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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2019, 01:32:32 PM »
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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2019, 01:39:43 PM »
let's check out hawaii some more

"Many family work several jobs, live paycheck to paycheck, have substandard (by mainland comparison) housing conditions, very little expendable income and at any moment are living on the financial edge."   True.  Because generally when someone becomes college educated in a field of decent employment opportunities, they haul ass off the island.

"One of the worst places to start a business"  True

"Near the bottom in public education"  TRUE!!

"Pay is below national averages despite much higher cost of living."  True, but sort of expected.

"First time home ownership nearly impossible"  True.

"Traffic is really bad. On some parts of Oahu people have to get up at 5am to get to work by 8am"  True

"Fewer choices, less competition, poorer service, higher prices. For a while there was a popular bumper sticker “Ainokea!” (pronounced eye-no-kay-ah) which is local slang for “I no care”.  True

"You may not recover from the culture shock. Hawaiians are on the top of the heap, followed by other Polynesians, then Asians, and finally the Haoles."  The biggest culture shock I had was the very first time I visited the island and saw all the Japanese there... I was like "WTF???  We won the war, how did they get the island?"

"Everything is really crowded. Find a good restaurant? You’ll have to wait for an hour. New product announcement? Lines around the block. Big concert in town? Sold out in an hour. Big shopping sale at the mall? You’ll never find parking. Big event anywhere? Traffic backed up for miles. Big surf event? You can’t get near the place."  truetruetruetruetrue

"Visiting family on the mainland is really expensive. In 2018 it’s about $600 round trip to San Francisco and $900 to Chicago or New York.  So for a family of 4, you’re looking at $2,000 to $3,200 just to get off the island. Add in $200/night for hotel, $75/day for car and a 2 week vacation starts adding up to around $10,000.  And we’re not talking about any trips abroad."  Probably true, since I don't live there, I can't say how travel in the opposite of how I do it can be.  But sounds about right.

"Less food variety.  Surprisingly, our fresh fruit selection is not very good. While we have good local supply of pineapples, bananas and papayas, fruit that has to be shipped in is rarely ripe and either overripe or underripe.  Restaurants are a problem too.  Hawaii has a large selection of Asian-centric restaurants but after that it falls off the cliff. Italian, Greek, Mexican, Pizza and the like are sorely lacking.  And don’t even try asking for locally popular foods like Philly Cheesesteaks and Chicago Italian Beef sandwiches."   True.   And a lot of shitty little dive places around that could give you food poisoning just walking by them



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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2019, 01:41:51 PM »
hawaii perfect weather



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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2019, 01:46:12 PM »
Hawaii is nice, but can be pretty expensive depending on whether you rent a beach house vs hotel. I went twice in the past and felt it was a normal place, but nothing worth what others made it out to be. The people that live there love the place and for good reason, it's their home. For a New York'er, it's probably a little slow.

Thailand (mainland), particularly Bangkok was pretty shitty if you ask me. The US dollar goes a very long way and half of the people I would walk by (men, women and men disguised as women) would offer to have sex with me for as little as $20. Their food was interesting, but a little bit of a risk if you ask me.

What I will say that I loved was going to Maya Bay in Phi Phi. Back in 2003, I went there with a small group of friends, we had a tour guide that was sanctioned by the local authorities, as the place has/had no hotels or places to stay and we found it to be beautiful. I became interested in seeing the bay after watching Leonardo DiCaprio in The Beach and found it to be almost as beautiful as depicted in the movie. There is something about filmmakers and their ability to bring out the best in scenery that just can not be surpassed by the limitations of the human eye.

Anyhow, all I really wanted to do was to swim in that bay's water, while wearing waterproof headphones and listening to Moby's Porcelain. I did it and managed to cross that off my list. What I didn't like about the trip was that unlike the movie, there were numerous speedboats racing into the area and tourists (much like me) that were trying to capture that same magic as seen in the movie. Unfortunately, the bay was nowhere as desolate as what the movie depicted and much of the vegetation that was seen in the movie, was not seen in the bay.

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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2019, 03:09:15 PM »

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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2019, 03:26:09 PM »
A lose lose situation here

On one hand pellius lives in Hawaii so.... :D

On the other, sick perverted old white guys love Thailand

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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2019, 03:43:48 PM »
A lose lose situation here

On one hand pellius lives in Hawaii so.... :D

On the other, sick perverted old white guys love Thailand

Actually more young Brits backpackers than older ones, attend just 1 or 2 beach raving party & you'll see , tons of Euro pussy  ;) 8)
On some islands, hardly to see older guys.................... ...
Wish I was in Thai land in 80's  :-\
But easy 'Juice' access  ;D

A U planing to relocate like others to Poland/Hungary ..............

