Alcohol + Opiates + Benzodiazepines

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ESF - hope you don't mind, but I thought a copy of your post in the Misfits thread would fit into the conversation here too..

Q1:  Since you were training people at this time, presumably you were in vests, T-shirts, that sort of thing - so weren't your injection marks visible?

Q2:  And since you were using this stuff to give you the energy to work this heavy schedule, when you say "If heroin were legal and regulated like ciggerettes and booze, I'd probably still use it" what would you be looking to get from it this time round?  (That sort of presumes you're not currently doing 20 hour days..)

you are falling into the trap of believing he has ever been a personal trainer....

[Taffin]

you are falling into the trap of believing he has ever been a personal trainer....

Sure, why not?  Makes no difference to anything or anyone what I believe - I just roll with it... 

[Taffin]

Interesting stuff... but Holy Sh1T! - 50,000 dead last year in the US - more than the Vietnam War!  Over 100,000 in the last 2 years FFS!! 



"Breakthrough brings non-addictive opioid alternatives a step closer

Key discovery around brain’s receptor proteins could help develop painkiller substitutes, raising hopes of an eventual end to global opioid addiction crisis

The prospect of a non-addictive alternatives to morphine and other opioids has moved a step closer as scientists say they have cracked a key challenge in developing safe and effective substitute painkillers.

Overuse of highly addictive opioids has led to a health crisis across the world, especially in the US where more than 60,000 people died after overdoses in 2016 alone; president Donald Trump has declared the epidemic a public health emergency.

Researchers looking for alternatives examined a receptor protein that interacts with opioids in the brain, and have now revealed its structure as it binds to a molecule related to morphine. While the structure of the receptor had previously been reported, this is the first time scientists have unveiled its structure as it interacts with a drug.

The development, they say, could prove pivotal. The protein, known as the kappa opioid receptor, is one of four that interacts with opioids, but – crucially – while it can trigger pain-killing effects, it is not linked to problems including constipation, addiction risk and death as a result of overdose.

“Tens of thousands of people are dying every year in the US because of opioid overdoses; in the last year more than 50,000 people died. That is as many as died in the Vietnam war in the US. It is a terrible, terrible crisis,” said Bryan Roth, co-author of the research from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill."

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jan/04/breakthrough-brings-non-addictive-opioid-alternatives-a-step-closer

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Sure, why not?  Makes no difference to anything or anyone what I believe - I just roll with it... 

why not ask him what its like to walk on the moon if thats how you feel..?

[Nether Animal]

Flying high again.

[Taffin]

why not ask him what its like to walk on the moon if thats how you feel..?

Good idea - when I do, I will - thanks for the suggestion

[Nether Animal]

http://lancasteronline.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/heroin-addicts-need-to-take-responsibility/article_34bd5274-01fc-11e8-bee8-9b7f55c1e5d3.html

[ESFitness]

you are falling into the trap of believing he has ever been a personal trainer....

I've been a PT since 2000, idiot. You seem to think I'm lying because I don't expose that part of my business to the low-life scum such as yourself on this website. I've had you pieces of shit harass my father, his partner, my sisters, and my mother. People have had contact with and over a decade... So what the fuck would stop you from affecting my business and harassing my clientele? You fucking moron. People like you who haven't done shit with their life aside from being somebody's and fucking employee dot-dot. Somebody's bitch... For your entire life. Which is fine for somebody like you with Asperger's and adult autism, so congratulations on driving your little bus or train or whatever the fuck it is and earning minimum wage your entire adult life (you forget we've seen the inside of that little piece of shit room with the green paint you always take your pictures in. No doubt that's the best, cleanest room in your house or else you wouldn't be taking pictures in there... which isn't too bad for a person with adult autism and Asperger's, no social skills, by your own admission no friends)

[ESFitness]

ESF - hope you don't mind, but I thought a copy of your post in the Misfits thread would fit into the conversation here too..

Q1:  Since you were training people at this time, presumably you were in vests, T-shirts, that sort of thing - so weren't your injection marks visible?

Q2:  And since you were using this stuff to give you the energy to work this heavy schedule, when you say "If heroin were legal and regulated like ciggerettes and booze, I'd probably still use it" what would you be looking to get from it this time round?  (That sort of presumes you're not currently doing 20 hour days..)

Yea I don't mind.

