WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???

[andreisdaman]

Its really really weird how now that Obama is no longer president, EVERYBODY ABSOLUTELY LOVES Obamacare!!!!...all those Republicans who absolutely hated Obamacare, both politicians and constituents, are screaming and yelling to keep Obamacare....

Its obvious that everyone just hated the idea of Obama being successful...that was the REAL issue!..it always was.....it had nothing to do with the program itself...now that Obama is gone, people are not so invested in seeing him fail any more....

So now all these guys who voted for Trump are storming the national town halls and destroying the republicans over this issue....

REALLY STRANGE................

[Nick Danger]

Obamacare has its share of problems but providing healthcare to a population of that size will always have problems. It's easy to call something a disaster, creating a solution is the hard part.

Health care is expensive...

[andreisdaman]

Obamacare has its share of problems but providing healthcare to a population of that size will always have problems. It's easy to call something a disaster, creating a solution is the hard part.

Health care is expensive...

Agreed....all programs have problems when they start....social security and Medicaid had initial problems as well...its quite normal actually

[TuHolmes]

The problem with Obamacare is the mandate.

However, if we are going to be honest with ourselves as a nation, you will not be able to create a national healthcare system and use private insurance companies without the mandate.

You have to have the young people who never get sick, forced to pay for it, so that those who do get sick, can be covered.

There is no other mechanism to do so other than single payer healthcare systems and that is always going to be called "socialist".

You can't have it both ways. People just don't want to admit it.

It's easy to pull an Ivan Drago and say "If they die, they die.", but we believe ourselves as a nation to be "better" than that.

[andreisdaman]

"if they did...they die"...good line......completely sums up the feelings of some detractors of the law

Yes the mandate is the key.....but the fact is every social program is funded on the backs of the working young.....social security being one....and even Medicaid since I always see that medicare tax on my paystub...

[TuHolmes]

No disagreement that this is pretty much par for the course when it comes to social programs.

That's what these things are. That's not to say they are bad or good, but that's just what they are.

Either we, as a nation, believe we should take the bad with the good, or we don't.

That's all there is to it.

[Soul Crusher]

Only people on welfare like obamacare

[mazrim]

No, only the new age republicans like it/are spineless to do what is right due to the backlash of those who will make a lot of noise if they aren't provided for by everyone else.

You are right that they seem to basically support it now after voting to get rid of it knowing Obama wouldn't sign off, but when the time comes to step up they are backing down again.

[Howard]

Obamacare has its share of problems but providing healthcare to a population of that size will always have problems. It's easy to call something a disaster, creating a solution is the hard part.

Health care is expensive...

This x 100 !

[obsidian]

No, only the new age republicans like it/are spineless to do what is right due to the backlash of those who will make a lot of noise if they aren't provided for by everyone else.

You are right that they seem to basically support it now after voting to get rid of it knowing Obama wouldn't sign off, but when the time comes to step up they are backing down again.

That's because they are cuckservatives. Another reason why Trump is the President. They failed to grasp that people are sick and tired of weak cucks! We want a President that will go against the corrupt system. Trump is the guy!! Trump Trump Trump!!!!!

[AbrahamG]

The problem with Obamacare is the mandate.

However, if we are going to be honest with ourselves as a nation, you will not be able to create a national healthcare system and use private insurance companies without the mandate.

You have to have the young people who never get sick, forced to pay for it, so that those who do get sick, can be covered.

There is no other mechanism to do so other than single payer healthcare systems and that is always going to be called "socialist".

You can't have it both ways. People just don't want to admit it.

It's easy to pull an Ivan Drago and say "If they die, they die.", but we believe ourselves as a nation to be "better" than that.

Bingo!  Because those young people will one day be old and get sick and when they do, they'll be damn glad they invested in their own future.

[Yamcha]

Let's get rid of the one that's falling apart...



... and replace it with a piece of shit.

[Dos Equis]

Its really really weird how now that Obama is no longer president, EVERYBODY ABSOLUTELY LOVES Obamacare!!!!...all those Republicans who absolutely hated Obamacare, both politicians and constituents, are screaming and yelling to keep Obamacare....

Its obvious that everyone just hated the idea of Obama being successful...that was the REAL issue!..it always was.....it had nothing to do with the program itself...now that Obama is gone, people are not so invested in seeing him fail any more....

