Dorian Yates Blood and Guts 6 week challenge

[illuminati]

On a serious note, most bodybuilders don't do enough warming up.

Compare the avg bodybuilder  to any serious powerlifter or sprinter's warm up routine.
Always impresses me how much most pro athletes need to warm up before the game.

OK, serious question/concern for you and anyone else that can offer a serious reply.

I can already see , without a future contest to shoot for , my intensity and desire will fade.
Hmmm, I wish  I could be motivated to train WITHOUT  competing, but it's not happening.

I'm a long way from contest condition, but 8 months of serious diet and training would change that.

Suggestions?

Come on your not thick...
Create your own goals to achieve at set intervals
Use some mind training techniques

Just plain get fired up & inspired.

[DroppingPlates]

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X2

[8 INCH not biceps]

fuckwit

lets say he deadlifts with just a bar or uses a low back machine with high intensity
Now, who will have the bigger and stronger low back?

The reason why you gave such a ridiculous and childish response is because you know I am right, you could only do deadlifts and build overall size and strength that could not be done on a lower back machine.

[Howard]

Come on your not thick...
Create your own goals to achieve at set intervals
Use some mind training techniques

Just plain get fired up & inspired.

I was hesitant to post my "motivation issues" because I didn't want to bore anyone.
But wtf, threads on pooping in the gym get posted, so I don't feel too awkward.

Here's my dilemma in a nutshell ( or nut sac if you prefer):

20-40 years ago, I was motivated as fuk to be a bodybuilder.
One of my problems was a lack of  $$, resources, etc.

Now, I've got gym access and extra $$ to go "balls to wall" on my bodybuilding.
Problem is, I don't give a fuk or find my bodybuilding to be very important.

It's like sitting on the best gym  toilet and only farting .

[illuminati]

I was hesitant to post my "motivation issues" because I didn't want to bore anyone.
But wtf, threads on pooping in the gym get posted, so I don't feel too awkward.

Here's my dilemma in a nutshell ( or nut sac if you prefer):

20-40 years ago, I was motivated as fuk to be a bodybuilder.
One of my problems was a lack of  $$, resources, etc.

Now, I've got gym access and extra $$ to go "balls to wall" on my bodybuilding.
Problem is, I don't give a fuk or find my bodybuilding to be very important.




Yes I follow that.
Now you got the $ & the time - Just not into / motivated.

Start with a simple question to yourself- -
Do I want to improve myself physically ---- Yes / No ?

If Yes it's 1st step
If No Then Stay as you are
Either way be Happy.

[Howard]

Thanks illuminati.

I last stuffed my junk into a posing thong 21 years ago...yikes.
Damn, that was at least 5 wives ago.

I hate to sound like a total douche, but, I'm happy now walking on the treadmill.
I also use a few machines and feel pretty good .
Fuk me, maybe I should join Planet Fatass and go on a Jennie Craig diet plan?

Then, buy my wife a 9" black strap-on and let her mount me.

[8 INCH not biceps]

I was hesitant to post my "motivation issues" because I didn't want to bore anyone.
But wtf, threads on pooping in the gym get posted, so I don't feel too awkward.

Here's my dilemma in a nutshell ( or nut sac if you prefer):

20-40 years ago, I was motivated as fuk to be a bodybuilder.
One of my problems was a lack of  $$, resources, etc.

Now, I've got gym access and extra $$ to go "balls to wall" on my bodybuilding.
Problem is, I don't give a fuk or find my bodybuilding to be very important.

It's like sitting on the best gym  toilet and only farting .

I think you lost your motivation because of marriage I notice a lot of people when they get married they get out of shape because in their heads they dont have to look attractive anymore since they are off the market, when you are single and you want to hook up with younger girls you have to be in shape to pull it off, maybe you should get a divorce that will should motivate you.

[illuminati]

Thanks illuminati.

I last stuffed my junk into a posing thong 21 years ago...yikes.
Damn, that was at least 5 wives ago.

I hate to sound like a total douche, but, I'm happy now walking on the treadmill.
I also use a few machines and feel pretty good .
Fuk me, maybe I should join Planet Fatass and go on a Jennie Craig diet plan?

Then, buy my wife a 9" black strap-on and let her mount me.

Well there you go... You said it.... Your Happy using the treadmill & using some machines.
And nowt wrong with that.
Plus your feeling pretty good.

There you go - you have some motivation already doing what your doing.

Maybe if you weren't Happy & Feeling Good -- You'd be more motivated to train harder
Do more.

But you are - That's Good.

[jr]

Ronnie is better than Dorian, so do Ronnie's workout routine because it is better than Dorian's for building big huge muscles on the body.

[Simple Simon]

The reason why you gave such a ridiculous and childish response is because you know I am right, you could only do deadlifts and build overall size and strength that could not be done on a lower back machine.

because one is a compound exercise and one is an isolation exercise.

Fuck me you are trying really hard to be this dumb.

[Howard]

I think you lost your motivation because of marriage I notice a lot of people when they get married they get out of shape because in their heads they dont have to look attractive anymore since they are off the market, when you are single and you want to hook up with younger girls you have to be in shape to pull it off, maybe you should get a divorce that will should motivate you.

