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UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« on: November 03, 2017, 04:26:41 PM »
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 Michael Bisping (c) (30-7) vs. Georges St-Pierre (25-2)*
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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2017, 04:37:57 PM »
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 Michael Bisping (c) (30-7) vs. Georges St-Pierre (25-2)*
 Cody Garbrandt (c) (11-0) vs. TJ Dillashaw (15-3)**
 Joanna Jedrzejczyk (c) (14-0) vs. Rose Namajunas (7-3)***
 Stephen Thompson (13-2-1) vs. Jorge Masvidal (32-12)
 Johny Hendricks (18-7) vs. Paulo Henrique Borrachinha (10-0)


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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2017, 04:39:07 PM »
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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2017, 04:40:13 PM »
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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2017, 04:49:47 PM »


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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2017, 04:52:23 PM »
che could beat all their asses

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2017, 05:03:06 PM »
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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2017, 05:05:28 PM »
Hendricks will lose bad.  He's finished.

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2017, 05:13:26 PM »
It's sad to see a fighter go past their prime. They all do. Their heart tells them they can still do it but their body isn't there anymore. They all go through it.  Fighting takes a toll. St-Pierre is going to be humiliated and beaten badly.  He should just go down in history and take his place in the hall of fame but he thinks he can still do it. It's going to be ugly. It's not an age thing. It's an odometer thing. He has to many battles under his belt.

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2017, 05:18:49 PM »
It's sad to see a fighter go past their prime. They all do. Their heart tells them they can still do it but their body isn't there anymore. They all go through it.  Fighting takes a toll. St-Pierre is going to be humiliated and beaten badly.  He should just go down in history and take his place in the hall of fame but he thinks he can still do it. It's going to be ugly. It's not an age thing. It's an odometer thing. He has to many battles under his belt.

No offense but your logic is flawed. GSP has been in far fewer fights than Bisping. And GSP is younger.

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2017, 05:22:48 PM »
No offense but your logic is flawed. GSP has been in far fewer fights than Bisping. And GSP is younger.
Like I said age doesn't have anything to do with it. It has to do with how many wars they have been in. GSP has been fighting at a high level a lot longer than Bisping.

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2017, 05:27:41 PM »
Hendricks will lose bad.  He's finished.

He's never been the same after USADA started testing. Still remember when his kicked St:Pierre's ass.

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2017, 05:30:40 PM »
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 Michael Bisping (c) (30-7) vs. Georges St-Pierre (25-2)*
 Cody Garbrandt (c) (11-0) vs. TJ Dillashaw (15-3)**
 Joanna Jedrzejczyk (c) (14-0) vs. Rose Namajunas (7-3)***
 Stephen Thompson (13-2-1) vs. Jorge Masvidal (32-12)
 Johny Hendricks (18-7) vs. Paulo Henrique Borrachinha (10-0)


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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2017, 05:52:17 PM »
I'm pretty sure we can still use the odometre argument for Bisping.  He is older and has the most UFC wins in history.  He is two years older than St-Pierre.  St-Pierre has been training hard for the past four years, but not taking beatings in UFC fights.  That could be a plus or a minus.  I would bet money on St-Pierre.  I don't necessarily consider it to be an easy fight for him - I think it is a pretty good match-up.

Sad about John Hendricks though - at the end of his fight with St-Pierre at UFC 167, GSP, upon being announced winner, said to Hendricks "You gave me my toughest fight."  It's hard to hear, but if you pay attention to St-Pierre closely, you can hear him say it.  That was a nice thing for GSP to do, to console the loser of the fight like that.  Although many would argue that Hendricks won.

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2017, 06:00:41 PM »
I have a feeling tj will get blown out and rose/jj will be closer than anyone expects. Regardless, I hope tj and bisping do well.

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2017, 06:42:01 PM »
I really hope Cody wins. I truly believe tj is a snake. I'm rooting for gsp too. I think Cody WILL win not sure about gsp though
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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2017, 08:53:04 PM »
Bisping - that fight against Henderson aged him 10 years.  ;D

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2017, 09:10:32 PM »
Bisping - that fight against Henderson aged him 10 years.  ;D

Hmm?  If it aged Bisping 10 years, why would you be so confident he will win?  I found it interesting that both him and GSP weighed in at the same weight - 184.5-lb.

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2017, 10:33:26 PM »
I remember hearing on a podcast that GSP was considering going down in weight to 155 at one point.  I dont see him doing well against Bisping who is bigger and a tough veteran.  Especially after a long layoff.  I wonder if GSP picked Bisping himself?  He surely could fight Woodley for the 170 belt I would think.  Dont know why he isn't...

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2017, 10:45:53 PM »
Hmm?  If it aged Bisping 10 years, why would you be so confident he will win?  I found it interesting that both him and GSP weighed in at the same weight - 184.5-lb.


It's just a comment, never said anything about him winning. Ring rust is real though and so is drug testing so GSP may not be the same. Obviously GSP's wrestling is top notch so have to see where fight goes standing or on mat.

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2017, 10:59:24 PM »
I remember hearing on a podcast that GSP was considering going down in weight to 155 at one point.  I dont see him doing well against Bisping who is bigger and a tough veteran.  Especially after a long layoff.  I wonder if GSP picked Bisping himself?  He surely could fight Woodley for the 170 belt I would think.  Dont know why he isn't...

He thinks Bisping will be easier, I suspect.  Also, if he beats Bisping, he would become a multi-belt winner.  I believe that would make him the fourth in UFC history.  I also believe that Bisping only after his fight with Henderson II, beat GSP's record of most UFC wins.  So GSP would then tie Bisping and be once again the record-holder, albeit a tie.

After a Bisping win, GSP could fight McGregor in a catch-weight big money fight.  Or he could go down to 155 and legitimately claim the 155 title to, which would make him a 3-class belt winner - something never before seen in UFC history.

Funny how they both weighed in at 184.5, with Bisping being 2.5" taller, and everyone saying Bisping is so much bigger.  GSP will be around 195 for the fight later today, and Bisping will be, what, 205 or so?  I'm just curious, but wouldn't it just be a 10-lb weight disparity?  If you adjust for height, it's not like the actual muscle or weight per inch of height is much different.  Also, why is sheer body weight so important?  I understand that body weight itself does help, but does strength mean absolutely nothing?  As far as I am aware, GSP is stronger than Bisping, even if only positionally stronger - that being, knows how to use angles to his advantage.

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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2017, 06:18:12 AM »
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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2017, 07:38:25 AM »
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Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs. St-Pierre
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2017, 07:55:30 AM »

It's just a comment, never said anything about him winning. Ring rust is real though and so is drug testing so GSP may not be the same. Obviously GSP's wrestling is top notch so have to see where fight goes standing or on mat.

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