Shawn Ray Calls Out Chad Nicholls | UPDATE: CHAD NICHOLLS FULL RESPONSE!!!

[Rambone]

Mate I am 50 mins in and am yet to hear him explain his body count!  

He’s probably in denial like John “Inverted Nips” Romano in “Bigger Stronger Faster”. “Show me the bodies.”

[JuicedKangaroo]

This is shaping up to be pretty interesting: Around the 50 min mark Chad starts discussing different anabolics and peptides, notes that he abhors synthol and has never encouraged SEO and always talks about AIs and the importance of not crashing E2 (unfortunately, I have heard of gurus trying to suppress E2  )

Around 1:13:00 he starts addressing the "cause of death" of pros.

[Mr.1derful]

How many times does Teh Chad have to say, "literally"? 

[Royalty]

Why would Kevin even fight him? Nothing wrong with him backing down since he didn’t even know what was happening, Chad admitted he was in the wrong and apologized to Kevin and acknowledged that Kevin didn’t even know what was going on when he approached him

It’s interesting that Flex and Dillett both told Nicholls that Levrone was taking about him at the Athletes meeting

And that Shawn himself said that Levrone wanted to “tear him a new one”.

[Royalty]

Not true, I was around in the late 90’s in SoCal, wheeler had beef here and there with Shawn but he didn’t dislike him, Chris looked up to Shawn, there was never any “real” hostility between them, shit talking here and there but never escalated to the point where there was real hate and that they were going to kill each other

Dorian I am not sure, he was never around, mainly in the east coast if he was in the state’s

Wheeler, with regularity, referee to Shawn as Shawanda or Shawnda


And Dorian couldn’t stand Ray after Ray said that Dorian was only good for guest posings (after Yates tore the bicep)

[joswift]

It’s interesting that Flex and Dillett both told Nicholls that Levrone was taking about him at the Athletes meeting

And that Shawn himself said that Levrone wanted to “tear him a new one”.

Flex always came across as all mouth, what the fuck was all the Ninja shit about...

Of course hes going to report that Leverone backed down.. heres Flex in action

[JuicedKangaroo]

Chad says that the "Death Cycle" was a shopping list written for Dallas (to be shared/split with another guy) by the coach AFTER Chad. Noted that the inclusion of EPO is a dead give-away... 

[Royalty]

Flex always came across as all mouth, what the fuck was all the Ninja shit about...

Of course hes going to report that Leverone backed down.. heres Flex in action

In all honesty, they all are probably all mouth. All of them.

[Soul Crusher]

I'm 1/2 way in to this and its ok - but Patrick is going way too easy on this guy. 

[Skeletor]

You'll be (un)surprised to hear Chad say that the hierarchy of importance is nutrition > training > genetics > drugs  

”Drugs are like, literally, like the finishing touch.”

[Methyl m1ke]

You'll be (un)surprised to hear Chad say that the hierarchy of importance is nutrition > training > genetics > drugs  

The hierarchy is accurate.

Does Chad ever divulge his actual diet secrets? Is it some macro ratio, overall cals, timing, food sources??? If the secret is diet, what is this diet?

[Soul Crusher]

The hierarchy is accurate.

Does Chad ever divulge his actual diet secrets? Is it some macro ratio, overall cals, timing, food sources??? If the secret is diet, what is this diet?

Im 3/4 in and nothing of the sort.   Probably could cut off 20% of the time if they edited out the words literally and like

[joswift]

Im 3/4 in and nothing of the sort.   Probably could cut off 20% of the time if they edited out the words literally and like

I notice when people often use the word "literally" its very rarely used in the correct context

"She could be literally anywhere"

Could she be in outer space?

[Matt]

The hierarchy is accurate.

Does Chad ever divulge his actual diet secrets? Is it some macro ratio, overall cals, timing, food sources??? If the secret is diet, what is this diet?

That's funny that you mentioned the word divulge.  It immediately reminded me of an interview with Don Youngblood I read close to 18 years ago to the day, referring to Chad Nichols, and whether or not he divulges his diet secrets:

Ron Avidan: Any interesting diets when you train?
Don Youngblood: Chad Nichols does my diet, it gets a little interesting, but I do not divulge his diet information.