Good , thoughtful reply but doesn't apply to me.

I've really been married 4x and hope this is the last time .
I was married to some wife, most of the time I was a competitive bodybuilder.

My personal love life with any wife was never a problem.

[Howard]

Well there you go... You said it.... Your Happy using the treadmill & using some machines.
And nowt wrong with that.
Plus your feeling pretty good.

There you go - you have some motivation already doing what your doing.

Maybe if you weren't Happy & Feeling Good -- You'd be more motivated to train harder
Do more.

But you are - That's Good.

Excellent reply and helpful insight. Thanks!

My current laid back training attitude may simply be age and a content lifestyle?
Competing in contests, was always a good experience and provided me with a lot of motivation.

[Trev]

I was hesitant to post my "motivation issues" because I didn't want to bore anyone.
But wtf, threads on pooping in the gym get posted, so I don't feel too awkward.

Here's my dilemma in a nutshell ( or nut sac if you prefer):

20-40 years ago, I was motivated as fuk to be a bodybuilder.
One of my problems was a lack of  $$, resources, etc.

Now, I've got gym access and extra $$ to go "balls to wall" on my bodybuilding.
Problem is, I don't give a fuk or find my bodybuilding to be very important.

It's like sitting on the best gym  toilet and only farting .

Thanks for your comment - I am in the same boat as you but as a non competitor who was always natural the backing off has actually improved my physique

I get on with life and am basically a hard core bodybuilder for just 2 x 80 minute sessions a week. Its a bit like "Home" as its just me in the gym just the way I have been since I was 16. I love it but once done I am done

Diet too - Gave all all supplements apart from a multi-vitamin and still more gains came. I love eggs and chicken so have these every day so I know I am getting more than enough protein.

SO many youngsters on here over-training and blowing all their money on supplements and/or drugs - such a waste. Enjoy life and hit the gym hard twice a week :-)

[Grape Ape]

I was hesitant to post my "motivation issues" because I didn't want to bore anyone.

Never stopped you before.

[Henda]

Howard's couch would have to be on fire before he considers dragging his fat greasy body off it, even then it's a big maybe

[Howard]

Howard's couch would have to be on fire before he considers dragging his fat greasy body off it, even then it's a big maybe

LOL, hahahaha  "couch would have to be on fire" 

I swear to GOD, I have a twin, power recliner in my man cave.

My new dog and I sit side by side, in attached separate recliners, watching games in comfort.
It goes without saying we look pretty damn fat and lazy while reclining.

[Howard]

Never stopped you before.

It's like taking a dump.
It  stinks, but, you feel moved deep inside ,to do it again...and again.

[oldtimer1]

A mention was made  of Frank Calta's rotation for recuperation routine that Mike Mentzer used during his prime. Frank had an article about it in the old Iron Man prior to Mentzer using it. That was my best routine in my youth. Made great gains using it.

I made really good gains using a variation of Yates routine about 10 years ago but I tend to burn out on it. Warming up and going balls to the wall for one set is mentally taxing. I kept a journal and it always was a goal to add one rep or weight. Training becomes really hellish.  I have found it's consistency of working out over trying to get constantly stronger for an older trainer gets the best results.

This was my Yates routine. I also ran 2 to 3 miles 3 to 4 times a week in addition. Made really good changes to my body in 4 weeks but I burned my self out. Needed a week off.  No warms are listed. They were done as needed. Rep range was the goal but naturally I reached failure higher or lower. Started on week one for example with bench with a weight that I reached failure at 10 reps. One week 4 it with added weight 6 reps to failure.

Chest and bicep: Monday

Bench 1 x 8
Incline bar bench 1 x 8
Dumbbell incline bench 1 x 8
flat flies 1 x 10

barbell curl 1 x 10
alternate dumbbell curl 1 x 8
Single pulley curl 1 x 12
concentration curl 1 x 12

forearms wrist curl 1 x 20
reverse wrist extension 1 x 15

Hanging leg ab raise 1x max
Pulley ab crunch 1 x max

Tuesday: legs

Leg press 1 x 15
squats 1 x 10
machine squat 1x10
leg extensions 1 x 20
seated leg curl 1 x 15
standing leg curl 1 x 12

hanging ab leg raise 1 x max
Pulley abs 1 x max

leg press calf 1 x 25
standing calf 1 x 15
seated calf 1 x 15

Neck

Wednesday off:

Thursday: Back

Power cleans 3 x 3 then 1 x 1
deadlifts 1 x 8
stiff deads 1 x 6
Pull ups 1 x max
seated lat cable rows with V handle 1 x 12
dumbbell row off bench 1 x 10
reverse pulldown 1 x 10
weighted back hyper extensions 1 x 15
weighted floor crunches 1 x 50

Friday: Delt and triceps

Press behind neck 1 x 8
dumbbell shoulder press 1 x 10
dumbbell delt laterals 1 x 10
one arm delt pulley laterals 1 x 10
rear delt dumbbells 1 x 10
barbell shrugs 1 x 10

Weighted dips 1 x 10
traditional tricep pushdowns 1 x 10
skull crushers 1 x 8
rev grip D handle pulley triceps 1 x 12

weighted crunches 1 x 50
pulley crunches 1 x 20

[Simple Simon]

why have you bothered to write all that shit?

