Author Topic: Sorry to say,but I do have lung cancer !  (Read 98248 times)

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Re: Sorry to say,but I do have lung cancer !
« Reply #550 on: April 10, 2020, 12:25:53 PM »
Wes God answers all prayers. He loves you and sent His only son to die on the cross for your sake and everybody else's.

 I encourage you to seek a connection with that which created you Wes. You have been afforded time, time many have run out of. Each breath you take every single one is a blessing from God as is each meal, each sunrise, each sunset.

I encourage you to consider finding a good church to attend and meet some new people. See what God has to offer. You will not regret the investment of time I promise you that. Make the effort, genuinely, with a pure heart, and see that He will make good on His end.

Deuteronomy 4:29 NKJV) “But from there you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul"

I can personally give witness that over the years He has answered every prayer and I have yet to want something and not have it (blesdings too many way too many and I am hesitant to say things like that because I might sound like im trying to sell you on something and i truly truly am not.)

Listen to your heart. Regardless of your choice I do hope and pray for your happiness peace and continued good health dude.

And yet you couldn't take the time to pray an end to cancer? At least in children? I'm finding that hard to believe

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« Reply #551 on: April 10, 2020, 12:31:53 PM »
And yet you couldn't take the time to pray an end to cancer? At least in children? I'm finding that hard to believe

Too each his own. If it works for him, great. I'm not one to take much on faith alone. My motto: God helps those who help themselves, (which is not a verse found in the bible).

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« Reply #552 on: April 10, 2020, 12:35:25 PM »
Too each his own. If it works for him, great. I'm not one to take much on faith alone. My motto: God helps those who help themselves, (which is not a verse found in the bible).


I'm just here to keep us on a somewhat sane level  :)  Its 2020 and its still awkward to call someones religious claims into question. But someones gotta do it

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« Reply #553 on: April 10, 2020, 12:46:56 PM »
Amen

I agree with everything posted, except for that last part: "Listen to your heart"

"The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked" Jeremiah 17:9

It sounded like a nice finisher to the post. You are correct however.


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« Reply #554 on: April 10, 2020, 12:48:53 PM »
And yet you couldn't take the time to pray an end to cancer? At least in children? I'm finding that hard to believe

Stop trying to hijack the thread dude. If you care so much you could have shot me a PM. You dont look cool "flaming" me but by all means just dont clutter this thread please.

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« Reply #555 on: April 10, 2020, 12:55:09 PM »
Stop trying to hijack the thread dude. If you care so much you could have shot me a PM. You dont look cool "flaming" me but by all means just dont clutter this thread please.

Right.. please, continue the important task of pushing your religion on him.

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« Reply #556 on: April 10, 2020, 01:00:04 PM »
Dude I was a total basketcase .............i`m much calmer and optomistic now...............no clue as to how I`m feeling this way,but I`ll take it!!

That's nice to hear.  You are a good dude and I wish you the best.

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« Reply #557 on: April 10, 2020, 01:33:29 PM »
Right.. please, continue the important task of pushing your religion on him.

How comforting of you.  Your bitter arguments is exactly what Wes needs right now.

BTW, how was Italy?

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« Reply #558 on: April 10, 2020, 03:11:32 PM »
How comforting of you.  Your bitter arguments is exactly what Wes needs right now.

BTW, how was Italy?

If you think Wes needs to hear some vague promise in a belief system that suffers from a huge lack of empirical evidence and is entirely anecdotal rather than focus on science and medicine we can just agree to disagree. And my "argument" was no more bitter than Mikes was pathetic

 :)  next year, Italy will still be there

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« Reply #559 on: April 11, 2020, 06:19:58 AM »
If you think Wes needs to hear some vague promise in a belief system that suffers from a huge lack of empirical evidence and is entirely anecdotal rather than focus on science and medicine we can just agree to disagree.

 :)  next year, Italy will still be there

Wes can decide on his own what he needs or doesn't need.  Most Getbiggers here are just trying to be comforting and encouraging to Wes.  You are just being your usual A-hole arguing religion in an attempt to justify your own lack of faith and make yourself feel better.  There is a time and a place, and this ain't it.

Italy might still be there next year, but you won't be going if your woman gets a new little dog.   :D

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« Reply #560 on: April 11, 2020, 06:23:37 AM »
Dude I was a total basketcase .............i`m much calmer and optomistic now...............no clue as to how I`m feeling this way,but I`ll take it!!

It probably helps having most of the world thinking about their own mortality, right now - you're certainly less "alone" per se.

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« Reply #561 on: April 11, 2020, 06:44:17 AM »
Right.. please, continue the important task of pushing your religion on him.

X2 ^

Religion is nonsense to anyone that evaluates it like anything else with common sense logic in this world. Just a made up way to deal with the great meaningless of it all and prior to that a way of controlling people, it's the narcissistic nature of us as humans to need to believe there is more and meaning.

But if it gives someone comfort and peace why not..

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« Reply #562 on: April 11, 2020, 08:08:05 AM »
X2 ^

Religion is nonsense to anyone that evaluates it like anything else with common sense logic in this world. Just a made up way to deal with the great meaningless of it all and prior to that a way of controlling people, it's the narcissistic nature of us as humans to need to believe there is more and meaning.

But if it gives someone comfort and peace why not..

I suppose likewise you don't believe atheists and "agnostics" should rely on antidepressants and anxiety meds either.  

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Re: Sorry to say,but I do have lung cancer !
« Reply #563 on: April 11, 2020, 10:43:10 AM »
Right.. please, continue the important task of pushing your religion on him.
What's the difference between pushing a religious stance and pushing and anti-religious stance?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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« Reply #564 on: April 11, 2020, 12:42:58 PM »
What's the difference between pushing a religious stance and pushing and anti-religious stance?

