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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #100 on: August 18, 2017, 01:42:28 PM »
Not sure what you mean. Nothing in my post was based on my opinion or judgment. I should have posted this link to the definition of free press.
Is the media seeking truth? Personally, I doubt it.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/free-press

Why we should want a free press, is what.  What's the reasoning behind that, I ask.

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #101 on: August 18, 2017, 01:53:45 PM »
Why we should want a free press, is what.  What's the reasoning behind that, I ask.

I have the feeling you don't get what 'free press' means. Russia, North Korea and other countries under dictatorships/government rule do not have free press. The press is controlled by their governments/leadership. In the U.S. and other democratic and socialist countries there is free press, our governments do not control the press. 

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #102 on: August 18, 2017, 02:02:17 PM »
I have the feeling you don't get what 'free press' means. Russia, North Korea and other countries under dictatorships/government rule do not have free press. The press is controlled by their governments/leadership. In the U.S. and other democratic and socialist countries there is free press, our governments do not control the press. 

Why's this so important, is what I ask.

What's the threat or the problem, otherwise?

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #103 on: August 18, 2017, 02:05:40 PM »
When we (purport, at least, to) insist on a free press... WHAT trouble are we attempting to avoid?  That's what I want to know.

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #104 on: August 18, 2017, 02:22:21 PM »
When we (purport, at least, to) insist on a free press... WHAT trouble are we attempting to avoid?  That's what I want to know.

It seems to me we are attempting to avoid the news being filtered by the government. Regardless of whether one is a conservative or liberal, we should be in agreement here.

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #105 on: August 18, 2017, 02:30:13 PM »
It seems to me we are attempting to avoid the news being filtered by the government. Regardless of whether one is a conservative or liberal, we should be in agreement here.

Help me out, here, Prime.  What's the threat?

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #106 on: August 18, 2017, 02:40:07 PM »
Prime, is it fair to say we want to avoid being deliberately misled?

Meaning that we want to attempt to seek truth, from/by which we can make our decisions.  Does that sound about right?

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« Reply #107 on: August 18, 2017, 05:39:00 PM »
Prime, is it fair to say we want to avoid being deliberately misled?

Meaning that we want to attempt to seek truth, from/by which we can make our decisions.  Does that sound about right?


Sounds good. Free press helps ensure this remains possible. What's left is wading through the bullshit all media puts out in pursuit of that almighty dollar. I see no way of changing this.

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #108 on: August 19, 2017, 12:25:27 PM »
I'm glad someone put this together.  Tu this is what I was talking about.  He disavowed those folks numerous times.  Disavowed David Duke 17 years ago. 

he said he never heard of david duke...2 years ago....

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #109 on: August 23, 2017, 07:23:24 PM »
he said he never heard of david duke...2 years ago....

Ok?  In what context?  He disavowed David Duke about 20 times during the election. 

Do you think Trump is a white supremacist and/or KKK sympathizer? 

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« Reply #110 on: August 23, 2017, 07:31:01 PM »
Na. But KKK loves trump and he plays that like no other republican before. Ronald regan says "we don't want your votes". Bob dole said "we don't want your votes" trump said " there were some fine people on both sides"
"Nazis had permits"

He panders to them. Now you're gonna say he doesn't but you and I know he does.

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #111 on: August 23, 2017, 07:45:10 PM »
Na. But KKK loves trump and he plays that like no other republican before. Ronald regan says "we don't want your votes". Bob dole said "we don't want your votes" trump said " there were some fine people on both sides"
"Nazis had permits"

He panders to them. Now you're gonna say he doesn't but you and I know he does.

Oh for Gods sake will you stop. Seriously, this entire narrative is just fucking stupid and you damn well know it. So guess if he took the words from Reagan and/or Dole you'd just accuse him of plagiarism anyway.


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« Reply #112 on: August 23, 2017, 07:53:14 PM »
Ok?  In what context?  He disavowed David Duke about 20 times during the election. 

Do you think Trump is a white supremacist and/or KKK sympathizer? 
Of course not.  Trump got out of the Nationalist party in 2005 because he said he couldn't be in an organization with the likes of David Duke, that was in a TV interview in 2005.