[DroppingPlates]

why have you bothered to write all that shit?

Same situation as Stunt, retired

[oldtimer1]

I actually had a job where I had to type extended reports. I can type pretty fast. Didn't take more than 5 minutes. I am retired but I do have a retirement job.

[8 INCH not biceps]

A mention was made  of Frank Calta's rotation for recuperation routine that Mike Mentzer used during his prime. Frank had an article about it in the old Iron Man prior to Mentzer using it. That was my best routine in my youth. Made great gains using it.

I made really good gains using a variation of Yates routine about 10 years ago but I tend to burn out on it. Warming up and going balls to the wall for one set is mentally taxing. I kept a journal and it always was a goal to add one rep or weight. Training becomes really hellish.  I have found it's consistency of working out over trying to get constantly stronger for an older trainer gets the best results.

This was my Yates routine. I also ran 2 to 3 miles 3 to 4 times a week in addition. Made really good changes to my body in 4 weeks but I burned my self out. Needed a week off.  No warms are listed. They were done as needed. Rep range was the goal but naturally I reached failure higher or lower. Started on week one for example with bench with a weight that I reached failure at 10 reps. One week 4 it with added weight 6 reps to failure.

Chest and bicep: Monday

Bench 1 x 8
Incline bar bench 1 x 8
Dumbbell incline bench 1 x 8
flat flies 1 x 10

barbell curl 1 x 10
alternate dumbbell curl 1 x 8
Single pulley curl 1 x 12
concentration curl 1 x 12

forearms wrist curl 1 x 20
reverse wrist extension 1 x 15

Hanging leg ab raise 1x max
Pulley ab crunch 1 x max

Tuesday: legs

Leg press 1 x 15
squats 1 x 10
machine squat 1x10
leg extensions 1 x 20
seated leg curl 1 x 15
standing leg curl 1 x 12

hanging ab leg raise 1 x max
Pulley abs 1 x max

leg press calf 1 x 25
standing calf 1 x 15
seated calf 1 x 15

Neck

Wednesday off:

Thursday: Back

Power cleans 3 x 3 then 1 x 1
deadlifts 1 x 8
stiff deads 1 x 6
Pull ups 1 x max
seated lat cable rows with V handle 1 x 12
dumbbell row off bench 1 x 10
reverse pulldown 1 x 10
weighted back hyper extensions 1 x 15
weighted floor crunches 1 x 50

Friday: Delt and triceps

Press behind neck 1 x 8
dumbbell shoulder press 1 x 10
dumbbell delt laterals 1 x 10
one arm delt pulley laterals 1 x 10
rear delt dumbbells 1 x 10
barbell shrugs 1 x 10

Weighted dips 1 x 10
traditional tricep pushdowns 1 x 10
skull crushers 1 x 8
rev grip D handle pulley triceps 1 x 12

weighted crunches 1 x 50
pulley crunches 1 x 20

You burnt out because you are severely overtrained unless you are a genetic freak with super recovery ability on a boatload of drugs you cant survive on this program, what you should have done is after each session take two days off before going back to the gym, that is what I do and I have been on HIT for months now with no burning out.

[pellius]

Fair enough, but seriously, this is my step 1 return to real bodybuilding training and diet.

Once I get thru the first 6 weeks of following a routine without extra thought, I'll be on my way.

But seriously, no.

We will get a long rambling post asking us why you failed.

[pellius]

Thanks illuminati.

I last stuffed my junk into a posing thong 21 years ago...yikes.
Damn, that was at least 5 wives ago.

I hate to sound like a total douche, but, I'm happy now walking on the treadmill.
I also use a few machines and feel pretty good .
Fuk me, maybe I should join Planet Fatass and go on a Jennie Craig diet plan?

Then, buy my wife a 9" black strap-on and let her mount me.

"don't want to sound like a bore but...."
"don't want to sound like a douche but..."
"buy my wife a 9" strap on and let her mount me...."

FFS Howard! Just listen to yourself! Didn't you say you were a Marine?

[BBSSchlemiel]

I was hesitant to post my "motivation issues" because I didn't want to bore anyone.
But wtf, threads on pooping in the gym get posted, so I don't feel too awkward.

Here's my dilemma in a nutshell ( or nut sac if you prefer):

20-40 years ago, I was motivated as fuk to be a bodybuilder.
One of my problems was a lack of  $$, resources, etc.

Now, I've got gym access and extra $$ to go "balls to wall" on my bodybuilding.
Problem is, I don't give a fuk or find my bodybuilding to be very important.

It's like sitting on the best gym  toilet and only farting .

How many times have you told this stupid story! I believe you're a resentful fuck because bodybuilding did not give back to you what you expected out of it: becoming pro, getting loads of attention, or whatever else you expected.