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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2019, 10:42:26 PM »
Actually more young Brits backpackers than older ones, attend just 1 or 2 beach raving party & you'll see , tons of Euro pussy  ;) 8)
On some islands, hardly to see older guys.................... ...
Wish I was in Thai land in 80's  :-\
But easy 'Juice' access  ;D

A U planing to relocate like others to Poland/Hungary ..............

Spot on.

Most of the Western travellers are backpackers and relatively young, many travelling with their kids too.

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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2019, 10:48:41 PM »
so what do thailand and hawaii have in common

food - both have shitty food.

women - neither hawaii or thai girls rank highly when we speak about beautiful women.

locals - both have locals who hate foreigners and tourists.

weather - both have shitty weather, no variety there.

isolation - both are isolated from the rest of the world. it's like living on the moon.

culture - both have shitty culture and lack the cultural variety of the civilized world, good luck watching live sports or live music events living in either place.

traffic - a mess.







Don't forget police corruption.

And aggressive trannies!

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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2019, 12:13:27 AM »
Don't forget police corruption.

And aggressive trannies!



lol, i was there last October for a week, you must not look them in the eyes, shemales that is. They'll be on you like white on rice. I was walking down one of those streets with my friend and after we passed by a couple of shebeasts i heard one of them running after us. He was just about to grab me around my waist and i told him not to fuck around. He must have thought i told him to fuck off and dude just lost it completely. Fucker started cursing really loud and started throwing things at me. 
My experience with Pattaya, garbage everywhere, rat infested streets, disgusting shemales, nasty smell, big sewer pumps pumping shit into the sea for everybody to see(picture below), exploitation of elephants, tigers to reel in more tourists etc.
Wish i had been to other, more secluded places in Thailand.


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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2019, 01:15:46 AM »
Actually more young Brits backpackers than older ones, attend just 1 or 2 beach raving party & you'll see , tons of Euro pussy  ;) 8)
On some islands, hardly to see older guys.................... ...
Wish I was in Thai land in 80's  :-\
But easy 'Juice' access  ;D

A U planing to relocate like others to Poland/Hungary ..............


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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #61 on: January 29, 2019, 01:25:38 AM »
people in thailand are very hospitable in general. they don't like brash, loudmouthed behaviour or poor manners. so i guess your average "maga" type would not got on too well there.

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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2019, 03:08:38 AM »
lol, i was there last October for a week, you must not look them in the eyes, shemales that is. They'll be on you like white on rice. I was walking down one of those streets with my friend and after we passed by a couple of shebeasts i heard one of them running after us. He was just about to grab me around my waist and i told him not to fuck around. He must have thought i told him to fuck off and dude just lost it completely. Fucker started cursing really loud and started throwing things at me. 
My experience with Pattaya, garbage everywhere, rat infested streets, disgusting shemales, nasty smell, big sewer pumps pumping shit into the sea for everybody to see(picture below), exploitation of elephants, tigers to reel in more tourists etc.
Wish i had been to other, more secluded places in Thailand.




Sounds horrible
A real 3rd world place to avoid.

Hopefully other areas are much better.
Though i've no desire to visit.

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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2019, 03:15:29 AM »

Sounds horrible
A real 3rd world place to avoid.

Hopefully other areas are much better.
Though i've no desire to visit.

There's always Hawaii.

As long as you don't steal (or demand) Quarter Pounders you should be fine.
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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2019, 03:20:18 AM »
There's always Hawaii.

As long as you don't steal (or demand) Quarter Pounders you should be fine.

Hawaii looks to be an infinitely better place
My son in law is waiting to hear if he is going to posted there.
He's in the US coast guards - Currently at Petaluma Lovely area
of California.

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« Reply #65 on: January 29, 2019, 05:29:41 AM »
The US dollar goes a very long way and half of the people I would walk by (men, women and men disguised as women) would offer to have sex with me for as little as $20.

You must have been walking through a red light district, because regular Thai people are conservative and would never behave in this manner.

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« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2019, 05:41:50 AM »
All white countries in the top ten. :D

Happy index? That's something that is completely subjective. In the US you might be sad if you don't have a fantastic house and car. In  a hell hole you might be happy having a nice apartment and a beater car.

