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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #200 on: October 02, 2017, 02:56:23 PM »
What the fucks up with all the red?

Because I felt like it.
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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #201 on: October 02, 2017, 02:56:42 PM »
17 guns

could you have got all those in up your ass...


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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #203 on: October 02, 2017, 02:59:13 PM »
I think most people would say the same thing if their brother did it...

Not necessarily. After mass shootings, when family members are interviewed, they have often (not always) give some indication about the shooters life--depressed, past suicidal attempts, etc. Something that may give some indication about a motive or not. This guy seemed totally oblivious. I wonder how often he talked with his brother.

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« Reply #204 on: October 02, 2017, 03:02:32 PM »
Not necessarily. After mass shootings, when family members are interviewed, they have often (not always) give some indication about the shooters life--depressed, past suicidal attempts, etc. Something that may give some indication about a motive or not. This guy seemed totally oblivious. I wonder how often he talked with his brother.



there are no indications in someones life that would suggest they were going to open fire on hundreds of people with multiple machine guns unless they had done something similar before.

Lots of people show signs of odd behaviour but that is just beyond the pail.

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« Reply #205 on: October 02, 2017, 03:09:13 PM »
i would guess they've already checked out his log of digital communications which would throw up anything that would suggest whether or not it's likely that he has any terrorist links.



Well, I'll call bullshit on a 12 hour mass murder investigation. They never state anything with great certainty this early. How would they even know they were aware of all his channels of communication in that short period of time? Fishy.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #206 on: October 02, 2017, 03:09:40 PM »
there are no indications in someones life that would suggest they were going to open fire on hundreds of people with multiple machine guns unless they had done something similar before.

Lots of people show signs of odd behaviour but that is just beyond the pail.

Sure, there are no studies that can exactly pinpoint when someone is going to use multiple machine guns to open fire from a 32nd floor window. However, there is strong evidence to suggest that certain variables (risk factors) may increase the chance of violent behavior. Now, how that violence is manifested GREATLY VARIES depending on the person. You cannot make any definitive conclusions because human behavior is too complex; nonetheless, we have a general idea of what factors increase the chance of extreme violent behavior; but of course, there is no definitive causal mechanisms. Some studies have already been conducted on the risk factors that may increase the chance of a mass shooting.
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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #207 on: October 02, 2017, 03:15:46 PM »
Sure, there are no studies that can exactly pinpoint when someone is going to use multiple machine guns to open fire from a 32nd floor window. However, there is strong evidence to suggest that certain variables may increase the chance of violent behavior. Now, how that violence is manifested GREATLY VARIES depending on the person. You cannot make any definitive conclusions because human behavior is too complex; nonetheless, we have a general idea of what factors increase the chance of extreme violent behavior; but of course, there is no definitive causal mechanisms.
Yeah, and you can find some of them on the politics board.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #208 on: October 02, 2017, 03:29:40 PM »
 

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« Reply #209 on: October 02, 2017, 03:30:52 PM »
Remember the shooting at the republican congressional baseball game? He was also an anti trump liberal and anti gun as well.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #210 on: October 02, 2017, 03:31:52 PM »

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« Reply #211 on: October 02, 2017, 03:35:24 PM »
Of course the media isn't saying anything.

This morning, I turned on Bloomberg and watched it for quite a while and didn’t hear anything about the shooting and then I turned on Fox and they were covering it wall-to-wall. Mike Bloomberg spoke at the Democratic convention.

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« Reply #212 on: October 02, 2017, 03:35:51 PM »


Well, I'll call bullshit on a 12 hour mass murder investigation. They never state anything with great certainty this early. How would they even know they were aware of all his channels of communication in that short period of time? Fishy.

i think you'd be surprised how quickly an organisation like the fbi will work on a crime of this magnitude. no doubt will have a couple dosen or more people simultaneously sifting through his life. going through his computers, phones, speaking to friends, family, neighbours. and terrorists that plan on killing themselves don't generally bother covering their tracks. usually the complete opposite.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #213 on: October 02, 2017, 03:38:21 PM »
59 dead,  527 injured


http://fortune.com/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting-mandalay-bay-mgm-stock/


The Owner of Mandalay Bay Lost Almost a Billion Dollars in Value After the Las Vegas Shooting

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« Reply #214 on: October 02, 2017, 03:41:17 PM »
Of course the media isn't saying anything.

