Another School shooting - Parkland Florida - 17 Dead

[rocket]

Ban guns you trade one tool of destruction to another. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster No firearms he waits for kids to leave school and runs 17 of them over. But hey , at least it's not a gun

If someone wants to be completely murderous without any selection, yes, there are many ways to do it.  However, many school shootings are entirely selective.  The car method isn't applicable in that situation.  Nor is a bomb.  A knife is tough to pull off etc

[robcguns]

Reports are it's a Caucasian kid.

Let's wait for Thin Lizzy to blame black people

Cruz ain’t white

[WalterWhite]

Videos starting to surface. Some dead bodies and a couple injured.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=070_1518657836

[Dave D]

If someone wants to be completely murderous without any selection, yes, there are many ways to do it.  However, many school shootings are entirely selective.  The car method isn't applicable in that situation.  Nor is a bomb.  A knife is tough to pull off etc

The reality is acts of violence and terror have taken place at America's schools since the birth of the nation. It's a part of our legacy.
 
The Bath, MI travesty was quickly forgotten because the Lindenberg baby went missing. People who want to steal, hurt or kill will find a way. The American government banned steroids and people still find a way to purchase them (adults and children/teens)

[Board_SHERIF]

THE KILLER WAS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN DREAMER  full name is Nikolas de Jesus Cruz

Just another part of Hussien's failed legacy, way to democraps way to go

[Twaddle]

THE KILLER WAS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN DREAMER  full name is Nikolas de Jesus Cruz

Just another part of Hussien's failed legacy, way to democraps way to go

DACA dreamer?  Really?   

[Fortress]

THE KILLER WAS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN DREAMER  full name is Nikolas de Jesus Cruz

Just another part of Hussien's failed legacy, way to democraps way to go

UNITY is how a society becomes successful/remains successful.

DIVERSITY creates conflict, hatred and endless compromise on ideals and values.

In a multicultural society, “one for all and all for one” cannot and will never exist.

Large populations of people are difficult enough to adequately manage as a peaceful community. When the population is comprised of differing cultures, values, beliefs, customs, etc. it’s not only an impossibility, it is the perfect recipe for destabilization, chaos and, ultimately, bloodshed and destruction.

[Zillotch]

Large populations of people are difficult enough to adequately manage as a peaceful community. When the population is comprised of differing cultures, values, beliefs, customs, etc. it’s not only an impossibility, it is the perfect recipe for destabilization, chaos and, ultimately, bloodshed and destruction.

add to that influential institutions actively fostering hatred... and engineering violence in every way possible.

[Coach is Back!]

He’s a registered Democrat Florida ID 124308057

Rumor is he’s an ANTIFA supporter

[werewolf operative]

 

[werewolf operative]

[Coach is Back!]

 

Maybe I’m wrong but didn’t Obama give millions to CAIR?

[Agnostic007]

Ridiculous opening statement.  The ease of acquisition of tools to conduct such visceral acts is clearly extremely relevant and at the very top of the list of causes.

I find that people who covet their guns often make hackneyed arguments such as this, in a vane attempt to hoodwink people into believing their nonsense.  

And it really isn't necessary to manipulate - I actually agree with you on the second point and in general - I don't really see how such acts are moderated - I 100% agree on the difficulty of removing guns from your country.

But I have to say, I find your statement that freely available arms is not the top reason for this to be entirely disrespectful to those who die at the hands of these guns.  Do you think many of these cowards would arm themselves with knives and do such acts?  Fuck no.  They would barely get anything done.  If you can't get a gun, you can't kill (that many people)

That's like saying that me getting to work in 15 minutes isn't because I have access to a freely available car, despite the fact it would take me a good 90 mins to walk there  What was it then?  My will to get to work?  That I wouldn't get paid?  Fuck no.  None of those things get me there and able to do it.

I feel quite sure that people with limited intellects will misrepresent me so I will reiterate - I neither necessarily agree with the gun control lobbyists nor agree with the gun freedom lobbyists.  I see these school shootings as virtually unstoppable and in fact, I see them as almost certainly to increase.  If someone wants to make a statement.. a big statement.. a school shooting is clearly an effective way of doing so.  It's only going to get worse.  

