Coffee - At home or on the road?

[DroppingPlates]

that espresso machine and grinder look kinda like a mismatch
... the espresso machine looks sharp while the grinder looks a little cheapo (but maybe it works well?)

Completely different designs, just like men & women, but often opposites attracts...

[stuntmovie]

DUMB BUT TRUE STORY ..... Just before I joined the USMC (RAH!!) I used to pay 10 t0 20 cents for a cup of coffee in downtown San Francisco (and that usually included a doughnut) and then all those years in the Corps I don't recall ever buying a cup of coffee because  we always had a pot boiling under some tree in some forsaken jungle.

So when I was released from active duty I saw a Starbucks and decided to give it a try.

Stood in line and got a cup and had a dollar bill in hand to pay the cashier ... expecting to get about 80 cents in change.

Almost shit my knickers when she asked for $2.00 more for this little cardboard cup of joe.

I paid the balance and semi-politely asked her what happened to the ten-cent kind ... but she had no idea what I was talking about.

And now those five cents doughnuts are three bucks a piece.

I think I'll sign up again.

[DroppingPlates]

Ha Stunt, you must have served for at least 50 years

BTW, which coffee had the best taste?

[Ropo]

Faxed

If that makes you happy, why not. Just for clearing things up: There is some different categories of the espresso machines:

1. El Cheapo piece of crap machines you can buy everywhere, petrol stations etc.
2. Market machines which you can buy from K-mart etc.
3. Real espresso machines, which you can buy from speciality- shops.

That Delonghi apparatus is what K-mart sell to the people who have no understanding what so ever about the espresso. Try to do this with it:

You see, in your pressurised port a filter there is one tiny little hole, and coffee is forced through it by pressure, so coffee is literally sprayed through the filter to the cup. That make your coffee lot more bitter and harsh. In that video you see how the coffee is filtered without forcing, just by using right amount of coffee grinned to the perfect particle size. This kind of espresso is smooth as silk, not bitter at all and you have every bit of the aromas what that coffee bean can offer.

[tom joad]

do you espresso enthusiasts basically always choose espresso over regular brewed coffee? (whether at home or out and about?)

[wes]

Fuck me none of you can make a decent cup of coffee by the sounds of things.  You NEVER grind your coffee the night before, infact if you don't use it in 10 minutes it goes in the bin.

Use filtered water, good coffee beans, pressurized port a filter, steel tamper not the plastic one in the box.  Grind fresh using only a burr grinder and use different size grinds for different pours.  You should get a good crema that holds up to being stirred. 
I use a delonghi burr grinder and a delonghi dedica ec680.   Favourite roast is Columbia superior and of course Jamaican blue mountain coffee (though 90% of it in the USA is fake).

Sounds like a lotta` work to me.

[Grape Ape]

Let me know how the cold brew thing works out, I fancied trying it my self, if I recall correctly you make a big jug up and keep it in the fridge and just warm it up when u need a cup.

Finally got around to trying it.  You are correct.  What you get is a big jug of concentrate.  You can add a shot or two to cold/hot water.

It actually works - the coffee has the overall smoothness that you get when you order it at Starbucks/DD.

The only issue is that it takes time and effort (1st problem of peace).   I will stick with it, likely more in the summer to have the iced coffee on hand.

[tom joad]

any of you guys hop on board the Bulletproof coffee hype (the last few years) and give it a whirl?

[Grape Ape]

any of you guys hop on board the Bulletproof coffee hype (the last few years) and give it a whirl?

Have tried it.  It's delicious.

But I'm not about to substitute breakfast of coffee, butter, and oil.

[tom joad]

Have tried it.  It's delicious.

But I'm not about to substitute breakfast of coffee, butter, and oil.

(with all those cals) I guess it's an either-or proposition.

[El Diablo Blanco]

If that makes you happy, why not. Just for clearing things up: There is some different categories of the espresso machines:

1. El Cheapo piece of crap machines you can buy everywhere, petrol stations etc.
2. Market machines which you can buy from K-mart etc.
3. Real espresso machines, which you can buy from speciality- shops.

That Delonghi apparatus is what K-mart sell to the people who have no understanding what so ever about the espresso. Try to do this with it:

You see, in your pressurised port a filter there is one tiny little hole, and coffee is forced through it by pressure, so coffee is literally sprayed through the filter to the cup. That make your coffee lot more bitter and harsh. In that video you see how the coffee is filtered without forcing, just by using right amount of coffee grinned to the perfect particle size. This kind of espresso is smooth as silk, not bitter at all and you have every bit of the aromas what that coffee bean can offer.

That video is hypnotic, I bet that's what it looks like when my anus spews wet shits.

[SilverSpoon]

Lots of cons to the "naked" portafilter.

That was all the rage about 10 years ago, but has largely died out.

I used one for many years, but have switched back.  Used it exclusively when I had an Andreja Premium Espresso machine.

Since I went to the Alex Duetto (mine is version 3, they are up to 4 now), I use the traditional portafilter.

I will say that the naked portafilter makes one learn proper tamping methods/pressure.

[JCL]

Tim hortons 2-4x a day. Usually a medium regular coffee in the morning, and a few decafs throughout the day.

Waste of money.  I gotta stop.

[DroppingPlates]

any of you guys hop on board the Bulletproof coffee hype (the last few years) and give it a whirl?

Haven't tried it, but I don't believe the hype about it when Dave Asprey claims that most other coffee brands are loaded with molds.

[El Diablo Blanco]

any of you guys hop on board the Bulletproof coffee hype (the last few years) and give it a whirl?

