Roof de-icing cable

[Coach is Back!]

Coach is WRONG. Regardless of any home...they all have attics for a reason. Newer homes are built tight...usually they have their systems in the attics but you run into problems either way.


You are wrong...95% of homes built throughout the Northeast HAVE SOFFIT VENTS...AND RIDGE VENTS.

Insulation is the number one cause of Ice Damns. Period.

Now LOG OFF GETBIG.





WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

Now you’re just trolling. And it’s ice DAM Mensa boy.

[Dave D]

Oh Dear

Marines?

I wouldn't make that known.

So you're in the same catagory as the dude that had his penis cut off by a woman?

The big bad Marine couldn't stop that...John Wayne Bobbit.

Do yourself a favour....LOG OFF NOW...Go get your Marine Skirt outta the closet, take a bus to Pondarosa and eat one of those welfare steaks because you're a blue collar $50 thousand dollar a year BUM.







WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

You cant win here.

We have an American military vet that WORKED his way through school and may or may not make 50k and hes being called a bum by SoCal living Canadian transplant who was BORN with a photographic  memory and a high iq.

Alex you're flaunting gift as if you earned it.

[Fallsview]

Now you’re just trolling. And it’s ice DAM Mensa boy.

How am I trolling?

You are out of touch my friend. Go Gossip with some High School Football players trying to relive your past failures like Uncle Rico.

You make no sense.

The number ONE REASON FOR ICE DAMNS IS INSULATION..

If it wasn't then you would have no problem with a freeze then thaw then freeze.

Your Attic is suppose to be the same temp it is outside.

If it isn't...then YOU HAVE HEAT ESCAPING YOUR HOME INTO YOUR NON LIVABLE SPACE....DUMMY.

https://extension.umn.edu/protecting-home-rain-and-ice/dealing-and-preventing-ice-dams




HERE'S ONE THAT WILL BLOW YOUR MINDS...COLD SPACES ATTRACT BTU'S...DUMMY'S




YOU WILL NEVER WALK WITH FALLSVIEW!!!!!! LOG OFF OF GETBIG NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fallsview]

You cant win here.

We have an American military vet that WORKED his way through school and may or may not make 50k and hes being called a bum by SoCal living Canadian transplant who was BORN with a photographic  memory and a high iq.

Alex you're flaunting gift as if you earned it.

Oh well La Dee Freeking Da....He's Military....So? I don't give respect...its earned. What has he done besides flunking out of high school and going the path of least resistance with joining a branch of the military known for their "easy" work ethic?

In fact I don't even believe he was in the Marines more like the Peace Corp or Coast Guard. 

I earned everything I have achieved. Everything. By taking the right supplements at the right time I have made my thinking like a well oiled machine with pin point accuracy. Unlike Coach who has destroyed brain cells by the use of vet steroids.


And Double D, what gives you the right to question or defend anyone on this board?


What I want you to do is shut your dam mouth, log off of GetBig and walk your ass down to Ralphs and buy the tampons you so desperately need.






WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

[illuminati]

Coach is WRONG. Regardless of any home...they all have attics for a reason. Newer homes are built tight...usually they have their systems in the attics but you run into problems either way.


You are wrong...95% of homes built throughout the Northeast HAVE SOFFIT VENTS...AND RIDGE VENTS.

Insulation is the number one cause of Ice Damns. Period.

Now LOG OFF GETBIG.





WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

Now you’re just trolling. And it’s ice DAM Mensa boy.

  Hmmmmm
Supposedly Mensa member  
Yet can’t spell.

To many letters in that word no doubt.
 

[Fallsview]

  Hmmmmm
Supposedly Mensa member  
Yet can’t spell.

To many letters in that word no doubt.
 

What grade do you teach dummy?

So you're grading me?

What was your final grade on your High School Equivalency test?


You're hanging around Coach too much...you've just achieved Second Hand Stupid.


Now....


What I want you to do is log off GetBig...walk your sorry ass down to Ralphs, meet up with Dave and share that box of tampons.






WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

[illuminati]

What grade do you teach dummy?

So you're grading me?

What was your final grade on your High School Equivalency test?


You're hanging around Coach too much...you've just achieved Second Hand Stupid.


Now....


What I want you to do is log off GetBig...walk your sorry ass down to Ralphs, meet up with Dave and share that box of tampons.






WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

Ohh dear ohh dear
The the Internet Mensa Idiot is offended

Damn or is that dam
You’re so Intellectually Scary
😂😂😂😂😂

WHO WANTS TO BE AS THICK AS YOU

[Coach is Back!]

Ohh dear ohh dear
The the Internet Mensa Idiot is offended

Damn or is that dam
You’re so Intellectually Scary
😂😂😂😂😂

WHO WANTS TO BE AS THICK AS YOU

Maybe his photographic memory didn't include spelling

[Fallsview]

Ohh dear ohh dear
The the Internet Mensa Idiot is offended

Damn or is that dam
You’re so Intellectually Scary
😂😂😂😂😂

WHO WANTS TO BE AS THICK AS YOU

LOL....