Q1- actually no, not really. Since I was big and vascular and I rotated veins. They'd scar over and collapse, but for whatever reason they never got dark and bruised like regular track marks. Back when I was shooting nubain in 2000-2001 or so I shot in my bicep veins and in the crooks of my elbow and nose would get dark and purple and scarred over just look at Tom Prince and his bicep and AC vein... Scarred up abscessed and purple as hell lol.. Mine was never THAT bad, but the left bicep vein was noticeable (in 01/02), bit clients and customers (I ran a GNC as well).. But recently (14-'16) I didn't really show any "track-marks", even as discard up and collapsed and I had to move on to shooting my neck, you never showed any track marks, so nobody knew I was using.

Q2- just overall productivity I suppose. I was making the most money I'd ever made in my life at that time. Had 6 income streams and pulling in enough to cover 8-9k a month on heroin, plus 600/month on sushi, and 1500 a month on household bills... Plus what? Like 500/month on other/misc stuff.... you'd be surprised how powerful addiction is when you can go from having $2,000 in bills a month and stressing about that , to having about 10 or $12,000 a month in bills at least and not thinking twice or worrying about it.. I just thought of a way to earn more.

...most people associate coke with "motivating" people like that, but for me it's opiates. And I should retract that statement about heroin, they can keep heroin illegal, and just make Diluadid easier to get... Nothing else works for me. Fuck oxy. I had 480mg of oxy in me when I went to jail Nov8th (took the rest of what I had from my surgery back in Aug) and it didn't do shit for me. Couldn't feel it at all... But, Diluadid worked very well while I was in the hospital that month. I'm sure you saw my vids from the hospital when I was walking around like nothing was wrong and doing biz from my hospital room. Ill take a 5mg Diluadid shot IM over any amount of Heroin. (I say "IM" because I can't do IV anymore unless it's through a PICC line or midline as all my veins are now closed up, even my neck.. when I had my midline in in the hospital they're giving me 2 mg Dilaudid every 2 hours which worked great however 2 mg IM didn't do shit LOL).

[ESFitness]

Looking for a sidegig taff?
Cooking up pills in the bathtub.
Selling them at local bars and clubs?
Why do you need all these details brother?
Dont go down the rabbithole in to the dark side. Dont go tbombz.
Self-sensor yourself and block getbig.com!

I don't know why people keep using this "bathtub" reference, none of this shit is made in a bathtub. That goes for anabolics as well. When people use the "bathtub" reference, and makes it pretty obvious that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and it voids any credibility you may have in reference to the subject you're referring to.

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I've been a PT since 2000, idiot. You seem to think I'm lying because I don't expose that part of my business to the low-life scum such as yourself on this website. I've had you pieces of shit harass my father, his partner, my sisters, and my mother. People have had contact with and over a decade... So what the fuck would stop you from affecting my business and harassing my clientele? You fucking moron. People like you who haven't done shit with their life aside from being somebody's and fucking employee dot-dot. Somebody's bitch... For your entire life. Which is fine for somebody like you with Asperger's and adult autism, so congratulations on driving your little bus or train or whatever the fuck it is and earning minimum wage your entire adult life (you forget we've seen the inside of that little piece of shit room with the green paint you always take your pictures in. No doubt that's the best, cleanest room in your house or else you wouldn't be taking pictures in there... which isn't too bad for a person with adult autism and Asperger's, no social skills, by your own admission no friends)

you dont expose it to anyone, you dont advertise , there is no mention on your insta about upcoming bootcamps and numbers.
You have zero testimonials.


you claim its all done word of mouth and on people approaching you , firstly you look like a fucking hobo, secondly you are always drunk, thirdly you look like shit, who would think you were a PT based on looks?

seriously mate, stick to the drug cartel stories, they are more believable than you being a personal trainer.

[ESFitness]

Hitting bottom is a sad reality......I drank very heavy and used drugs for 33 years.sleeping in doorways was no fun...............as yiou said each bottom gerts worse.

I agree whole hartedly that you have to want to do something reayll bad to make changes in your life as far as drugs and booze go ass well as many other things.

There's absolutely no way I could last for 33 years doing the stuff that I was doing. I dare anybody to show me somebody using more heroin than I was using (6 grams a day), and if I would start using heroin again it would likely go to 6 grams a day again. And then what? Go to 9 grams a day? How many people do you think can run 9 grams of heroin a day for any length of time before they die for whatever reasons.