And if that was true in 2002, it's safe to say at this point, that Don and some of Chad's other athletes bodybuilders will never tell their tale.  

https://www.getbig.com/iview/youngblood020111.htm

[joswift]

That's funny that you mentioned the word divulge.  It immediately reminded me of an interview with Don Youngblood I read close to 18 years ago to the day, referring to Chad Nichols, and whether or not he divulges his diet secrets:

And if that was true in 2002, it's safe to say at this point, that Don and some of Chad's other athletes bodybuilders will never tell their tale.  

https://www.getbig.com/iview/youngblood020111.htm

esfitness style recall....

[OneMoreRep]

600lbs of stupidity, with no signs of actual cerebral parenchyma.

"1"

[Matt]

esfitness style recall....

Haha, thanks!

Meanwhile, at my parents house, I can't remember which kitchen cupboard contains the bowls and plates, and which contains the cups.

Now...that tells me something about my memory which fascinates me - how the FUCK do I remember that Don Youngblood used the word "divulge" with respect to Chad Nicholls' diet protocol in an interview that I read nearly two decades ago, yet keep forgetting which cupboard has plates/bowls versus cups at my parents' house when I've been here over a dozen times.  It is a new home, but I've been here many times since November.

I think some people just have a certain type of memory.  Which actually brings me to a point I made about Shawn vs. Chad in this thread:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=661547.0

^ Shawn reminds me of myself, in terms of memory...so I seem to doubt that Chad is recalling things correctly versus Shawn there.

I'm only 29 minutes in though, so I'll see how the rest of it goes:

[joswift]

talking of memory matt

[Methyl m1ke]

That's funny that you mentioned the word divulge.  It immediately reminded me of an interview with Don Youngblood I read close to 18 years ago to the day, referring to Chad Nichols, and whether or not he divulges his diet secrets:

And if that was true in 2002, it's safe to say at this point, that Don and some of Chad's other athletes bodybuilders will never tell their tale.  

https://www.getbig.com/iview/youngblood020111.htm

I figured that would be the case...

[Soul Crusher]

I still think this video was lacking in so many ways. 

[Bevo]

Chad’s favorite number is “300” for whatever reason

[rocket]

I notice when people often use the word "literally" its very rarely used in the correct context

"She could be literally anywhere"

Could she be in outer space?

More often than not, you can subtract the word and the statement remains the same.

It's essentially been repurporsed as a word to imply emphasis - ala, using "fucking" as a preface to emphasise.

[Soul Crusher]

Chad’s favorite number is “300” for whatever reason

And favorite word “literally”

[rocket]

You'll be (un)surprised to hear Chad say that the hierarchy of importance is nutrition > training > genetics > drugs  

Disappointing.

I thought his clips were strong - he was forthright.

But he loses me saying that.

For most people, all 4 of those things are a constant requirement.  Most can't succeed in professional bodybuilding without all of them.

To me, a balanced opinion is that drugs are equally as important as the rest.  Genetics require no effort to maintain, the other 3 can be experimented and modified, but given their omnipresence, you can't say they are more important.

For some genetic freaks (dillet), training might be half optional but ignoring the outliers, I see no problem in a "guru" or person admitting that all 4 are of equal importance.

I remember Tom Prince and his "drugs are just the finishing touch" 

Right, okay Tom, drive a car with 3 of your 4 wheels.  That's your finishing touch.

[Rambone]

Disappointing.

I thought his clips were strong - he was forthright.

But he loses me saying that.

For most people, all 4 of those things are a constant requirement.  Most can't succeed in professional bodybuilding without all of them.

To me, a balanced opinion is that drugs are equally as important as the rest.  Genetics require no effort to maintain, the other 3 can be experimented and modified, but given their omnipresence, you can't say they are more important.

For some genetic freaks (dillet), training might be half optional but ignoring the outliers, I see no problem in a "guru" or person admitting that all 4 are of equal importance.

I remember Tom Prince and his "drugs are just the finishing touch" 

Right, okay Tom, drive a car with 3 of your 4 wheels.  That's your finishing touch.

Tom’s “finishing touch” involved paper bags and twinky Asian fuck boys