Alcohol + Opiates + Benzodiazepines

[Van_Bilderass]

there is only one... p o t

I use it and like it but it can both lower and increase anxiety, sometimes both at the same time 

[Van_Bilderass]

i was on something called tianeptine most of last year. novel antidepressant that hits opiate receptors felt great on it and not HIGH, just a clear focus and sense of well being just short of euphoria. but the prices have skyrocketed due to chinese import restrictions,

I asked about tianeptine experiences on this thread I think.
Unfortunately it seems to be quite addictive, like all really effective drugs seem to be. This is also one I can't get easily.

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But seriously, non-addictive anti-anxiety substances would be highly useful. A lot of interesting stuff available in the US and UK for example, stuff I can't get unless I try to import 

why doesnt anyone ever say that to our resident billy bullshit when he posts his stories that are even more unbelievable than the satire I posted?

[ESFitness]

why doesnt anyone ever say that to our resident billy bullshit when he posts his stories that are even more unbelievable than the satire I posted?

I used a gram a day of each everyday from 94-2002, I shit out all my internal organs but Im not stupid, I always shit through a tennis racquet which allows me to re-insert them later, I can operate on myself because I have a library which contains a full selection of medical books.
I always have three nurses on standby at all times, I insist they weigh no more than 96.5lbs..

PS I was in prison you know,,,

Your obsession with me is pathetic. Can't imagine a life where I'd wake up every morning thinking of another man and displaying it to other men on the internet. Of course I'm not autistic and dont have. Asperger's, nor have I ever had to deal with somebody with your condition in my life, so I can't relate.

[ESFitness]

If I had to go to rehab these days, id head to Tijuana for Ibogaine treatment.

These other drugs talked about here are completely new to me (aside from "endorphins" in general).

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When i go to rehab again next month, i will head to Tijuana for Ibogaine treatment.

These other drugs talked about here are completely new to me (aside from "endorphins" in general).

actually contemplating your next trip to rehab and planning it out, fuck me what a pathetic weak willed loser.

[Nether Animal]

I asked about tianeptine experiences on this thread I think.
Unfortunately it seems to be quite addictive, like all really effective drugs seem to be. This is also one I can't get easily.

UK?

[ESFitness]

actually contemplating your next trip to rehab and planning it out, fuck me what a pathetic weak willed loser.

What's it like knowing a 15 year old boy could beat you, a 54yr old "man", senseless?

While you're at it, what's it like only having sex with 2 women in your lifetime?

I'm actually jealous of you, being able to read 2 books at the same time. 1 with each eye.

I guess it's trait that runs in your family. Found a pic of your grandfather. Just gotta figure out where the brilllo-hair trait came from.

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What's it like knowing a 15 year old boy could beat you, a 54yr old "man", senseless?

While you're at it, what's it like only having sex with 2 women in your lifetime?

I'm actually jealous of you, being able to read 2 books at the same time. 1 with each eye.

I guess it's trait that runs in your family. Found a pic of your grandfather. Just gotta figure out where the brilllo-hair trait came from.

a 15 year old boy wouldn't have to hit you at all, you are already fucking senseless.

I suppose its hard for a man who has zero self worth and self esteem to try and maintain a degree of rationality and always seeks escapism in the form of drink and drugs enough to warrant as many trips in rehab as you obviously need to get any meaningful attention from others.

Its a form of self harm the way you live your life.

I on the other hand am fine thanks..

[Zillotch]

I use it and like it but it can both lower and increase anxiety, sometimes both at the same time  

anxiety is strain dependent, and transient in my experience - passing with continued use

some strains r pure bliss, tho... narcotic, clean, anxiety free. when u hit upon one of these strains.. grow it, and never look back

[ESFitness]

a 15 year old boy wouldn't have to hit you at all, you are already fucking senseless.

I suppose its hard for a man who has zero self worth and self esteem to try and maintain a degree of rationality and always seeks escapism in the form of drink and drugs enough to warrant as many trips in rehab as you obviously need to get any meaningful attention from others.

Its a form of self harm the way you live your life.

I on the other hand am fine thanks..