... And alcohol? I was told back in 2004 that if I continue to drink like I was, I'd likely be dead possibly within 6 months, but Shirley within a year, as my pancreas was so bad. My doctor at the time was an old English fella and his nurse had been with him for 19yrs , and when he was looking at my pancreas enzymes (I had pancreatitis and was hospitalized for 10 days on a liquid only diet which meant chicken and beef broth, and sometimes I would get lime Jell-O)  

[NelsonMuntz]

Listen you dumb fuck I told you to fucking show me, show everybody here where I am wrong. "Talking out of your ass" means I don't know what I'm talking about and what I'm saying is incorrect so you dumb fucking drunk, show us where I'm incorrect.

And show me where I'm "acting" like I'm a medical doctor like I have a medical degree. You stupid motherfuckr you think you need a medical degree to know the maximum recommended dosage of Tylenol? Or you need a fucking medical degree to know that Tylenol can cause liver damage?

Nope.

You're the stereotypical ex-junkie ex-drunk who believes every other x junkie and x drunk is just like you.

I'm "no smarter than you"? Hate to break it to you moron, but when it comes to this shit I am, "smarter than you".  

You're the type of person who blindly accepts whatever the doctor tella you, as you should, because you're just plain stupid and uneducated uninformed when it comes to a lot of things. So people like you when they blindly take the medication doctor recommends that causes heart failure erectile dysfunction in sudden-death, you deserve it. All of it.

Me? I want to know what's going into my body and how it works. And I happen to understand the shit I read.

if you are so smart why do you constantly end up either in jail, rehab or the hospital on a regular basis?

That tells me you are not as smart as you think you are. Although you were smart enough to abuse the fuck out of your health insurance with your 18 cheese burgers, 14 coca colas, 42 scoops of mashed potatos and 31 different flavours of ice cream each meal.

By your logic during your most recent hospital visit you should have told the Doctors "don't do the surgery, Doc, I am ES Fitness and I may not have an MD besides my name but I have experience abusing the fuck out of every drug known to man, can tell you my tales of prowess in prison and have been to rehab with that one guy who was a cousin of Screech from Saved by the Bell and apprently he was arrogant and a bully to everyone, especially family. Plus I have CPT besides my name which means I think I am smarter than an MD like you who studies 18 hours a day for 10 years to become  a doctor so hand me the scalpel doc and I will dig out that Spider Bite Bad Abcess From the dirty Gear I make in my bathtub myself"

I honestly think you go to jail,rehab or the hospital because you get tired of microwaving t6v dinners

3..2..1 before you come back with some long ass gibberish post about how the jail,rehab or hospital had nothing to do with your lifestyle or some other fucking bullshit about your non expertise

Never  saw a guy who melts down as much as you. The only thing you are an expert as is fucking up and getting caught doing it

[NelsonMuntz]

Esfitness's great great grandpappy BSFitness meets his demise with Billy the Kid

[chess315]

Esfitness's great great grandpappy BSFitness meets his demise with Billy the Kid

I heard he just had got out of jail for riding his horse drunk right before that lol jk

[NelsonMuntz]

I heard he just had got out of jail for riding his horse drunk right before that lol jk

he had been in rehab with Billy the Kid's cousin, who said Billy was arrogant and a bully to everyone, especially the Regulators

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Yea I don't mind.

Q1- actually no, not really. Since I was big and vascular and I rotated veins. They'd scar over and collapse, but for whatever reason they never got dark and bruised like regular track marks. Back when I was shooting nubain in 2000-2001 or so I shot in my bicep veins and in the crooks of my elbow and nose would get dark and purple and scarred over just look at Tom Prince and his bicep and AC vein... Scarred up abscessed and purple as hell lol.. Mine was never THAT bad, but the left bicep vein was noticeable (in 01/02), bit clients and customers (I ran a GNC as well).. But recently (14-'16) I didn't really show any "track-marks", even as discard up and collapsed and I had to move on to shooting my neck, you never showed any track marks, so nobody knew I was using.

Q2- just overall productivity I suppose. I was making the most money I'd ever made in my life at that time. Had 6 income streams and pulling in enough to cover 8-9k a month on heroin, plus 600/month on sushi, and 1500 a month on household bills... Plus what? Like 500/month on other/misc stuff.... you'd be surprised how powerful addiction is when you can go from having $2,000 in bills a month and stressing about that , to having about 10 or $12,000 a month in bills at least and not thinking twice or worrying about it.. I just thought of a way to earn more.