STFU ,  you are the biggest retard on this board,

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« Reply #215 on: October 02, 2017, 03:41:53 PM »
Remember the shooting at the republican congressional baseball game? He was also an anti trump liberal and anti gun as well.

You literally can’t overstate the level of derangement the Trump win caused. I started a thread about it a week after the election and it just hasn’t let up. If anything these people have gotten worse.

Read strawman’s posts on the political board. It’s as though his every thought from morning until night every day is about Trump.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #216 on: October 02, 2017, 03:44:32 PM »
ex-military friend of mine said you can clearly hear 2 guns firing at the same time, and sounds like its coming from different locations in the videos

can any other getbig gun experts notice that ?

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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #217 on: October 02, 2017, 03:44:49 PM »
i think you'd be surprised how quickly an organisation like the fbi will work on a crime of this magnitude. no doubt will have a dosen or more people simultaneously sifting through his life. going through his computers, phones, speaking to friends, family, neighbours. and terrorists that plan on killing themselves don't generally bother covering their tracks. usually the complete opposite.


I would be surprised, yes. I already covered that. Example...anyone can go to the library and use a secret hotmail email addy or facebook and buy a burner phone. That's not a 12 hour discovery.

They are saying 500 people injured now. It will be interesting how the story actually comes out after the appropriate amount of time has passed. A lot of loose ends. Heard he also worked for Lockheed and had Antifa stuff in his room. Is it true, are they going to dispel that or will it just be case closed in a day?

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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #218 on: October 02, 2017, 03:48:25 PM »
ex-military friend of mine said you can clearly hear 2 guns firing at the same time, and sounds like its coming from different locations in the videos

can any other getbig gun experts notice that ?


Even if you spend a lot of time at the range you can hear stuff...there could be a lot of echo and with the amount of rounds going out hard to say. Considering his brother claims he had no gun knowledge or military background at 64 years old that's a lot of fire going on.

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« Reply #219 on: October 02, 2017, 03:51:19 PM »
STFU ,  you are the biggest retard on this board,

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Triggered.

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« Reply #220 on: October 02, 2017, 03:55:31 PM »
STFU ,  you are the biggest retard on this board,

Out before

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''When you stop being an unhinged, terrorist-coddling ecoweenie, that'll be change we can believe in.''
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More retarded than dj181 and shizzo?
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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #221 on: October 02, 2017, 03:58:17 PM »
 

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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #222 on: October 02, 2017, 03:58:59 PM »
O'hearn told the punk he was on his way up 34 flights of stairs, so the guy killed himself

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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #223 on: October 02, 2017, 03:59:45 PM »

I would be surprised, yes. I already covered that. Example...anyone can go to the library and use a secret hotmail email addy or facebook and buy a burner phone. That's not a 12 hour discovery.

They are saying 500 people injured now. It will be interesting how the story actually comes out after the appropriate amount of time has passed. A lot of loose ends. Heard he also worked for Lockheed and had Antifa stuff in his room. Is it true, are they going to dispel that or will it just be case closed in a day?


well i guess the fbi have had quite a bit of experience dealing with crimes such as this, some terror related, most not. i guess they have a feel for it by now(for want of a better way of putting it). and as i said in terror cases where gunman plans to kill themselves they're generally not trying to cover up their motive, it kind of defeats the whole purpose of terrorism if you leave no clues as to your motive.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17
« Reply #224 on: October 02, 2017, 04:10:48 PM »
O'hearn told the punk he was on his way up 34 flights of stairs, so the guy killed himself



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