Btw, "seeks escapism in booze and drugs"? Lol you dunce. I TURNED DOWN prescriptions to Percocet, Vicodin, and Tylenol 3 and chose Tramadol because it was touted as being non-narcotic and non addictive. I went to heroin in order to avoid withdrawal because it was the only thing available consistently, and used alcohol 2 deal with heroin withdrawal.

If I wanted "escapism" I would be smoking weed and eating mushrooms. You embarrass yourself when you talk about shit you know absolutely nothing about.

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Btw, "seeks escapism in booze and drugs"? Lol you dunce. I TURNED DOWN prescriptions to Percocet, Vicodin, and Tylenol 3 and chose Tramadol because it was touted as being non-narcotic and non addictive. I went to heroin in order to avoid withdrawal because it was the only thing available consistently, and used alcohol 2 deal with heroin withdrawal.

If I wanted "escapism" I would be smoking weed and eating mushrooms. You embarrass yourself when you talk about shit you know absolutely nothing about.

someone elses fault.. yep, still in denial, rehab is just around the corner yet again...

[ESFitness]

someone elses fault.. yep, still in denial, rehab is just around the corner yet again...

Someone else's fault?

Keep on taking about something you're clueless about.

Tell me tramadol wasn't marketed as THE alternative to the typical opiate painkillers because it WAS NOT addictive. Tell us all you don't know what the fuck you're taking about. You fucking dunce.

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Someone else's fault?

Keep on taking about something you're clueless about.

Tell me tramadol wasn't marketed as THE alternative to the typical opiate painkillers because it WAS NOT addictive. Tell us all you don't know what the fuck you're taking about. You fucking dunce.

I have around 500 tramadol in the cupboard, I get them prescribed for my back problem, yes, I can say they are addictive, but I take them sporadically when my back is especially painful, I dont take them all the time because Im not a moron like you and I foresee the dangers, so yes, I do know about pain killers and the potential problems they can cause but Im not stupid enough to fall into the trap of getting addicted.

its not just you who has had first hand experiences.
Im sure you knew the potential problems of Nubain and heroin yet still were dumb enough to take them.

[Van_Bilderass]

anxiety is strain dependent, and transient in my experience - passing with continued use

some strains r pure bliss, tho... narcotic, clean, anxiety free. when u hit upon one of these strains.. grow it, and never look back

Sure, but at the same time there are a lot of people who developed an anxiety problem after years of use. Seems pretty common - it was all bliss but then it turned on you and started to cause anxiety, panic, paranoia, derealization and depression.  It does work best after a period of daily use but I think it's best to take breaks to avoid the burned out feeling.

[Van_Bilderass]

If I wanted "escapism" I would be smoking weed and eating mushrooms. You embarrass yourself when you talk about shit you know absolutely nothing about.

One thought that often comes to me after smoking is "this is not an escape". It increases emotions, both negative and positive, the internal dialogue feels like mental wrestling. I think painkillers and benzos are more escapism as they dull negative emotions, you don't care about nothing. Never tried mushrooms but everyone always stresses set and setting as they can lead you to a mental hell.

[ESFitness]

I have around 500 tramadol in the cupboard, I get them prescribed for my back problem, yes, I can say they are addictive, but I take them sporadically when my back is especially painful, I dont take them all the time because Im not a moron like you and I foresee the dangers, so yes, I do know about pain killers and the potential problems they can cause but Im not stupid enough to fall into the trap of getting addicted.

its not just you who has had first hand experiences.
Im sure you knew the potential problems of Nubain and heroin yet still were dumb enough to take them.

"Yes you can say theyre naddictive"?? No you can't. Fucking moron. I'm not talking "oh these feel nice" I mean you get physically ill. Goddamn I can't believe people haven't realized you have Autisim. I'm sure YOU are aware, hence your complete inability to understand the simplest shit while believing you do.