I mean, think about it.  Every school in the land has a bunch of a c u n ts that make some people's lives misery.  That's a lot of people to stay sane and not go murderous  

On one hand, I agree with you, that making guns easy to come by, sometimes as simple as breaking into the car in the local boot scooter bar parking lot is a problem. Easy access to high capacity weapons that were designed to kill humans makes no sense to me but some guys like to plunk cans with them so I guess we need them. On the other hand, I look to Mexico where it is illegal for citizens to have guns. So the citizens are easy prey to the bad guys that have all manner of weaponry and the desire to use it. The butchery that goes on in the border towns and along the drug routes, if accurately covered by the news, would shock many a Nintendo warrior.
At this point I'm not sure what the right answer is, but I'm not comfortable with keeping the things as they are now. Perhaps a good start is trying to reduce the amount of long rifles designed to kill humans and go from there.

[chaos]

On one hand, I agree with you, that making guns easy to come by, sometimes as simple as breaking into the car in the local boot scooter bar parking lot is a problem. Easy access to high capacity weapons that were designed to kill humans makes no sense to me but some guys like to plunk cans with them so I guess we need them. On the other hand, I look to Mexico where it is illegal for citizens to have guns. So the citizens are easy prey to the bad guys that have all manner of weaponry and the desire to use it. The butchery that goes on in the border towns and along the drug routes, if accurately covered by the news, would shock many a Nintendo warrior.
At this point I'm not sure what the right answer is, but I'm not comfortable with keeping the things as they are now. Perhaps a good start is trying to reduce the amount of long rifles designed to kill humans and go from there.

Or maybe stop disarming the law abiding citizens as punishment for the criminals actions. That's like banning aspirin because people abuse Vicodin.

[Agnostic007]

Or maybe stop disarming the law abiding citizens as punishment for the criminals actions. That's like banning aspirin because people abuse Vicodin.

If I said disarm law abiding citizens in my comment I apologize. wasn't my intent.

[Coach is Back!]

Armed security (Local police) along with training and arming one of every 10-20 teachers and faculty.

[IRON CROSS]

Let me stop getting you all upset. I know how your "kind" gets when somebody hurt their feelings.

RON, ban this imbecile.

[ESFitness]

which could mean arab, mexican or gook

Its Florida. White kid shooting up a school in Florida likely means poor white trash

[chaos]

If I said disarm law abiding citizens in my comment I apologize. wasn't my intent.

More laws will only be followed by law abiding citizens. Criminals don't follow the law...hence...they are criminals. Laws need to be loosened to level the playing field.

[Agnostic007]

More laws will only be followed by law abiding citizens. Criminals don't follow the law...hence...they are criminals. Laws need to be loosened to level the playing field.

Serious question. Do you see value in allowing long guns such as the AR15, a weapon designed to kill humans, to continue to be available?

[Zillotch]

a weapon designed to kill humans

lol... super weak troll, homie

[Twaddle]

Serious question. Do you see value in allowing long guns such as the AR15, a weapon designed to kill humans, to continue to be available?

I do.  They make great defense weapons.   

[werewolf operative]

Serious question. Do you see value in allowing long guns such as the AR15, a weapon designed to kill humans, to continue to be available?

Third deadliest shooting in US history.

Blacksburg, Virginia - Virginia Tech - 32 dead

April 16, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho, 23, killed 32 people in two shooting scenes at a dorm and then in a classroom building on the Virginia Tech campus in Blacksburg, Virginia. He then killed himself.




Handguns...

[Agnostic007]

Third deadliest shooting in US history.

Blacksburg, Virginia - Virginia Tech - 32 dead

April 16, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho, 23, killed 32 people in two shooting scenes at a dorm and then in a classroom building on the Virginia Tech campus in Blacksburg, Virginia. He then killed himself.




Handguns...

Fair enough. The task at hand seems to be reducing the risk without impeding Americans rights to own guns. Uzi's aren't allowed.. not sure why. Automatic weapons aren't allowed without a special permit, no clue why that is.. I should be able to shoot as many deer as possible if I want but in tackling the question "Is there anything we can do to reduce the risk" it seems to be that removing long gun weapons designed for killing humans would be an easy one we could agree on.  

[Zillotch]

Handguns...

don't tell me those things were designed to kill people... that would b insane.