Stock market fear/greed indicator

[Straw Man]

You know some how or other, this is all Obama's fault.  LOL.

Hannity blamed Obama for it 3 or 4 days ago

[Coach is Back!]

Markets have been going up steadily for 9 years. Face the facts, trump and his merry band of 'tards will lead the country into recession or worse.

Funny how it happened to jump up over 40% in the last 15 month since his election. There isn't one indicator out there that would even suggest a recession genius.

You socialists are funny and at the same time incredibly clueless.

[Coach is Back!]

I bought some stock today
So knowing my track record it's almost guaranteed to keep going down

If it's anything like your political track record you'll be broke after the first 5min of the opening bell on Monday.

[Straw Man]

If it's anything like your political track record you'll be broke after the first 5min of the opening bell on Monday.

thanks for you concern Tubby
I'm pretty sure I'll be just fine

[Tapeworm]

I don't want to know anyone who exists on that continuum.

[keanu]

I'm on the opposite end. Extreme greed. All the top stocks are coming back into better valuations. Earnings are still at record levels so this isn't 1929. The correction is far from over however.

[Coach is Back!]

I'm on the opposite end. Extreme greed. All the top stocks are coming back into better valuations. Earnings are still at record levels so this isn't 1929. The correction is far from over however.

The corrections are estimated to be ending around the 22000 mark. I’m with you on the “greed” . Why even invest if you don’t expect to win in the long run. Unless you’ve sold because you got spooked, that’s the only time you lose money.

[Coach is Back!]

https://www.investors.com/news/stock-market-correction-what-to-do/

[Mr Anabolic]

Extreme fear indication = buy signal.

For normal corrections, yes.  This will not be a normal correction.    

2018-2019 should play out as the worst bear market in history.  

[Coach is Back!]

For normal corrections, yes.  This will not be a normal correction.    

2018-2019 should play out as the worst bear market in history.  

Read the article above. It underscores what I’ve been saying all week. There is zero indication of a recession and only down 10% from the market high. Panic when it hits 18-20%

[calfzilla]

I don't think we are headed to a recession for a few years. But either way I don't care. If market is up then great. If market drops then keep buying when cheap and earn big profits when it recovers. Only people who lose are those who buy high sell low.

[be back]

I don't think we are headed to a recession for a few years. But either way I don't care. If market is up then great. If market drops then keep buying when cheap and earn big profits when it recovers. Only people who lose are those who buy high sell low.

stock market crashes dont really effect the working man to any great extent

We went through a recession in the UK a few years ago, I didnt even notice, in fact interest rates dropped and or mortgage repayments went down and we had more disposable income.

[calfzilla]

stock market crashes dont really effect the working man to any great extent

We went through a recession in the UK a few years ago, I didnt even notice, in fact interest rates dropped and or mortgage repayments went down and we had more disposable income.

Yes there is plenty of good that comes with recession.

[Mr Anabolic]

Read the article above. It underscores what I’ve been saying all week. There is zero indication of a recession and only down 10% from the market high. Panic when it hits 18-20%

I'm speaking from a traders perspective.  When you see volatility increase 'bigly' as it did the past week, that often indicates the bull rally is over and a bear market has started.  Even in a bear market, the market never goes straight down.  When the S&P (SPX) drops below the 200 DMA, the down moves will accelerate greatly.  That could happen Monday or take several days/weeks to happen.

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24SPX&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p09431262106

[Mr Anabolic]

stock market crashes dont really effect the working man to any great extent

We went through a recession in the UK a few years ago, I didnt even notice, in fact interest rates dropped and or mortgage repayments went down and we had more disposable income.

It depends on the depth of the crash.  Selling begets more selling.  Margin calls force more selling driving the market down even more.  This is what happened in 2008 and the beginning of 2009.  

When retirement funds drop significantly that effects phycology, especially for those over 40 and they spend less when markets crash.  The millennials I talk to are mostly ignorant about the stock market, probably because they have little savings.  They're aloof about many things in general.

The Fed came to the rescue in March 2009 and pumped trillions into banks and world markets to keep everything propped up.  This "recovery" that the MSM keeps yapping about is a farce and has been orchestrated by central banks since 2009.  

[MAXX]

Indeed mass psychology is something that quite heavily dictates stock markets. Expectations, crumbled dreams of an easy buck and sheep mentality. Funny watching people at work... Last month they went on and on about their stock investments and bitcoin or whatever cookiecutter shit they jump on at just the peak and wrong time like the greater sheepish mass always do. And now the last week they have this bitter/serious tone in their voice when the subject was brought up.  

