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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2019, 11:05:35 AM »
What about gh?

I don't deal much with GH. Profit margin and risk of bunk shit isn't worth it. I usually just refer customers to gh suppliers.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2019, 04:40:48 AM »
A day after the China ban, the U.S. reintroduced an amended version of the SARMS Control Act of 2018 to classify SARMS as a Schedule III controlled substance.
But, this act is a long way from being passed:

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Introduced on Nov 19, 2019
This bill is in the first stage of the legislative process. It was introduced into Congress on November 19, 2019. It will typically be considered by committee next before it is possibly sent on to the House or Senate as a whole.

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A bill must be passed by both the House and Senate in identical form and then be signed by the President to become law.

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Prognosis: 4% chance of being enacted according to Skopos Labs


Essentially, the Bill was (re)introduced in November. Even "if" it passes the Committee, it will still need to pass the House... then the Senate... then the President.


Reference: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/s2895


With the pending scarcity of raws available, a market price increase wouldn't surprise me the least bit, but I think the ban of above-board SARM sales is a good ways off.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2019, 04:51:59 AM »
How about you concentrate on your career and family? Forget about drugs. If you need the praise for being manly because of your drug use you have bigger problems than your source drying up. The physique is temporary unless you want to cycle high dose and low dose for decades until you have a stroke, heart attack or an enlarged prostate. Lung cancer if you use trent.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2019, 03:58:49 PM »
How about you concentrate on your career and family? Forget about drugs. If you need the praise for being manly because of your drug use you have bigger problems than your source drying up. The physique is temporary unless you want to cycle high dose and low dose for decades until you have a stroke, heart attack or an enlarged prostate. Lung cancer if you use trent.

Since when does tren cause lung cancer?

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2019, 04:07:30 PM »
WHO CARES!! Test is the BEST!

For me also.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2019, 06:23:22 PM »
Since when does tren cause lung cancer?
Second trimester usually.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2019, 03:51:18 AM »
It'll be fine.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2019, 09:52:50 PM »
For me also.

If you new what a SARM does you would understand that there is no comparison to testosterone.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2019, 10:25:36 PM »
If you new what a SARM does you would understand that there is no comparison to testosterone.

To be honest, I don't know shit about SARMS. How are they different from Testosterone and all other Testosterone based compounds? I know that's a lot to ask so if you want to just refer me to some links where I could research on my own that would be OK.

 Which would you recommend for just basic size and strength compound? How do the side effects compare with oral anabolics. Maybe a list of the few basic most popular ones that I can look up and research as to how to properly use and cycle them. Also, what is your company that sells these? They're still legal in the U.S. PM if that works better for you.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2019, 10:44:42 PM »
To be honest, I don't know shit about SARMS. How are they different from Testosterone and all other Testosterone based compounds? I know that's a lot to ask so if you want to just refer me to some links where I could research on my own that would be OK.

 Which would you recommend for just basic size and strength compound? How do the side effects compare with oral anabolics. Maybe a list of the few basic most popular ones that I can look up and research as to how to properly use and cycle them. Also, what is your company that sells these? They're still legal in the U.S. PM if that works better for you.

The main SARMS for size, the mildest at top, strongest at bottom.

Ostarine (MK-2866)
LGD-4033
Testolone (RAD-140)

HGH secretagogue:

MK-677 (Nutrobal)

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A SARM is a 'Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator' so they are developed to focus only on the intended tissues and not the whole body. Basically, they are intended as steroids without most of the negative side-effects.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2019, 10:58:34 PM »
To be honest, I don't know shit about SARMS. How are they different from Testosterone and all other Testosterone based compounds? I know that's a lot to ask so if you want to just refer me to some links where I could research on my own that would be OK.

 Which would you recommend for just basic size and strength compound? How do the side effects compare with oral anabolics. Maybe a list of the few basic most popular ones that I can look up and research as to how to properly use and cycle them. Also, what is your company that sells these? They're still legal in the U.S. PM if that works better for you.

SARMS Matrix E-Book
http://www.ironmagazine.com//ebooks/SARMS-Matrix-Ebook.pdf
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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2019, 11:02:42 PM »
The main SARMS for size, the mildest at top, strongest at bottom.