Illuminati and Coach....two oldies....And here I thought Coach was only interested in High Schoolers...to train that is.


What do you guys do together, boil up some cabbage and Finaplex H cartridges? Rub it on your joints with Ben Gay? 


Dumb and Dumber.





WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

[Tapeworm]

These roofing threads are tearing this forum apart!

[WalterWhite]

These roofing threads are tearing this forum apart!

We need to add a construction sub forum now.

PS attic insulation

[Irongrip400]

Ok, now I know who you are. Glad you’re back!

[illuminati]

LOL....

Illuminati and Coach....two oldies....And here I thought Coach was only interested in High Schoolers...to train that is.


What do you guys do together, boil up some cabbage and Finaplex H cartridges? Rub it on your joints with Ben Gay? 


Dumb and Dumber.





WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

Ohh No
Or should that be Know

Yet another pathetic attempt at a reply
From the resident Mensa Idiot

Here’s an idea for you - Why not try physically threatening Me
Or Talk to Your Servant Ron & Get Me & Coach Banned.  

Remember Fool you’ve already tried those Threats  
To No Avail.

Every Forum Needs a Idiot to Laugh at & Ridicule
Getbig has You.


WHO WANTS TO LAUGH AT & RIDICULE YOU. = EVERYONE.

[Fallsview]

Ohh No
Or should that be Know

Yet another pathetic attempt at a reply
From the resident Mensa Idiot

Here’s an idea for you - Why not try physically threatening Me
Or Talk to Your Servant Ron & Get Me & Coach Banned.  

Remember Fool you’ve already tried those Threats  
To No Avail.

Every Forum Needs a Idiot to Laugh at & Ridicule
Getbig has You.


WHO WANTS TO LAUGH AT & RIDICULE YOU. = EVERYONE.

WOW...You really are a DOPE.


Tell me....


Did that 504 Plan help you in school?

Let me guess...You were in an 8-1-1 classroom?

How long did it take you to get rid of the helmet?

Any fond memories of riding on the short bus?

How long was the leash your Mama kept you on?

How many variance's did you have to meet your special ed. needs?

I bet you felt special having a consultant teacher having to read you every question and all.

How was lunch since you couldn't be trusted with sharp objects?

Did your IEP say that you could shit your pants three times a day in order to pay attention better?








You have no clue who you're talking to Stupid.


Illuminati...Do yourself a favour, LOG OFF NOW...go to the bathroom and take a dump like normal people.







WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

 

[illuminati]

WOW...You really are a DOPE.


Tell me....


Did that 504 Plan help you in school?

Let me guess...You were in an 8-1-1 classroom?

How long did it take you to get rid of the helmet?

Any fond memories of riding on the short bus?

How long was the leash your Mama kept you on?

How many variance's did you have to meet your special ed. needs?

I bet you felt special having a consultant teacher having to read you every question and all.

How was lunch since you couldn't be trusted with sharp objects?

Did your IEP say that you could shit your pants three times a day in order to pay attention better?








You have no clue who you're talking to Stupid.


Illuminati...Do yourself a favour, LOG OFF NOW...go to the bathroom and take a dump like normal people.







WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

 

Dam
Or is that
Damn

Like a bad smell your still here.

Ohhh I’m so frightened I have no idea who I’m talking to 
More veiled threats = Pathetic

Are We Banned Yet
I’ve no need to log off as your going to ban Me. 

I Did Go Take A Dump & It Got Up & Started Posting
On Getbig Under The Name of FallsView.

WHO WANTS TO BE BANNED BY YOU

[Fallsview]

Dam
Or is that
Damn

Like a bad smell your still here.

Ohhh I’m so frightened I have no idea who I’m talking to  
More veiled threats = Pathetic

Are We Banned Yet
I’ve no need to log off as your going to ban Me.  

I Did Go Take A Dump & It Got Up & Started Posting
On Getbig Under The Name of FallsView.

WHO WANTS TO BE BANNED BY YOU

What the hell are you talking about?


Banned? You really are fricking stupid.


Seriously...you really are handicapped. I know I struck a nerve with the Learning Disability stuff but man...this is pure GOLD!!!!



A grown adult worried about being banned.


Tantrum...CRY BABY. Boo Whoo!!!


Go back to the other board and deal with you crap over there we've had enough of your ignorance on here already. In fact take Coach since he probably lost his home by now too.  






WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?




P.S. Feels good to be in your head...you dummy.

[Coach is Back!]

What the hell are you talking about?


Banned? You really are fricking stupid.


Seriously...you really are handicapped. I know I struck a nerve with the Learning Disability stuff but man...this is pure GOLD!!!!



