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2018 Olympia - Can Phil Heath come back to regain the title?
« on: September 16, 2018, 11:02:52 PM »
Would be interested to Chris Aceto or other gurus might think.

Here's my suggestion - stop all insulin entirely, and indeed all drugs entirely for next 5 months - but keep the training and cardio.

7 month build up to Mr O. Stay super lean throughout. Stick to basic "classic cycle". Test, HGH, and then tren with a few orals mixed in, and go hard on the clen last 4 weeks and diuretics last 48 hours. Come in around 8kg lighter by Muntzerlike conditioning
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2018, 01:29:25 AM »
stopping all drugs for 5 months he will e 180 lbs max  ::) ::) ::)
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2018, 01:38:56 AM »
Quote from: gib on September 16, 2018, 11:02:52 PM
Would be interested to Chris Aceto or other gurus might think.

Here's my suggestion - stop all insulin entirely, and indeed all drugs entirely for next 5 months - but keep the training and cardio.

7 month build up to Mr O. Stay super lean throughout. Stick to basic "classic cycle". Test, HGH, and then tren with a few orals mixed in, and go hard on the clen last 4 weeks and diuretics last 48 hours. Come in around 8kg lighter by Muntzerlike conditioning

Phil has read this and has taken it on board.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2018, 05:17:24 AM »
Cretin.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2018, 05:27:48 AM »
His gut is busted out from a hernia, he's had 2 operations to fix it, it still looks bad. Nothing is putting the genie back in the bottle.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2018, 05:34:52 AM »
Roelly had a gigantic stomach (even Rhodens was bad at least one of the years) and though it isn't great now it definitely has slimmed down so something must be able to be done it seems.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2018, 05:52:20 AM »
Needs to add creatine to his stack.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2018, 06:54:29 AM »
he needs to join gh15 in the quest for the NQK (november quality kigs)
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2018, 06:54:46 AM »
His receptors are saturated like all the bodybuilders who gas year round for 10 years or more. His body is maxed out. He’s showing signs of palumboism. There’s nothing he can do but switch to free weights and lay off the insulin. But he’ll shrink fast because he’s not bigger than you or me off the candy.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2018, 07:02:23 AM »
Quote from: Kwon3 on September 17, 2018, 06:54:46 AM
His receptors are saturated like all the bodybuilders who gas year round for 10 years or more. His body is maxed out. He’s showing signs of palumboism. There’s nothing he can do but switch to free weights and lay off the insulin. But he’ll shrink fast because he’s not bigger than you or me off the candy.

I reckon he'd need a year or 2 off everything besides a low test dosage to have a chance of recovering his structure a little. I'd also keep the food low to shrink the stomach and do some detox stuff that flushes all the shit out. I think it should be possible to reverse palumboism as long as it doesn't get to the terminal level. Phillipe's head, nose and jaw growth shows he's been abusing things very, very hard.

If he comes back blasting next year the palumboism will be edging closer to lennyism.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2018, 07:06:55 AM »
Get 2 ribs removed surgically,  also liposuction around the love handles.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2018, 07:48:11 AM »
Quote from: a_pupil on September 17, 2018, 07:02:23 AM
I reckon he'd need a year or 2 off everything besides a low test dosage to have a chance of recovering his structure a little. I'd also keep the food low to shrink the stomach and do some detox stuff that flushes all the shit out. I think it should be possible to reverse palumboism as long as it doesn't get to the terminal level. Phillipe's head, nose and jaw growth shows he's been abusing things very, very hard.

If he comes back blasting next year the palumboism will be edging closer to lennyism.

Get real. The moment these guys change their drug stack, they shrink. He’s a prisoner to his unholy concoction of pharmaceuticals, like Jay and Ronnie were when they started shooting oil because the drugs weren’t working anymore. Mental illness.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2018, 08:14:06 AM »
Quote from: Kwon3 on September 17, 2018, 07:48:11 AM
Get real. The moment these guys change their drug stack, they shrink. He’s a prisoner to his unholy concoction of pharmaceuticals, like Jay and Ronnie were when they started shooting oil because the drugs weren’t working anymore. Mental illness.

to go off and shrink is probably the only way to fix palumboism as it is most likely caused by the industrial amounts of slin and hgh he uses.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2018, 08:42:46 AM »
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2018, 08:43:17 AM »
He can up the dose I guess
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2018, 08:55:40 AM »
Quote from: a_pupil on September 17, 2018, 08:14:06 AM
to go off and shrink is probably the only way to fix palumboism as it is most likely caused by the industrial amounts of slin and hgh he uses.

Organs don’t shrink once they’re grown by GH. See Ronnie’s and Dave’s stomachs today. GH and slin are bad news.

Quote from: Hulkotron on September 17, 2018, 08:43:17 AM
He can up the dose I guess

See: point of diminishing returns. It won’t help. His receptors are SHOT.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2018, 09:03:45 AM »
Quote from: Kwon3 on September 17, 2018, 08:55:40 AM
Organs don’t shrink once they’re grown by GH. See Ronnie’s and Dave’s stomachs today. GH and slin are bad news.

See: point of diminishing returns. It won’t help. His receptors are SHOT.
Palumbo's stomach is nonexistent,  he's a skeleton
 Dorian said he did a scan of his entire body and had no organ growth.  Ronnie is still on hgh for sure, so cant really use him as a example here.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2018, 09:12:41 AM »
Quote from: The Keto Kid on September 17, 2018, 09:03:45 AM
Palumbo's stomach is nonexistent,  he's a skeleton
 Dorian said he did a scan of his entire body and had no organ growth.  Ronnie is still on hgh for sure, so cant really use him as a example here.
He shrank, so his stomach did too. He still has a gut.

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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2018, 09:53:52 AM »
Quote from: Kwon3 on September 17, 2018, 09:12:41 AM
He shrank, so his stomach did too. He still has a gut.


His gut looks pretty flat here and he's skinnier now.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2018, 03:03:43 PM »
increase b12 dose.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2018, 03:52:36 PM »
He can easily come back and win he just needs to come in lighter and keep the gut in check, the main issue is the gut and his waist it throws him off from the front poses. I think he can come back and win around 8-10 lbs lighter, I personally prefer Rhodens build, but I can see Phil getting motivated and ripped next year and pulling it back
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2018, 06:24:04 PM »
3 points between 1st and 2nd
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2018, 07:15:15 PM »
Quote from: a_pupil on September 17, 2018, 07:02:23 AM
I reckon he'd need a year or 2 off everything besides a low test dosage to have a chance of recovering his structure a little. I'd also keep the food low to shrink the stomach and do some detox stuff that flushes all the shit out. I think it should be possible to reverse palumboism as long as it doesn't get to the terminal level. Phillipe's head, nose and jaw growth shows he's been abusing things very, very hard.

If he comes back blasting next year the palumboism will be edging closer to lennyism.

I fully agree with this. And a shrunken Phil will actually look super hard and tight when he blows up again. Problem is that mentally these guys struggle with the thought of shrinking.
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2018, 11:15:27 PM »
Phil's done

palumboism irreversible, esp when the gut is affected
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Re: What can Phil do, drug-wise, to come back and regain Mr O
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2018, 02:11:51 AM »
It has nothing to do with the drugs.

Phil just needs to use more free weights.
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