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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2018, 08:04:40 PM »
Some of the people you listed didn't even have real hits, but I didn't say there were no "conscious rappers" who were ever popular. My point is that there was never an era in hip hop where that was the dominant style, so it's not a real thing to say things have gone off-track. If anything, when you look at who the most commercially successful and acclaimed  black rappers are right now, the opposite is true.

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2018, 08:16:26 PM »
Oh yeah, I don't know any rappers or rap groups from 1991 (Cypress's debut) who are still doing it today. Ice Cube, Dre, even Eminem pretty much all retired from rap. Gotta let the new generation in.

Eminem headlined Coachella this year. One of the biggest music festivals in the world. He was the final performer of the 3 day festival. This is an aerial picture taken looking out over the crowd from the top of the stage. Yeah, he's still a bit relevant, and still a bit popular


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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2018, 08:17:59 PM »
Eminem headlined Coachella this year. One of the biggest music festivals in the world. He was the final performer of the 3 day festival. This is an aerial picture taken looking out over the crowd from the top of the stage. Yeah, he's still a bit relevant, and still a bit popular


We get it, he tours a lot. My follow-up posts clearly intended to show the paucity of album releases on his and others' part, rather than not being active in the industry at all. He's obviously still involved behind the scenes since he owns a record label and does some producing, but in terms of the output he had in the late 90s, that's done.

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2018, 08:28:31 PM »
Concerts don't mean shit

most people who buy their music don't go to live concerts

But with no record sales, there's no major tours

We get it, he tours a lot.

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2018, 08:44:51 PM »
Ice Cube discography in the last 12 years (3 albums):

Laugh Now, Cry Later   
Released: June 6, 2006
Label: Lench Mob Records
Format: CD
4   2   46   —   9   63   129   —   33   152   
RIAA: Gold[10]
MC: Gold[12]

Raw Footage   
Released: August 19, 2008
Label: Lench Mob Records
Format: CD
5   1   58   96   14   53   —   —   —   —   

I Am the West   
Released: September 28, 2010
Label: Lench Mob
Format: CD

Eminem discography in the last 12 years (4 albums):

Released: May 15, 2009[69]
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download
1   1   1   1   1   2   1   1   2   1   
WW: 4,400,000[5]
US: 2,363,000[70]
FRA: 69,450[71]
UK: 512,911[38]
RIAA: 2× Platinum[39]
ARIA: Platinum[72]
BEA: Gold[73]
BPI: Platinum[41]
BVMI: Gold[50]
IFPI SWI: Platinum[43]
RIAJ: Gold[74]
RMNZ: Platinum[75]
SNEP: Gold[76]

Recovery   
Released: June 18, 2010[77]
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download
1   1   1   1   1   2   6   1   1   1   
WW: 8,200,000[36]
US: 4,509,000[37]
CAN: 435,000[78]
FRA: 110,000[79]
UK: 900,000[38]
RIAA: 3× Platinum[39]
ARIA: 4× Platinum[80]
BEA: Gold[81]
BPI: 3× Platinum[41]
BVMI: Platinum[50]
IFPI: Platinum[58]
IFPI SWI: Platinum[43]
MC: Platinum[44]
RIAJ: Gold[82]
RMNZ: Platinum[83]
SNEP: Platinum[84]

The Marshall Mathers LP 2   
Released: November 5, 2013
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download
1   1   1   1   2   1   10   1   1   1   
WW: 4,500,000[36]
US: 2,244,000[85]
CAN: 365,000[86]
FR: 160,000[87]
UK: 600,000[88]
RIAA: 4× Platinum[39]
ARIA: 2× Platinum[80]
BEA: Gold[89]
BPI: 2× Platinum[41]
BVMI: Platinum[50]
IFPI SWI: Platinum[43]
MC: 4× Platinum[44]
RMNZ: Platinum[90]
SNEP: Platinum[87]

Revival   
Released: December 15, 2017[91]
Label: Shady, Aftermath, Interscope, Goliath
Format: CD, LP, digital download





Wow, 2-3 albums in the last 12 years, yeah these guys are clearly in their prime.