A grown adult worried about being banned.


Tantrum...CRY BABY. Boo Whoo!!!


Go back to the other board and deal with you crap over there we've had enough of your ignorance on here already. In fact take Coach since he probably lost his home by now too.  






WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?




P.S. Feels good to be in your head...you dummy.

Actually, far from it. Tomorrow night I’ll take a pic from my patio at sunset overlooking the beach and ocean. You should have saved your college $$ and became a glorified tire flipper.

[Dave D]

Oh well La Dee Freeking Da....He's Military....So? I don't give respect...its earned. What has he done besides flunking out of high school and going the path of least resistance with joining a branch of the military known for their "easy" work ethic?

In fact I don't even believe he was in the Marines more like the Peace Corp or Coast Guard. 

I earned everything I have achieved. Everything. By taking the right supplements at the right time I have made my thinking like a well oiled machine with pin point accuracy. Unlike Coach who has destroyed brain cells by the use of vet steroids.


And Double D, what gives you the right to question or defend anyone on this board?


What I want you to do is shut your dam mouth, log off of GetBig and walk your ass down to Ralphs and buy the tampons you so desperately need.






WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

I want to be smarter.

Which Ralph's location: Haven, Milliken or Highland? Can I go to Food4less instead, they are also a Kroger property and they offer a reasonable financial savings on many products.


I didn't imply you dont work hard for your success I said you have genetic advantages.

Dont take your emotional frustrations with Coachs success out on the getbig collective Lostsight.

[obsidian]

Coach is WRONG. Regardless of any home...they all have attics for a reason. Newer homes are built tight...usually they have their systems in the attics but you run into problems either way.


You are wrong...95% of homes built throughout the Northeast HAVE SOFFIT VENTS...AND RIDGE VENTS.

Insulation is the number one cause of Ice Damns. Period.

Now LOG OFF GETBIG.


WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

I have seen many older homes that do not have soffit vents. And some homes have knee wall attics and another attic at the top. If the second floor is built into the roof line there will be many clipped ceilings and if you have 2x6 rafters you cannot insulate that sloped part of the ceiling. You can add baffles but need to keep it open so the knee wall attic can vent up to the upper attic in the absence of a soffit vent. Some older homes can be modified to have soffit vents along the eaves but it is a big job that will not be cheap.

Hey Fallsview, you are absolutely correct good and proper insulation along with good venting will eliminate ice dams. You are also 100% correct that the attic has to be unconditioned and the same temperature as the outside. You want an ice cold attic in the winter.

Now there are other things you can do with a warmer attic. You can install a metal roof on cross battens. There will be an air gap between the metal roof panels and the sheathing and the heat will not transfer as easily from the warm attic to the metal roof. That will also help to reduce ice dams.

Fallsview, what are you going to do if you want an insulated cathedral ceiling? You go with a super insulated, unvented attic space. In this case the attic is living space since it is a cathedral ceiling. You insulate the entire outside of the roof with rigid foam insulation and you can add another layer of unfaced insulation on the interior that will dry out. If it is faced insulation moisture could travel from the exterior and get trapped because of the vapor barrier and that could lead to rotted sheathing.

https://www.finehomebuilding.com/2011/11/10/an-unvented-superinsulated-roof

[obsidian]

Bad insulation / air leaks and bad venting create another even bigger problem than ice dams: moisture / humidity in the attic.

https://fyi.uwex.edu/house/about-the-house/moisture-problems/

[illuminati]

What the hell are you talking about?


Banned? You really are fricking stupid.


Seriously...you really are handicapped. I know I struck a nerve with the Learning Disability stuff but man...this is pure GOLD!!!!



A grown adult worried about being banned.


Tantrum...CRY BABY. Boo Whoo!!!


Go back to the other board and deal with you crap over there we've had enough of your ignorance on here already. In fact take Coach since he probably lost his home by now too.  






WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?




P.S. Feels good to be in your head...you dummy.

Dam
Or do I mean Damn

Hey Member of Somlian branch of Mensa
Entry qualification IQ of 49.

Are you back tracking ?
Did you not in a previous thread
1, Attempt to physically threaten Me   
2, Threaten Me with being Banned

As I don’t know who I’m dealing with & You are
Best Buddies with Ron.

Retard NO I’m not worried about being Banned
You want to Give it The Big I Am
So I’ll call you out over it.

As You called pulled up over spelling
Grow some Testicular Fortitude
Man the Fuck up
Admit it
And Move on.


WHO WANTS TO LEARN TO SPELL WITH YOU

[Fallsview]

I have seen many older homes that do not have soffit vents. And some homes have knee wall attics and another attic at the top. If the second floor is built into the roof line there will be many clipped ceilings and if you have 2x6 rafters you cannot insulate that sloped part of the ceiling. You can add baffles but need to keep it open so the knee wall attic can vent up to the upper attic in the absence of a soffit vent. Some older homes can be modified to have soffit vents along the eaves but it is a big job that will not be cheap.