Ostarine (MK-2866)
LGD-4033
Testolone (RAD-140)

HGH secretagogue:

MK-677 (Nutrobal)

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A SARM is a 'Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator' so they are developed to focus only on the intended tissues and not the whole body. Basically, they are intended as steroids without most of the negative side-effects.

Name of medical clinic where was tested, thanks !.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2019, 11:03:36 PM »
Name of medical clinic where was tested, thanks !.

Several SARMs such as Ostarine are in clinical testing with big pharma companies.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2019, 11:18:27 PM »
Several SARMs such as Ostarine are in clinical testing with big pharma companies.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2019, 11:20:49 PM »
GTX Pharma holds the patent on Ostarine and it is in phase 2 clinical testing.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2019, 11:22:34 PM »
GTX Pharma holds the patent on Ostarine and it is in phase 2 clinical testing.


Google : sarms clinical testing

Not too many positive comments !!!.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2019, 11:45:50 PM »
The main SARMS for size, the mildest at top, strongest at bottom.

Ostarine (MK-2866)
LGD-4033
Testolone (RAD-140)

HGH secretagogue:

MK-677 (Nutrobal)

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A SARM is a 'Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator' so they are developed to focus only on the intended tissues and not the whole body. Basically, they are intended as steroids without most of the negative side-effects.

So it doesn't stress the liver and kidneys like oral steroids do?

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2019, 11:46:50 PM »
SARMS Matrix E-Book
http://www.ironmagazine.com//ebooks/SARMS-Matrix-Ebook.pdf
(this is not mine, nor am I promoting anything, just a free ebook)

Thanks! I'll check it out.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2019, 05:02:27 AM »
Name of medical clinic where was tested, thanks !.

Ostarine, LGD and MK-677 have been tested in human clinical trials for decades. RAD-140 has not.

Here is one for MK-677:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18981485

Here's one dealing with several SARMS:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6039107/

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2019, 05:10:29 AM »
So it doesn't stress the liver and kidneys like oral steroids do?

They're not supposed to, they're non-methylated.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2019, 07:46:39 AM »
Ostarine, LGD and MK-677 have been tested in human clinical trials for decades. RAD-140 has not.

Here is one for MK-677:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18981485

Here's one dealing with several SARMS:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6039107/

Interesting. MK-677 increased hgh and igf levels but there was no difference compared to the placebo group in abdominal fat but there was an increase in limb fat with the MK-677 group. Also fasting blood sugar levels and insulin resistance went up with the use of MK-677. And it was interesting that the increase in fat-free mass did not result in any changes in strength and functional ability.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2019, 11:40:13 AM »
Interesting. MK-677 increased hgh and igf levels but there was no difference compared to the placebo group in abdominal fat but there was an increase in limb fat with the MK-677 group. Also fasting blood sugar levels and insulin resistance went up with the use of MK-677. And it was interesting that the increase in fat-free mass did not result in any changes in strength and functional ability.

Though they were elderly patients and not lifting weights or probably not even doing much exercise.

Note also that their bone mineral density increased. And their 'fat free mass significantly increased' by an average 2.7 kg's and daily usage 'significantly increased growth hormone and insulin-like growth factor I levels to those of healthy young adults without serious adverse effects.'

It does not increase strength, but the main advantage for training is the much quicker recovery from exercise and injuries, increased energy, and also deeper sleep. It also gives a fuller look to muscles.




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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2019, 12:14:04 PM »
MK-677 beats even GH for quick size plus the appetite
increase is great for me.

Did GH and MK separately as well as together earlier in the year and MK is more useful to me.

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2019, 12:18:51 PM »
If you're questioning the effectiveness of SARMS or MK-677 I suggest you give them a try and find out for yourself.
There is a reason the government is trying to make SARMs a controlled substance, cause they work! :)

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Re: I’M GOING TO JAIL, SARMS BAN 2020
« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2019, 01:09:46 PM »
If you're questioning the effectiveness of SARMS or MK-677 I suggest you give them a try and find out for yourself.
There is a reason the government is trying to make SARMs a controlled substance, cause they work! :)


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