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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #67 on: January 29, 2019, 06:55:51 AM »
I lived and worked on Oahu for a number of years and was part of the lower/middle class. I think the whole anti-haole thing is because so many of the mainland haoles who moved to Hawaii were/are from California and Californians in general are a 'mouthy/obnoxious' group whereas Hawaiins are less verbal and more respectful. Many things a Californian would say are perceived as rude and in Hawaii that is met with "what", and then a fist.
Hawaiins probably don't realize that people from certain parts of the US (like the South) are much more akin to Hawaiins than Californians are. Respect, politeness are an integral facet of Hawaiin culture.
My friends were mostly local and I never had any problems, although they told me don't don't hang out in Nanakuli unless I was  with them lol..

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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #68 on: January 29, 2019, 07:26:17 AM »
In what way? Have you ever been to either?

He's a troll who never leaves the house.

But you morons all respond to him seriously.
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« Reply #69 on: January 29, 2019, 08:37:26 AM »
ILLUMINATI, Serious question!!

Is there really a Coast Guard Station in Pataluma, Ca.?

If I recall right ... the closest body of water near Petaluma would be the Russian River which would be a few miles west and definitely of no interest to the US Coast Guard until it meets the sea at Jenner.

And if he gets stationed in Hawaii, it's my bet that he'll really enjoy that tour of duty regardless of the adverse comments on this here Board.

The only time I saw the CG doing their job was the time a Coast Guard ship (armed to the teeth) escorted us out of the Honolulu Harbor a month or so after 9/11 as we proceeded on our cruise to Fanning Island.

But a few miles out ... and we were on our own.

But don't ask me where Fanning Island is. All I can say is ...  "It was about the size and shape of a large dough-nut  with good sized sharks in the middle."

But it ain't no shit-hole!

It's possible that no one other than myself or Go4 have ever visited Fanning Island.

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« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2019, 08:46:47 AM »
You must have been walking through a red light district, because regular Thai people are conservative and would never behave in this manner.

Correct. Unfortunately many tourists base their perception on the whole country based on these red-light districts and the areas closely surrounding them.

Most Thai couples will not even hold hands in public, kiss or show any signs of affection. They believe that behaviour belongs in private.

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« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2019, 09:25:53 AM »
lol, i was there last October for a week, you must not look them in the eyes, shemales that is. They'll be on you like white on rice. I was walking down one of those streets with my friend and after we passed by a couple of shebeasts i heard one of them running after us. He was just about to grab me around my waist and i told him not to fuck around. He must have thought i told him to fuck off and dude just lost it completely. Fucker started cursing really loud and started throwing things at me.  
My experience with Pattaya, garbage everywhere, rat infested streets, disgusting shemales, nasty smell, big sewer pumps pumping shit into the sea for everybody to see(picture below), exploitation of elephants, tigers to reel in more tourists etc.
Wish i had been to other, more secluded places in Thailand.



Pattaya is a great place, one of my favourite cities, but it's not for everyone ;D

In all my times in Thailand, never had any problems with anyone, even in Pattaya. With the prostitutes, the females and ladyboys, they will often call out and sometimes approach but have never been hostile in any way to me, they have always been good humoured.

If you just smile and laugh and say 'no, I'm ok' or 'no thanks', they will just smile and leave you alone.

Especially going to Pattaya, knowing what type of city it is, with ladyboys and prostitutes literally everywhere, one has to try and be relaxed and have a good-natured attitude.

Pattaya is different to Bangkok or anywhere else in Thailand as it is a city built around the sex, bar and nightclub industry from the Vietnam war era. Pattaya also has beautiful temples, parks, amazing neon lights and day trips can be taken to surrounding islands.


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Re: whats the bigger shithole - hawaii or thailand?
« Reply #72 on: January 29, 2019, 10:18:04 AM »
Both places are awesome! Hawaii,  awesome hiking, surfing,  kayaking,  beaches, weed. Thailand,  beaches, gyms, food, clubs, restaurants, temples.
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« Reply #73 on: January 29, 2019, 11:52:44 AM »
lol, i was there last October for a week, you must not look them in the eyes, shemales that is. They'll be on you like white on rice. I was walking down one of those streets with my friend and after we passed by a couple of shebeasts i heard one of them running after us. He was just about to grab me around my waist and i told him not to fuck around. He must have thought i told him to fuck off and dude just lost it completely. Fucker started cursing really loud and started throwing things at me. 
My experience with Pattaya, garbage everywhere, rat infested streets, disgusting shemales, nasty smell, big sewer pumps pumping shit into the sea for everybody to see(picture below), exploitation of elephants, tigers to reel in more tourists etc.
Wish i had been to other, more secluded places in Thailand.




Let me guess , U are "NOT" fat/old/bold Brit   ::)
Wow & Wow , how disappointing ..............1 week in Thailand , but just name your living paradise  ;D

OBW , only the morons would fight locals anywhere in the World.

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« Reply #74 on: January 29, 2019, 11:56:58 AM »

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