Hey Fallsview, you are absolutely correct good and proper insulation along with good venting will eliminate ice dams. You are also 100% correct that the attic has to be unconditioned and the same temperature as the outside. You want an ice cold attic in the winter.

Now there are other things you can do with a warmer attic. You can install a metal roof on cross battens. There will be an air gap between the metal roof panels and the sheathing and the heat will not transfer as easily from the warm attic to the metal roof. That will also help to reduce ice dams.

Fallsview, what are you going to do if you want an insulated cathedral ceiling? You go with a super insulated, unvented attic space. In this case the attic is living space since it is a cathedral ceiling. You insulate the entire outside of the roof with rigid foam insulation and you can add another layer of unfaced insulation on the interior that will dry out. If it is faced insulation moisture could travel from the exterior and get trapped because of the vapor barrier and that could lead to rotted sheathing.

https://www.finehomebuilding.com/2011/11/10/an-unvented-superinsulated-roof

Try to follow....I write in points to make it easier for the dummies.


1. While roof ventilation can lower the risk of ice damming it is ESSENTIAL FOR BUILDERS TO LIMIT THE FLOW OF HEAT ESCAPING INTO THE ROOF.

2. Cathedral Ceilings are NOT married to the roof dummie...THERE IS AN AIR BARRIER....WHICH SHOULD BE FILLED WITH SPRAY FOAM TO MAKE IT LEAK TIGHT.

3. IN THE ABSENCE OF AN AIRTIGHT CEILING...ROOF VENTILATION CAN DO MORE HARM....why? BECAUSE OF MOISTURE!!!!!!! Moisture leads to MOULD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4. In the PAST builders believed a CATHEDRAL CEILING HAD TO BE VENTED...IT DOES NOT...BUT NEEDS A BARRIER THAT IS LEAK TIGHT...USUALLY 1 TO 2 INCHES...SPRAY FOAM.


Okay...take for an example an ABANDONED HOME  in the middle of WINTER. All services are cut off (like Coaches house and gym) Are there any ICE DAMS?
No because there is no heat.

Escaping heat causes ICE DAMS.

You are not following what I previously said....Some attics CAN BE AIR TIGHT BECAUSE THEY KEEP THEIR MECHANICALS IN THERE.  What does AIRTIGHT MEAN? SEALED!!!!! NO ESCAPING HEAT. AND ITS THE SAME TEMP AS THE REST OF OF THE HOUSE...NOT TEMP OUTSIDE.





DID YOU LEARN SOMETHING?




WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

[Fallsview]

Dam
Or do I mean Damn

Hey Member of Somlian branch of Mensa
Entry qualification IQ of 49.

Are you back tracking ?
Did you not in a previous thread
1, Attempt to physically threaten Me   
2, Threaten Me with being Banned

As I don’t know who I’m dealing with & You are
Best Buddies with Ron.

Retard NO I’m not worried about being Banned
You want to Give it The Big I Am
So I’ll call you out over it.

As You called pulled up over spelling
Grow some Testicular Fortitude
Man the Fuck up
Admit it
And Move on.


WHO WANTS TO LEARN TO SPELL WITH YOU

Look at you...what a moron.



I bet that post took you a full two hours to complete.










WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

[dan18]

Oh well La Dee Freeking Da....He's Military....So? I don't give respect...its earned. What has he done besides flunking out of high school and going the path of least resistance with joining a branch of the military known for their "easy" work ethic?

In fact I don't even believe he was in the Marines more like the Peace Corp or Coast Guard. 

I earned everything I have achieved. Everything. By taking the right supplements at the right time I have made my thinking like a well oiled machine with pin point accuracy. Unlike Coach who has destroyed brain cells by the use of vet steroids.


And Double D, what gives you the right to question or defend anyone on this board?


What I want you to do is shut your dam mouth, log off of GetBig and walk your ass down to Ralphs and buy the tampons you so desperately need.






WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSVIEW?

Once again you attack people because of your own inadequacies and no I didn't fail out of school I was a B student had to be in order to play sports. 2] I  joined the marines because I wanted to serve best thing ive ever done except for my two boys. the benefits of college tuition mostly paid for... Ive earned everything on my own in life nice house great wife great job and I make more than 80k a year the full amount is none of your business..

So stop trying to cut people down all the time you should assess your own life and what have you accomplished,
Also I was in parris island December 22nd 1984 3rd battalion H Company troop class 3015



NO ONE WANTS TO WALK WITH FALLSFAIL............... ....

[Coach is Back!]

Is Fallsview still trying to science his explaination out something that needs immediate attention or does he just want to rebuild Slappers house in the middle of winter and start from scratch?