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #113 on: August 24, 2017, 11:05:40 AM »
Na. But KKK loves trump and he plays that like no other republican before. Ronald regan says "we don't want your votes". Bob dole said "we don't want your votes" trump said " there were some fine people on both sides"
"Nazis had permits"

He panders to them. Now you're gonna say he doesn't but you and I know he does.

Panders?  You mean by disavowing them and calling them evil in public?  By going into the hood in black churches during the campaign and soliciting their vote?  And meeting with black folks after the election to try and figure out how to help black communities?  And then condemning the KKK et al. after Charlottesville?  He's doing a pretty lousy job of a pandering to the KKK.

And yes, there is blame on all sides for violence.  He was right.  Those protesters came clad in riot gear.  They had bags filled with urine and feces.  They had pepper spray.  They were paid to be there.

And how do you know know every single one of the people in the "KKK" group were a part of them?  You don't think it's possible some of them were not racists? 

That said, I do think Trump could have handled his comments better. 

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #114 on: August 24, 2017, 11:11:15 AM »
Of course not.  Trump got out of the Nationalist party in 2005 because he said he couldn't be in an organization with the likes of David Duke, that was in a TV interview in 2005.

I know. 

What I also know about bigots is they cannot hide it forever.  It always manifests itself.  Think about this:  we are seeing the restrained version of Trump in office, and he still has stream of conscientiousness tweets where he melts down like a little kid.  Because he has always been the boss of everybody before becoming president, how much more did he freely let loose with whatever he was thinking in the private sector?  Point being if he was a racist, he would have likely used racial epithets over the past 50 years.  He doesn't have enough self control not to do so. 

We saw that with Donald Sterling (former owner of the Clippers).  You can bet dollars to donuts that if there was credible evidence of Trump being a racist the MSM would have been all over it.

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #115 on: August 24, 2017, 11:58:50 AM »
Sounds good. Free press helps ensure this remains possible. What's left is wading through the bullshit all media puts out in pursuit of that almighty dollar. I see no way of changing this.

Are you saying it requires bullshit to make money as an information source, Prime?  Who told you that, or how did you arrive at that conclusion?


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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #116 on: August 24, 2017, 05:59:29 PM »
Are you saying it requires bullshit to make money as an information source, Prime?  Who told you that, or how did you arrive at that conclusion?



Look, the media reports 24/7. When you hear the same stories repeated an untold number of times, it all starts to become bullshit, as in saying, "Not this bullshit again!"

As far as I can understand, the only media not making much money right now is print media. The same story written by the same reporter is published in various newspapers across the county at the same time. Repetition is bullshit to me.

All this repetitive bullshit rakes in the big bucks from all those who sponsor it and those of us who buy the sponsors' products.

 

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #117 on: August 25, 2017, 09:17:39 PM »
Look, the media reports 24/7. When you hear the same stories repeated an untold number of times, it all starts to become bullshit, as in saying, "Not this bullshit again!"

As far as I can understand, the only media not making much money right now is print media. The same story written by the same reporter is published in various newspapers across the county at the same time. Repetition is bullshit to me.

All this repetitive bullshit rakes in the big bucks from all those who sponsor it and those of us who buy the sponsors' products.

 

Do you think it's by design?  Or do you think it's just a happy accident for the corporations, that it performs so well as an echo chamber?

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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #118 on: August 25, 2017, 10:01:35 PM »
Pushing a agenda of less then 1% of white population.(new nazis, white trash)..over and over and over..we all know white people always do charities and are open  about their generosity..yet msm labels them as racists"..sit back down boy and shut up"..yet no other races contribute to charity or generosity? ..we always help out..yet we are attacked? Things that you go hmmmm
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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #119 on: August 25, 2017, 10:16:35 PM »
Neo this is the red pill to know the truth and there is the blue pill to live your normal life...i wish I didn't take the red pill..
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Re: Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'
« Reply #120 on: August 26, 2017, 01:48:43 AM »
It's all a sham to blame white racism on the fact that a large part of the Democratic Party base is dysfunctional and incompatible with modern society:

The irony is that liberals actually believe their own bullshit. They really thought that the state of black inner cities was the result of racist white cops. Meanwhile, the cops have stood back and this is the result:


Two men in their 70s among seven shot in Chicago - Chicago Tribune

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct--chicago-shootings-violence-20170824-story,amp.html