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"Yes you can say theyre naddictive"?? No you can't. Fucking moron. I'm not talking "oh these feel nice" I mean you get physically ill. Goddamn I can't believe people haven't realized you have Autisim. I'm sure YOU are aware, hence your complete inability to understand the simplest shit while believing you do.

you must be the stupidest bastard I have ever had the misfortune to debate with, the "oh this feels nice" develops into "I cant stop", if you don't recognise the signs, its just dumb twats like you that dont recognise the signs.

If you keep taking them beyond the "it feels nice" and keep increasing the dosage then you will develop an addiction.
Any one with a bit of sense would grasp that fact.
Now, if the pain you experience is out weighing the dosage and you still have to take them regardless then you have a problem.

You sir have never had that problem, you are just a weak willed pussy who cant handle the responsibility of life.

Every ounce of you reeks insecurity, its why we have to constant long winded posts about how you have done things better than everyone else.

wake the fuck up and try and build a relationship with your family, Im sure if you apologised for all your past transgressions they would take you back.

[Joe Valentino]

you must be the stupidest bastard I have ever had the misfortune to debate with, the "oh this feels nice" develops into "I cant stop", if you don't recognise the signs, its just dumb twats like you that dont recognise the signs.

If you keep taking them beyond the "it feels nice" and keep increasing the dosage then you will develop an addiction.
Any one with a bit of sense would grasp that fact.
Now, if the pain you experience is out weighing the dosage and you still have to take them regardless then you have a problem.

You sir have never had that problem, you are just a weak willed pussy who cant handle the responsibility of life.

Every ounce of you reeks insecurity, its why we have to constant long winded posts about how you have done things better than everyone else.

wake the fuck up and try and build a relationship with your family, Im sure if you apologised for all your past transgressions they would take you back.

I never tried Heroin, and apparently the stuff on the streets of Florida, are everything, but Heroin.  People are dropping like flies. The effects are 'worth' at all?

As far as desire, I cannot lie, if Nubain was still around, Ill give it a shot, cause seems the perfect substance for training purpouses

[Zillotch]

it was all bliss but then it turned on you and started to cause anxiety, panic, paranoia, derealization and depression.

I'm gonna go ahead and label any such person a genetic loser.

One thought that often comes to me after smoking is "this is not an escape". It increases emotions, both negative and positive, the internal dialogue feels like mental wrestling.

weed amplifies reality, the opposite of 'escape'... which is why some people freak out, lol

[Nether Animal]

I never tried Heroin, and apparently the stuff on the streets of Florida, are everything, but Heroin.  People are dropping like flies. The effects are 'worth' at all?

As far as desire, I cannot lie, if Nubain was still around, Ill give it a shot, cause seems the perfect substance for training purpouses

It all boils down to the same mechanism of action. If you have been given a morphine/dilaudid shot in the hospital for whatever, you know what heroin feels like. 

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I never tried Heroin, and apparently the stuff on the streets of Florida, are everything, but Heroin.  People are dropping like flies. The effects are 'worth' at all?

As far as desire, I cannot lie, if Nubain was still around, Ill give it a shot, cause seems the perfect substance for training purpouses

yep, numb your body so you dont realise you are tearing muscles and tendons off the bone.

Perfect.

[Van_Bilderass]

I'm gonna go ahead and label any such person a genetic loser.

weed amplifies reality, the opposite of 'escape'... which is why some people freak out, lol

I don't know if I agree. Lots of people experience negative
effects if they use over long periods of time. Some even go so far as to say it's a character defect if you can't handle the weed, like you have lots of unresolved psychological issues. I don't agree, it's just chemistry. THC especially without CBD etc often causes negative emotions, that's what it does.

[Joe Valentino]

yep, numb your body so you dont realise you are tearing muscles and tendons off the bone.

Perfect.

Then how come was soo popular in the 90s, pretty much everyone used them? Ok, a couple of them prolly abused and got injured, but, from what I read, makes the training a lot easier..

[Nether Animal]

Then how come was soo popular in the 90s, pretty much everyone used them? Ok, a couple of them prolly abused and got injured, but, from what I read, makes the training a lot easier..

Any opiate would. People act like nubain is some holy grail because of its association with pros in the '90s, but its more that it only came in injectable form, so people shot it up. Hell yeah it's going to be good that way, anything would.