So now all these guys who voted for Trump are storming the national town halls and destroying the republicans over this issue....

REALLY STRANGE................

What??  Which Republicans are screaming and yelling to keep Obamacare?  The bill that was just introduced isn't even going to get enough Republican support to pass the House because a lot of Republicans think it doesn't go far enough in getting rid of Obamacare.  

[Yamcha]

What??  Which Republicans are screaming and yelling to keep Obamacare?  The bill that was just introduced isn't even going to get enough Republican support to pass the House because a lot of Republicans think it doesn't go far enough in getting rid of Obamacare.  

[chaos]

Its really really weird how now that Obama is no longer president, EVERYBODY ABSOLUTELY LOVES Obamacare!!!!...all those Republicans who absolutely hated Obamacare, both politicians and constituents, are screaming and yelling to keep Obamacare....

Its obvious that everyone just hated the idea of Obama being successful...that was the REAL issue!..it always was.....it had nothing to do with the program itself...now that Obama is gone, people are not so invested in seeing him fail any more....

So now all these guys who voted for Trump are storming the national town halls and destroying the republicans over this issue....

REALLY STRANGE................

I have yet to meet a person in real life that likes, let alone loves, Obamacare.

[TuHolmes]

I have yet to meet a person in real life that likes, let alone loves, Obamacare.

Whether it exists or not it most likely won't change my insurance or the costs. Not enough
To notice anyway.

I am not a fan of the ACA, but I always ask... when was the last time a government program on that scale was ever removed?

Social Security, Medicare, The military budget. They all go up and never get slowed down.

I expect this to be the same.

[andreisdaman]

Only people on welfare like obamacare

I guess all those white people destroying the Republicans at the town halls are on welfare???

[andreisdaman]

No, only the new age republicans like it/are spineless to do what is right due to the backlash of those who will make a lot of noise if they aren't provided for by everyone else.

You are right that they seem to basically support it now after voting to get rid of it knowing Obama wouldn't sign off, but when the time comes to step up they are backing down again.

ok..I'll buy that....

[andreisdaman]

That's because they are cuckservatives. Another reason why Trump is the President. They failed to grasp that people are sick and tired of weak cucks! We want a President that will go against the corrupt system. Trump is the guy!! Trump Trump Trump!!!!!

using outright lies to go up against a "corrupt system" isn't a good start

[andreisdaman]

Bingo!  Because those young people will one day be old and get sick and when they do, they'll be damn glad they invested in their own future.

Absolutely true...  excellent point

[andreisdaman]

What??  Which Republicans are screaming and yelling to keep Obamacare?  The bill that was just introduced isn't even going to get enough Republican support to pass the House because a lot of Republicans think it doesn't go far enough in getting rid of Obamacare. 

WOW!!!...you must be ignoring all those guys like Rand Paul who have totally backed off on really repealing Obamacare......its obvious that many just want to keep most of it and just change the name

[Soul Crusher]

I guess all those white people destroying the Republicans at the town halls are on welfare???

Yes - i know a bunch of white people on welfare - its not only your kind who abuse the system. 

[mazrim]

WOW!!!...you must be ignoring all those guys like Rand Paul who have totally backed off on really repealing Obamacare......its obvious that many just want to keep most of it and just change the name

Isn't Rand the one going around calling this "Obamacare lite" saying he won't vote for it? Not denying that a lot have done this but a lot haven't as well. Don't think Rand is one who supports it, though, unless I missed something.

[Yamcha]

Paul Ryan was just on TV trying to pitch his plan.

I hate Paul Ryan. I hate this proposal. Both should be thrown in the trash

[Dos Equis]

WOW!!!...you must be ignoring all those guys like Rand Paul who have totally backed off on really repealing Obamacare......its obvious that many just want to keep most of it and just change the name

You mean this Rand Paul who said this today? 

“The Republican Party is unified on Obamacare repeal,” Paul said in a statement Thursday. “We can honor our promise right away by passing the same language we acted on in the last Congress. Then, we can have a separate vote on replacement legislation that will deliver lower costs, better care, and greater access to the American people.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obamacare-repeal-rand-paul-introduces-171952368.html

I don't know if you are dishonest or just incredibly uninformed.  I'm thinking it might be both.