a show and I'm not talking about his rebound right after when he went to 260 I'm talking about coming off drugs and the intense lifting then yes he would likely consume a lot less calories when he was in the "off" season. So when he was back on and into his Olympia training he would up the calories because he not only was more active but he needed them to get back the muscle he lost while off. Also keep in mind that he most likely dropped his calories as the show got closer. So this may mean that he was coming close again to his off season calorie consumption.

If Lee ate about 4K cals and Phil eats about almost double that then can anyone tell me why he would "need" the extra calories? HINT: they are mostly in the form of carbs.

[8 INCH not biceps]

I don't think that anyone should have to admit the use steroids (take illegal drugs). I don't have any problem with Haney denying that he uses. What I do have a problem with is anyone purposely denying it when not even asked. Hey look at me I'm a 240 pounds ripped natural. 

If Lee went down in weight after a show and I'm not talking about his rebound right after when he went to 260 I'm talking about coming off drugs and the intense lifting then yes he would likely consume a lot less calories when he was in the "off" season. So when he was back on and into his Olympia training he would up the calories because he not only was more active but he needed them to get back the muscle he lost while off. Also keep in mind that he most likely dropped his calories as the show got closer. So this may mean that he was coming close again to his off season calorie consumption.

If Lee ate about 4K cals and Phil eats about almost double that then can anyone tell me why he would "need" the extra calories? HINT: they are mostly in the form of carbs.

I never understand why bodybuilders stuff themselves with carbs its not needed, your body use carbs for energy and its stored in your muscles as glycogen for future use so you dont need an excessive amount, you should be taking in lots of protein, vegetables and healthy fats because that is what the body uses to repair itself.

[The Scott]

If Lee ate about 4K cals and Phil eats about almost double that then can anyone tell me why he would "need" the extra calories? HINT: they are mostly in the form of carbs.

Personally, I think Phildo just needs to feed his monster of an ego.  It's the biggest thing on that manlet.
Including his arms.

[Zillotch]

I never understand why bodybuilders stuff themselves with carbs its not needed

Carbs are enjoyable

[Disgusted]

I know plenty of guys who use 10 ius of slin per meal at 6 meals a day and that's about average. That's gonna come to about 3k extra minimum in carb cals.

[8 INCH not biceps]

Carbs are enjoyable

That is because wheat is addictive, back in the 1970s when they genetically modified wheat in the usa to make more money they modified a protein in there called gliadin which fucks with your brain make you hungry and hooked on carbs, that is what gives you the desire for cakes, pizza burgers etc now when you combined that with the addictive refined sugar its no wonder america has an obesity crisis.

[dj181]

no.
I dont have anyone I share personal things with , apart from my partner.

alright, and thanks for the honest answer

[Zillotch]

That is because wheat is addictive, back in the 1970s when they genetically modified wheat in the usa to make more money they modified a protein in there called gliadin which fucks with your brain make you hungry and hooked on carbs, that is what gives you the desire for cakes, pizza burgers etc

Pretty sure gluttony predates genetically modified gliadins.

[FREAKgeek]

That is because wheat is addictive, back in the 1970s when they genetically modified wheat in the usa to make more money they modified a protein in there called gliadin which fucks with your brain make you hungry and hooked on carbs, that is what gives you the desire for cakes, pizza burgers etc now when you combined that with the addictive refined sugar its no wonder america has an obesity crisis.

One of the reasons why I don't agree with the  "calorie is a calorie" people. It's just too hard to diet on high carb.