[Mr Anabolic]

Indeed mass psychology is something that quite heavily dictates stock markets. Expectations, crumbled dreams of an easy buck and sheep mentality. Funny watching people at work... Last month they went on and on about their stock investments and bitcoin or whatever cookiecutter shit they jump on at just the peak and wrong time like the greater sheepish mass always do. And now the last week they have this bitter/serious tone in their voice when the subject was brought up.  

Human nature never changes.  I've dealt with the same thing many times.  

I lived in San Diego during the RE boom and crash.  I told people a crash was coming, they laughed at me.  Then 2006/07 came.  Oooops.

I had a few people at a 2017 Chirstmas party tell me the stock market will never crash.  lol

I told people on here blipcoin was a Ponzi bubble mania, they laughed, told me I was jealous, and I "didn't understand it" and "it's a new revolution" and the most ridiculous one, "blipcoin will hit $1 million"  lol  

I have bliptards on here telling me gold is worthless.     It goes on and on.  

Successful investing is all about timing and being able to identify undervalued assets.  Buy low, wait, then sell high.  I've done it consistently, over and over again.

[bigkid]

A little bit bigger than a blip.  This bear market will take many years to recover.

They're all blips.  Black Monday, dot com bubble, credit crunch.  On a long term dow chart, they're just a blip. 

[wrl11]

Market is back to where it was 2 months ago. Normal correction.

[Mr Anabolic]

They're all blips.  Black Monday, dot com bubble, credit crunch.  On a long term dow chart, they're just a blip. 

Tell that to 60-85 year old retirees who lose 50-70% of the 401k's and IRA's.  Pretty devastating.  It's not just the initial crash, it takes another 5-10 years (average) for the market to play catch-up.

Young people can absorb stock market down periods much better seniors.  Even so, no one likes to lose money.

[Mr Anabolic]

Market is back to where it was 2 months ago. Normal correction.

Really?  The DOW had two -1000 point losses in 1 week.  The two largest DOW point losses in history happening the same week?  That is anything but normal.  

Still, I wouldn't be surprised to see some type of retracement rally this week, then another big downturn.  Could happen quickly or take several weeks to play out.  

[gib]

Tell that to 60-85 year old retirees who lose 50-70% of the 401k's and IRA's.  Pretty devastating.  It's not just the initial crash, it takes another 5-10 years (average) for the market to play catch-up.

Young people can absorb stock market down periods much better seniors.  Even so, no one likes to lose money.

Should not be devastating at all if they have invested with a view to living off earnings yield. But yes more so if they are drawing down capital and happen to be hit by a big valuation correction.

[gib]

Although even in that scenario, for a US retiree living overseas but reliant on US stocks it may not be so bad as their stock losses will be to some extent offset by a stronger US dollar.

[Rambone]

Typical stock broker/investment advisor platitudes when the market takes a dive.  They say the same shit every time.

Make sure you include the fees, expenses and commissions these fuckers charge... some can be very expensive and over time they end up eating a large chunk of your money.

Bubbles are all over the place.  The market will only get worse as time goes by.  This Brexit thing is just the beginning.

Free advice... the best investment right now is GOLD and SILVER.

My point is that gold is a stable store of wealth.  It's going much higher in the near future.  Those green rectangles in your wallet (or electrons in a bank account) are constantly being devalued and they buy less goods and services every year.  ALL fiat currencies eventually fail.

Like I said above, timing is important.  NOW is the time for gold and silver.  Stocks and RE are a hyper bubble.  It'll be some fun when those bubbles pop.

For those keeping score at home, the S&P is +29% and gold is -1.8% from then to now. I’m not trying to pick on you because I’ve been short this market, but you have to accept the fact that NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING. Experts can’t predict directional market moves including getbig experts. You can’t call for corrections and large down days every so often and then come back and act like you told us so.

[bigkid]

Tell that to 60-85 year old retirees who lose 50-70% of the 401k's and IRA's.  Pretty devastating.  It's not just the initial crash, it takes another 5-10 years (average) for the market to play catch-up.

Young people can absorb stock market down periods much better seniors.  Even so, no one likes to lose money.

You're using hyperbole.  How many retirees are in 100% equities?  I hope none.  No one should be down 50%-70% in their portfolio in a year.  You're this sky is always falling guy.  Those guys are right once every 10-15 years and then we all have to hear about how they were right.