...most people associate coke with "motivating" people like that, but for me it's opiates. And I should retract that statement about heroin, they can keep heroin illegal, and just make Diluadid easier to get... Nothing else works for me. Fuck oxy. I had 480mg of oxy in me when I went to jail Nov8th (took the rest of what I had from my surgery back in Aug) and it didn't do shit for me. Couldn't feel it at all... But, Diluadid worked very well while I was in the hospital that month. I'm sure you saw my vids from the hospital when I was walking around like nothing was wrong and doing biz from my hospital room. Ill take a 5mg Diluadid shot IM over any amount of Heroin. (I say "IM" because I can't do IV anymore unless it's through a PICC line or midline as all my veins are now closed up, even my neck.. when I had my midline in in the hospital they're giving me 2 mg Dilaudid every 2 hours which worked great however 2 mg IM didn't do shit LOL).

Bullshit alert right there, you have never been big and vascular...even at your leanest you were smooth and lacking any veins.

[NelsonMuntz]

Bullshit alert right there, you have never been big and vascular...even at your leanest you were smooth and lacking any veins.

welcome back

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welcome back

what's worse about this esfitness moron is that he is genuinely convinced by his own bullshit.
And it doesn't help him by encouraging him, which happens a lot on here, his garbage just spews out on the page and some morons lap it up hoping its real because they actually think his life is acceptable and even enjoyable in some way.

I used to have a mate like him, no where near as deluded but he thought that he had to create outlandish stories to make up for his mundane life.
Instead of saying "I went home" when he was asked why did he disappear on a night out with us , he used to make up stories like getting in a car with three lesbians and going back to their place and sleeping with them all.

[NelsonMuntz]

what's worse about this esfitness moron is that he is genuinely convinced by his own bullshit.
And it doesn't help him by encouraging him, which happens a lot on here, his garbage just spews out on the page and some morons lap it up hoping its real because they actually think his life is acceptable and even enjoyable in some way.

I used to have a mate like him, no where near as deluded but he thought that he had to create outlandish stories to make up for his mundane life.
Instead of saying "I went home" when he was asked why did he disappear on a night out with us , he used to make up stories like getting in a car with three lesbians and going back to their place and sleeping with them all.

lol so true

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There's absolutely no way I could last for 33 years doing the stuff that I was doing. I dare anybody to show me somebody using more heroin than I was using (6 grams a day), and if I would start using heroin again it would likely go to 6 grams a day again. And then what? Go to 9 grams a day? How many people do you think can run 9 grams of heroin a day for any length of time before they die for whatever reasons.

... And alcohol? I was told back in 2004 that if I continue to drink like I was, I'd likely be dead possibly within 6 months, but Shirley within a year, as my pancreas was so bad. My doctor at the time was an old English fella and his nurse had been with him for 19yrs , and when he was looking at my pancreas enzymes (I had pancreatitis and was hospitalized for 10 days on a liquid only diet which meant chicken and beef broth, and sometimes I would get lime Jell-O)  

so 6gms is the sweet spot for heroin as well as test...

I thought you were a personal trainer from 2000, I'm certain anyone hiring a personal trainer would drop them instantly if they smelled of booze and you must have smelled of booze.

[wes]

so 6gms is the sweet spot for heroin as well as test...

lol 

[NelsonMuntz]

No fucking way this guy was functioning and looking normal around people with the doses he brags about.

It is like when I have gone to meeting and someone is telling their story, and it will go something like "yeah so I always was violent beating up people winning all the fights bla bla bla,(then in the next sentence)so I used to always be a blackout drinker and I always woke up covered in my own blood, and all busted up"

Point is most people who are fucked have this blurred view of how they were yet there is a different version of what society and those around us saw, 2 or more very different versions of events.

I just read Dee Snider's book and he made a joke about all these rock stars claiming to be keeping diaries while using heroin and how that is total horseshit because the last think someone on smack is thinking about while high is a pen and paper

this describes the reality of getbig's own version of Walter Mitty

[NelsonMuntz]

reality part 2

[chess315]

I have never seen the joy in herion I liked xtasy and drinking way more. I didn't do xtasy everyday though but when I did I did a lot usually sold partyied away around a kilo a month I sold acid to didn't hardly do that much but it sold out the ass cost nothing in bulk not even a penny a hit.