2017 IFBB Asia Grand Prix - Flex Lewis v Hadi Hadi Choopan - Who was better?

[Simple Simon]

[calfzilla]

I believe mr Goodrum did a video on this topic.

[Randomum]

Flex has better lines, waist, and muscle bellies pop out more.

[Pet shop boys]

Flex has better lines, waist, and muscle bellies pop out more.

Not on the Front lat spread


WooSHHHHHHH

[Skeletor]

What placing did the no 21 fella get?

[Simple Simon]

What placing did the no 21 fella get?

2nd

[Parker]

Hadi had 'em. David Henry's legs have been down for years. Any reason why? Could it be due to being in the military and needing maneuverability?

[Redux]

Flex got a very early Christmas present.

[Skeletor]

2nd

Flex has insane calves and might have the edge in the bdb as well as the hype of being the reigning 212 Olympia champion but I think no 21 looks better in the other poses.

[hench]

Flex doesn't have the dwarf proportions, doesnt look like a short arse

[Royalty]

In the video, Hadi's midsection looked too big in his transitions. Something didn't look quite right.

[Dan-O]

Flex has better lines, waist, and muscle bellies pop out more.

This.  Hadi's waist is too wide, that throws off his lines. And his thighs dwarf his calves, kind of like Big Ramy.  That also throws off his aesthetics. And I daresay Jose Raymond should have been 2nd. 

[jude2]

This.  Hadi's waist is too wide, that throws off his lines. And his thighs dwarf his calves, kind of like Big Ramy.  That also throws off his aesthetics. And I daresay Jose Raymond should have been 2nd. 

Good points.

[Evo]

Very close...

Flex takes it IMO, more pleasing to the eye.

Hadi is there musculature/condition wise, it's his genetics that limit him now.

[Bevo]

Hadi had 'em. David Henry's legs have been down for years. Any reason why? Could it be due to being in the military and needing maneuverability?

He hasn’t been in the military in ages

[Evo]

Hadi had 'em. David Henry's legs have been down for years. Any reason why? Could it be due to being in the military and needing maneuverability?

Age

Slowing up

Winding down his training/career perhaps?

Injury

Nothing to do with the millitary...

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I believe mr Goodrum did a video on this topic.

yep

[beakdoctor]

This.  Hadi's waist is too wide, that throws off his lines. And his thighs dwarf his calves, kind of like Big Ramy.  That also throws off his aesthetics. And I daresay Jose Raymond should have been 2nd. 

agreed. his arms dont match his chest. his thighs are too big for his calves. hes only got one pose and in that he looks like a big spider. you know what i think flex did. i think he messed with him alittle bit. i think he played with his mind. probably took his shirt and hid it from him.

[Bevo]

agreed. his arms dont match his chest. his thighs are too big for his calves. hes only got one pose and in that he looks like a big spider. you know what i think flex did. i think he messed with him alittle bit. i think he played with his mind. probably took his shirt and hid it from him.

He didn’t take his shirt, he took his thong and hid it

[honest]

Flex edges him better from the side and rear, little better balanced overall as well.

[Nether Animal]

Hadi had 'em. David Henry's legs have been down for years. Any reason why? Could it be due to being in the military and needing maneuverability?

Genetics. Same reason flex's lower lats disappear in rdb.

[Kwon]

Flex > Chopin.


And with that said,

lol at people think GSP is clean, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[Tennisballz]

Choopans legs look retarded.  Way too big.  Flex has a better look for sure.  I think Jose Raymond is the most balanced, he could have taken 2nd or 1st IMO.

[Vince B]

Well, when you compare physiques there is more than conditioning and size to consider. Proportions are also important as is aesthetics. Flex just looks better. Shape of the legs much better. Look at the calves and arms and forearms...all go to Flex. Thighs too big on Hadi....spoils the proportions because his calves not in proportion. Shoulders wide and impressive on Hadi. Extremities let him down.

I don't see how anyone can think this was close. Raymond was huge as well but not as aesthetic.

[Vince B]

Jose Raymond has a far more aesthetic upper body than Flex, simply better in every way. From the vacuum pose, to the chest thickness, lat size, from the front, back and sides his upper body outclasses Flex's. It's not just an upper body game and his thighs aren't as big as Flex's but that's his only weakpoint compared to Flex.

If anything, Flex's calves are too big for his thighs. Ronnie Coleman won 8 straight Olympia's with calves that were too small for his thighs. Hadi looks fantastic and will win a lot of shows if he keeps this shape.

Ah, how the standards change to suit guys like Coleman. A shame, really, because his calves were suspect. Ditto for Dexter and perhaps others. No need to bring up lagging body parts just give the judges what they want and you can win. Dorian won with half a biceps so that shows you what the judging standard is like.

Flex has amazing calves that are in proportion to his arms and forearms. Hadi and the others not so much.