Not much. In this case before I responded I checked post history looking for a time when Wes indicated he wanted to hear peoples personal religious beliefs. I didn't find one. So Mikes post was  just him taking an opportunity to push his religion on someone who may be vulnerable. Had Wes indicated at anytime he was looking for perspectives on spiritual healing/beliefs I would have scrolled past. To make my post equal to Mikes, I would have needed to out of the blue, start talking about how silly religion is in 2020 and that Wes would be better off sticking to science and what the Oncologists say. That didn't happen.   Now I'm more than willing to let this drop. We can continue it in another thread if you feel you still have points to make.

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« Reply #565 on: April 11, 2020, 05:23:27 PM »
What's the difference between pushing a religious stance and pushing and anti-religious stance?

The exact same reasoning I experienced when I was debating an "education professional" about why they can teach their version of history and rewriting history to portray White men as evil and every minority group and women as the real heroes that created and made this country great. He said, with a straight face and all due sincerity, "One is educational truth and the other is just indoctrination."

Your side is always the pristine truth. The other side is just brain-washing indoctrination.


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« Reply #566 on: April 11, 2020, 05:25:17 PM »
Not much. In this case before I responded I checked post history looking for a time when Wes indicated he wanted to hear peoples personal religious beliefs. I didn't find one. So Mikes post was  just him taking an opportunity to push his religion on someone who may be vulnerable. Had Wes indicated at anytime he was looking for perspectives on spiritual healing/beliefs I would have scrolled past. To make my post equal to Mikes, I would have needed to out of the blue, start talking about how silly religion is in 2020 and that Wes would be better off sticking to science and what the Oncologists say. That didn't happen.   Now I'm more than willing to let this drop. We can continue it in another thread if you feel you still have points to make.

I checked post history looking for a time when Wes indicated he wanted to hear people's personal SECULAR beliefs. I didn't find one.

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« Reply #567 on: April 11, 2020, 05:49:37 PM »
What's the difference between pushing a religious stance and pushing and anti-religious stance?

The difference is in the context of the moment.  With mortality in question, most often, an anti-religious person will not bring up the subject, unsolicited.  Conversely, the religious see this moment as "their moment" to bring up their brand.

The thing to keep in mind in these situations is that the religious person means well.



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« Reply #568 on: April 11, 2020, 06:06:18 PM »
The difference is in the context of the moment.  With mortality in question, most often, an anti-religious person will not bring up the subject, unsolicited.  Conversely, the religious see this moment as "their moment" to bring up their brand.

The thing to keep in mind in these situations is that the religious person means well.




That's because atheist don't believe in an afterlife or a grand plan God has. So why would they comment about things they don't care about as it is a moot point? With religion, the afterlife is one of the salient features of their beliefs. That no matter how unfair, unjust, and cruel life is, that there is the ultimate cosmic justice in the afterlife. This can bring solace and meaning not only to death but to life itself.

Sure Wes didn't ask for any religious support or advice. He hasn't asked for any support and advice. People give it because they care. If Wes doesn't appreciate it you can be sure he will speak his mind. I'm surprised that he hasn't told Marty to just shut up already with all this kale, cabbage, grass-eating bullshit. That's the guy that should be attacked as I, and a precious few have done. And to make matters worse, not only is he giving just nonsense advice, he's trying to portray Wes as an idiot for not following his advice that only turned Marty, himself, into a big, fat, autistic, blob.

But he's given a pass but not people of faith.

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« Reply #569 on: April 11, 2020, 06:42:53 PM »
I'm surprised that he hasn't told Marty to just shut up already with all this kale, cabbage, grass-eating bullshit. That's the guy that should be attacked as I, and a precious few have done. And to make matters worse, not only is he giving just nonsense advice, he's trying to portray Wes as an idiot for not following his advice that only turned Marty, himself, into a big, fat, autistic, blob.

But he's given a pass but not people of faith.

It's the other way around, actually.

Marty cashed in his "take seriously" card a long time ago.

He can say whatever the fuck he likes here, now - but he can't be taken seriously.

Personally, I'd rather be the people of faith - who actually have an opinion that is recognised.


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« Reply #570 on: April 11, 2020, 07:05:14 PM »
I suppose likewise you don't believe atheists and "agnostics" should rely on antidepressants and anxiety meds either.  

No people can take any medication they want.

 I also don't care whether anyone chooses to believe in God or in whatever, each person has the right to believe in what ever they want, as long as they're not hurting anyone else. The prior post is purely my views.

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« Reply #571 on: April 11, 2020, 07:16:53 PM »
It's the other way around, actually.

Marty cashed in his "take seriously" card a long time ago.

He can say whatever the fuck he likes here, now - but he can't be taken seriously.


Personally, I'd rather be the people of faith - who actually have an opinion that is recognised.



Hmm, very good point and you just change my entire perspective on Marty. I see him in an entirely different light and will no longer be perturbed by his posts. Now I want to just give him a noogie and an ice cream cone.


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« Reply #572 on: April 11, 2020, 07:59:34 PM »
I checked post history looking for a time when Wes indicated he wanted to hear people's personal SECULAR beliefs. I didn't find one.

Your search was irrelevant given the recent posts, mine wasn't. Please tell me you see the difference

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« Reply #573 on: April 11, 2020, 10:54:19 PM »
Your search was irrelevant given the recent posts, mine wasn't. Please tell me you see the difference

Not too bright, are you? No wonder you never advance beyond a beat cop after decades on the job.


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« Reply #574 on: April 12, 2020, 08:56:23 AM »
Not too bright, are you? No wonder you never advance beyond a beat cop after decades on the job.



the irony... :)