Author Topic: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???  (Read 8787 times)

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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2017, 02:44:50 PM »
under the proposed trumpcare a 64 year old man making less than 27 k will have to pay 14,600 dollars for the same insurance that 1700 dollars bought under obamacare according to the CBO...progress you tell me.....what happened to everyone is covered for a fraction of the cost of obamacare i remember an orange haired fellow saying this a few months ago.... alternative facts i guess..

Pretty misleading graphic. 

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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2017, 02:47:51 PM »
There you go.  But I notice that it hasn't stopped the misrepresentations about the subject (see the graphic Funk posted).

Trump said he'd give his salary to the Treasury or to charity, when he was called out on it the spin was to donate at year's end.

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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2017, 02:56:15 PM »
Trump said he'd give his salary to the Treasury or to charity, when he was called out on it the spin was to donate at year's end.

Petty. 

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« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2017, 03:03:50 PM »
Petty. 
Las Vegas called it misrepresentation.

With Trump's charitable history, it's not really all that petty.

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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2017, 03:18:49 PM »
Trump said he'd give his salary to the Treasury or to charity, when he was called out on it the spin was to donate at year's end.

Can you give the exact quote or quotes?  I'll try to find it/them in a few, otherwise.

Not trying to cover for Trump, here, either.  I really don't know what to think about any of it right now.

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« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2017, 03:21:39 PM »
Las Vegas called it misrepresentation.

With Trump's charitable history, it's not really all that petty.

No, I mean that the graphic says that he's "accepted" his checks (similar), as though anything else could be expected.  Hell yes, he's to accept his checks.  We can't have it any other way.

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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2017, 03:28:29 PM »
It is indeed 400,000 btw.

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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2017, 03:30:41 PM »
Las Vegas called it misrepresentation.

With Trump's charitable history, it's not really all that petty.

It's absolutely petty.  What difference does it make if he donates it every month or at the end of the year?

What charitable history are you talking about?

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« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2017, 03:51:04 PM »
Wow, what a Sea of Shit with this media.  They're all RACING to blindly attack without a care in the world for what they're supposed to be doing.

Stuff like "Trump says he will donate salary, despite pledge not to take one" lmfao, and that looks to come from ABC.

But here's the quote.  To Reuters: "The first thing I'm going to do is tell you that if I'm elected president, I'm accepting no salary, OK?" Trump said. "That's no big deal for me."  

He should have just said right from the beginning that he'll donate it, and that way no one could twist everything to hell and back.

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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2017, 03:53:34 PM »
Yeah, I will admit he brings a lot of this onto himself.

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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2017, 11:35:21 AM »
This is why I asked you if you use drugs.  You claimed Republicans, including Rand Paul, are in love with Obamacare.  I posted a quote from Rand Paul from just the other day confirming he wants Obamacare repealed. 

Anyone paying even half attention to the folks in DC can see Republicans are trying to repeal Obamacare and are not in love with it.  I should slap myself for even responding to this garbage. 

Fair enough...but they REALLY aren't trying to appeal Obamacare...they are trying to change it somewhat and then put someone else's name on it....Republicans have been saying for years that they already had a replacement.....whicvh was a lie..where is it?

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« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2017, 11:40:59 AM »
Spicer said Trump will donate all of his presidential salary at the end of the year and he wants the media to help him decide the recipient. 

we all know how credible Spicer is so this must be true

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« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2017, 11:41:45 AM »
Las Vegas called it misrepresentation.

With Trump's charitable history, it's not really all that petty.

Agreed

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« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2017, 11:42:57 AM »
It's absolutely petty.  What difference does it make if he donates it every month or at the end of the year?

What charitable history are you talking about?

Didn't you see where for many years it was discovered that Trump gave absolutely NOTHING to charity?

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« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2017, 12:39:16 PM »
Didn't you see where for many years it was discovered that Trump gave absolutely NOTHING to charity?

Please link to the confirmation of that.

I read this in Forbes last week:

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During the campaign, some had questioned just how much Trump had given away to charity. That still remains a mystery.
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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2017, 12:53:49 PM »
Please link to the confirmation of that.

I read this in Forbes last week:


I'd like to see a link too, or is andre lying yet again?

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« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2017, 12:58:51 PM »
I'd like to see a link too, or is andre lying yet again?

Maybe he has something, but likely not.

And that's the problem and why I stay out of most political threads - most just parrot what fits their agenda and ignore the rest.

Both the left and right are guilty of this.  But if people just took the time to provide back up to their points, it would be much better.
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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2017, 01:03:18 PM »
Maybe he has something, but likely not.

And that's the problem and why I stay out of most political threads - most just parrot what fits their agenda and ignore the rest.

Both the left and right are guilty of this.  But if people just took the time to provide back up to their points, it would be much better.

Completely agree. 

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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2017, 01:22:23 PM »
Completely agree. 

You should see the emails I get from Andre

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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2017, 01:54:43 PM »
You should see the emails I get from Andre

Is he threatening to try and rape you again?   :-\

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« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2017, 02:05:19 PM »
Las Vegas called it misrepresentation.

With Trump's charitable history, it's not really all that petty.


Trump promised millions to charity. We found less than $10,000 over 7 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-promised-millions-to-charity-we-found-less-than-10000-over-7-years/2016/06/28/cbab5d1a-37dd-11e6-8f7c-d4c723a2becb_story.html?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.fb558cb1e48d


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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2017, 02:07:18 PM »
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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2017, 02:08:19 PM »
Wow, what a Sea of Shit with this media.  They're all RACING to blindly attack without a care in the world for what they're supposed to be doing.

Stuff like "Trump says he will donate salary, despite pledge not to take one" lmfao, and that looks to come from ABC.

But here's the quote.  To Reuters: "The first thing I'm going to do is tell you that if I'm elected president, I'm accepting no salary, OK?" Trump said. "That's no big deal for me."  

He should have just said right from the beginning that he'll donate it, and that way no one could twist everything to hell and back.
No, he didnt realize that you have to "accept" it when he said those words. When told he had to accept it, it was amended to either donating to charity or putting back in treasury. Apparently chose charity route. Nothing wrong with what he said as there was no reason for him to research/know that is the case unless you are overly concerned about the salary aspect of being president (which obviously he isnt). Lazy sheep take facebook memes as gospel apparently. Just another way to mold brains.

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Re: WITH OBAMA GONE, NOW EVERYBODY LOVES OBAMACARE...I WONDER WHY???
« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2017, 02:35:44 PM »

Trump promised millions to charity. We found less than $10,000 over 7 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-promised-millions-to-charity-we-found-less-than-10000-over-7-years/2016/06/28/cbab5d1a-37dd-11e6-8f7c-d4c723a2becb_story.html?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.fb558cb1e48d



Also from your article:

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In all, when the $1 million gift to veterans is added to his giving through the Donald J. Trump Foundation, Trump has given at least $3.8 million to charity since 2001.
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