Yeah, tried it for a week.  Game me horrible stomach cramps.  Of course he claims it gives him lots of energy but that is because that fucker is amped on all sorts of amphetamines and Adderal alternatives

[Yamcha]

That video is hypnotic, I bet that's what it looks like when my anus spews wet shits.

you read my mind.

why are we thinking about anuses spewing hot liquid? no homo, i assume

[Grape Ape]

Haven't tried it, but I don't believe the hype about it when Dave Asprey claims that most other coffee brands are loaded with molds.

Agree here.

I tried it with a reqular coffee, once with coconut oil, once with MCT.   Coconut oil made me shit.

He's a complete biohacker though, like EDB said, and is loaded with supps, so who knows what actually works?

[local hero]

Finally got around to trying it.  You are correct.  What you get is a big jug of concentrate.  You can add a shot or two to cold/hot water.

It actually works - the coffee has the overall smoothness that you get when you order it at Starbucks/DD.

The only issue is that it takes time and effort (1st problem of peace).   I will stick with it, likely more in the summer to have the iced coffee on hand.

So it tastes good... I'll get round to this eventualy, very quik and convenient once its brewed up sltjo thevset up may be a faff on

[Grape Ape]

So it tastes good... I'll get round to this eventualy, very quik and convenient once its brewed up sltjo thevset up may be a faff on

It tastes excellent.

Did you fall down the stairs while typing the end of your sentence, or are you like,  really foreign?

[El Diablo Blanco]

So it tastes good... I'll get round to this eventualy, very quik and convenient once its brewed up sltjo thevset up may be a faff on

It's great and this brewer is awesome.

http://bodybrew.com/

No, it's not a link about fit black guys.  I like how easy it is to use.

[DroppingPlates]

Agree here.

I tried it with a reqular coffee, once with coconut oil, once with MCT.   Coconut oil made me shit.

He's a complete biohacker though, like EDB said, and is loaded with supps, so who knows what actually works?

Ha, same experience here though the taste was great.

I've listened to his talks about biohacking, which is def an interesting topic to follow. Dave is a flamboyant guy with a strong conviction, but some of his claims lack scientific backup like the mold claim for example..

[stuntmovie]

DROP, I am a shitty wine connoisseur and even shittier when it comes to coffee.

Any cup full of hot coffee is fine by me.

But my favorite coffee 'experience' was that shitty cup of hot Navy coffee after week long spell in a jungle during monsoon season.

That shitty cup of Navy coffee was priceless!

I once purchased a very expensive wine collection and served it to some Hollywood movie friends during a Thanksgiving dinner.

They were amazed to be drinking that wine and really enjoyed it  while I continued to enjoy my Two Buck Chuck  .... which is now Three Buck Chuck but no better than the  Two Buck bottle

I am not a well trained coffee or fine wine connoisseur but it's good to see that others are and enjoy what  I consider to be the the little things  that most of us take for granted every day.

[Ropo]

Lots of cons to the "naked" portafilter.

That was all the rage about 10 years ago, but has largely died out.

I used one for many years, but have switched back.  Used it exclusively when I had an Andreja Premium Espresso machine.

Since I went to the Alex Duetto (mine is version 3, they are up to 4 now), I use the traditional portafilter.

I will say that the naked portafilter makes one learn proper tamping methods/pressure.

Ok. Name one?

[SilverSpoon]

Ok. Name one?

Ropo, I would reference taste as being the main reason.

I am not looking for an argument.  Realize that coffee is a very serious hobby for me, as I have what many believe to be the best home/light commercial machine (the Alex Duetto).  Prior to that I had the Andreja Premium (awesome machine that I modded the heck out of, but it was not PID nor did it have a double boiler, so it was limited in that regard).

I used a naked portafilter exclusively for approximately 7 years, and it made me have a tamping technique that would work in the finest of coffee shops (if you ever want to get great beans, PM me, as I am very close friends with an individual who is revered as one of the best roasters in the world).

For whatever reason, the traditional portafilter tastes better to me.  Now, there is a serious drawback to the traditional portafilter, the main one being that you have to clean the portafilter regularly, as each shot can leave residue, which also makes the basket dirty.

But to me, taste is what it is all about.  You can have all of the academic techniques/analysis/etc. but for me, it all comes down to taste.

[Ropo]

Ropo, I would reference taste as being the main reason.

I am not looking for an argument.  Realize that coffee is a very serious hobby for me, as I have what many believe to be the best home/light commercial machine (the Alex Duetto).  Prior to that I had the Andreja Premium (awesome machine that I modded the heck out of, but it was not PID nor did it have a double boiler, so it was limited in that regard).

I used a naked portafilter exclusively for approximately 7 years, and it made me have a tamping technique that would work in the finest of coffee shops (if you ever want to get great beans, PM me, as I am very close friends with an individual who is revered as one of the best roasters in the world).

For whatever reason, the traditional portafilter tastes better to me.  Now, there is a serious drawback to the traditional portafilter, the main one being that you have to clean the portafilter regularly, as each shot can leave residue, which also makes the basket dirty.

But to me, taste is what it is all about.  You can have all of the academic techniques/analysis/etc. but for me, it all comes down to taste.

Ok. So you are saying that coffee taste difference if you have pressed it through these:



compared to this:

https://www.bellabarista.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/e/c/ecm-gran-crema-porta-filter-holder.jpg

??

For real?

I wonder why, because it is a same filter, same temperature, same pressure etc. and it just holds one cup more and you don't have that funny little nozzle under the port a filter. It comes down to taste, or imagined difference of taste. How often you wash your port a filter? There is people like me, who use naked one, people who rinse it after every use, and wash it weekly, to the people who never wash it. There is your difference of taste, because coffee is filled with aromatic oils which cover your port a filter and become rancid within days