Concerts don't mean shit, bands from the 80s still do them yet havent sold an album in 30 years. Record sales are pretty much the only thing that matters.
There's this new invention called the Internet. It lets you download the albums instead of buying them at CD shops. They still grade those downloads the same as record sales. iTunes is one major marketplace where this is done, but there's others like Spotify. Tell Taylor Swift that her multi-platinum album sales aren't real or paying anything. Pretty sure they paid for her mansions and her cars.

Touring is a bonus, it supports an album and is definitely a cash draw, and it helps keep them on the map if they aren't releasing music anymore; but most people who buy their music don't go to live concerts and setting them up costs a fortune (roadies, technicians, security staff, hotels, planes, leasing fees for the venue, ticket sales to Ticketmaster or other providers), which cuts into profits in a way making a record doesn't (other than paying the production staff and giving the label its cut).

Like I said, people who support the artist don't get the music for free weeks or months after it's released. They buy their albums when they become available through streaming services or download them. This actually makes MORE money for the artist because unlike in the age of cassettes and CDs, there's no need for packaging or distribution costs. Regular CDs are still pressed but in much smaller numbers, which cuts overheads.

The numbers are there for you to look at when you're done being a gimmicky contrarian dipshit.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/week-album-sales-taylor-swift-68669

That's your perception, but you haven't disproven anything I wrote. Which is classic gimmick behavior, bait & hook. Once I shut you down with links and facts, you've got nothing left but hot air and ad hominems. Same old 2-step. Didn't mention anything about young guys, you came up with that all by your gimmicky self.

Hasn't released an album in 8 years. How is he still at if he has no record deal? Anybody can tour, even an autist like you.

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2018, 08:46:06 PM »
I could quote you back your own posts too but I don't want to stress the ratherbebig-stan diego similarity of posting and vendetta-like digging. Your decoy's safe with me, bro.

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2018, 11:33:57 PM »
The less arabic influences in the world, the better.
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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2018, 11:35:20 PM »
Gotta let the new generation in.

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« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2018, 11:36:31 PM »
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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2018, 11:37:15 PM »
The less arabic influences in the world, the better.

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #60 on: August 15, 2018, 01:08:11 AM »

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #61 on: August 15, 2018, 03:03:53 AM »
Some of the people you listed didn't even have real hits, but I didn't say there were no "conscious rappers" who were ever popular. My point is that there was never an era in hip hop where that was the dominant style, so it's not a real thing to say things have gone off-track. If anything, when you look at who the most commercially successful and acclaimed  black rappers are right now, the opposite is true.
Quite true.

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #62 on: August 15, 2018, 03:15:09 AM »
Public Enema was very popular back in the day.

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #63 on: August 15, 2018, 06:16:13 AM »
Public Enema was very popular back in the day.




Public Enemy had strength and masculinity.


Today’s rappers are weak, feminine, and look like deviants

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #64 on: August 15, 2018, 06:49:11 AM »
Public Enemy used to promote that black supremacist idiot Louis Farrakhan.

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #65 on: August 15, 2018, 07:48:28 AM »
Public Enemy used to promote that black supremacist idiot Louis Farrakhan.

Yes they did. Farrakhan decieved a lot of people in that era. In fact, I believe that Public Enemy almost broke up after anti-Semitic comments started being spoken publicly. The group just ended up firing the group member who made the remarks.

I believe that Public Enemy moved away from that sort of speech after that.

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« Reply #66 on: August 15, 2018, 10:32:51 AM »
Yes they did. Farrakhan decieved a lot of people in that era. In fact, I believe that Public Enemy almost broke up after anti-Semitic comments started being spoken publicly. The group just ended up firing the group member who made the remarks.

I believe that Public Enemy moved away from that sort of speech after that.
They kicked out Professor Griff for about 15 years because he made anti-Semitic comments in 1989. They're not about racism, but black unity and black power at a time when the black community was very divided and economically in the doldrums (1987-1994). Their albums after that period were less focused on black poverty/drug use and made little or no mention of the Nation of Islam. Ice Cube was photographed at an NOI ceremony in the early 90s and several other rappers associated with the Nation too during that time. But people forget this was almost 30 years ago...they've all moved on by now.

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #67 on: August 15, 2018, 11:15:22 AM »
That was terrible, couldn’t last more than 30 seconds and that was too long.

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Re: Cypress Hill is back with some arab influenced music!
« Reply #68 on: August 15, 2018, 11:19:02 AM »
Medio Loco en el coco   was a great song back in the day




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