Covid 19 - We are all screwed - discuss

[JustPlaneJane]

Apparently, the Chinese who came over from Wuhan did a lot of hanging out in Da ‘Hood, either that or the virus is racist😉



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/01/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-cases-map.html


During the first month of the outbreak in the city — the epicenter of America’s coronavirus crisis — many of the neighborhoods with the most confirmed virus cases were in areas with the lowest median incomes, the data shows. The biggest hot spots included communities in the South Bronx and western Queens

In addition to “age”, compare obesity, diabetes, and high BMI stats against C-19 cases and deaths.

It’s easier for the MSM to focus on age to create hysteria to steer the public perception. The misinformation that is purposely being reported should be criminal.

[Thin Lizzy]

In addition to “age”, compare obesity, diabetes, and high BMI stats against C-19 cases and deaths.

It’s easier for the MSM to focus on age to create hysteria to steer the public perception. The misinformation that is purposely being reported should be criminal.

The article mentions that the number of people who reported  to the hospital because of flu has tripled since last year but that’s obviously because of the last month of being pummeled by the media and the government. What the article doesn’t mention is the total number of deaths in NYC this year compared to last year. I’d bet it’s pretty close.

[chaos]

The misinformation that is purposely being reported should be criminal.

This from day one. The media (all platforms) should be held accountable for the lies they spread.

[JustPlaneJane]

The article mentions that the number of people who reported  to the hospital because of flu has tripled since last year but that’s obviously because of the last month of being pummeled by the media and the government. What the article doesn’t mention is the total number of deaths in NYC this year compared to last year. I’d bet it’s pretty close.

Over the course of 31 days (from March 1 to March 31), the coronavirus killed more than 1,500 people in the tri-state, the vast majority of which were in New York. Of the 1,342 people who died in the state, 914 were in New York City.

New York had 4,749 deaths as a result of influenza and pneumonia in 2018, according to the Centers for Disease Control (statistics for 2019 were not available). The New York City Department of Health said that roughly 2,000 of those deaths happen within the five boroughs every year.

[JustPlaneJane]

This from day one. The media (all platforms) should be held accountable for the lies they spread.

Politicians from California are some of the worst offenders.

[Thin Lizzy]

Over the course of 31 days (from March 1 to March 31), the coronavirus killed more than 1,500 people in the tri-state, the vast majority of which were in New York. Of the 1,342 people who died in the state, 914 were in New York City.

New York had 4,749 deaths as a result of influenza and pneumonia in 2018, according to the Centers for Disease Control (statistics for 2019 were not available). The New York City Department of Health said that roughly 2,000 of those deaths happen within the five boroughs every year.

Here’s the thing. Corona could be anything or nothing at all. That’s what makes the numbers so easy to fudge.  Anyone with a positive test reading can be declared having died from corona even if they had several other underlying illnesses. That’s the case in both Italy and NYC. I believe total deaths year over year would be the number that would tell the story the best.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/have-i-already-had-coronavirus-covid-19-how-would-i-know

Dr William Hillmann: At this point, we don’t have a test to tell that. We are developing antibody tests to check for a prior infection, but those aren’t ready for clinical use yet. The only definitive way to know that you’ve had it is to get tested while you have it and to have that test be positive.
Could I have had it and been asymptomatic?

Hillmann: Coronavirus is actually quite a significant spectrum of symptoms, from people who are entirely asymptomatic and would have no idea that they have it to people with very mild, cold-like symptoms – runny nose, congestion, sore throat – to people with more flu-like symptoms – high fevers, muscle aches, shortness of breath and cough. All the way up to people with severe illness, who we’re seeing in the hospital with respiratory failure, requiring ICU care.

[Gregzs]

N.J. will get 70K masks to help fight coronavirus after feds bust ‘hoarding situation’


New Jersey will soon get more N95 masks and other much-needed personal protective equipment to help fight the coronavirus outbreak after a federal bust of a “significant PPE hoarding situation” in Brooklyn, Gov. Phil Murphy said Saturday.

Federal authorities seized hundreds of thousands of personal protective equipment items that are desperately needed by healthcare workers and first responders testing or treating people for the virus

Murphy said the state will receive more than 70,000 N95 masks and 5,000 gloves, among other PPE, from the site. The governor thanked U.S. Attorney for New Jersey Craig Carpenito and Newark FBI Special Agent in Charge Greg Ehrie for their efforts in securing the equipment.

The governor made the announcement at his daily coronavirus press briefing after noting that COVID-19 has now killed 846 people in New Jersey, which is more than the Sept. 11, 2011 terrorist attack, which killed 704.

New Jersey now has at least 34,124 cases of the illness, officials said Saturday. The state of 9 million people has the second-most cases among U.S. states, after New York.

Murphy said he spoke with Vice President Mike Pence on Friday night and stressed that the state needs more supplies from the federal government — including 1,650 more ventilators.

In an effort to increase social distancing and curb the spread of the virus, Murphy has ordered residents to stay home, banned social gatherings, and mandated that non-essential businesses in the state close until further notice.

State Health Commissioner Judith Persichilli said hospitals in the northern half of New Jersey are already seeing a surge in patients with the virus, with some having to divert patients to other facilities.

Murphy has said he expects the fallout from the virus to last “deep into May.”

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/04/nj-will-get-70k-masks-to-help-fight-coronavirus-after-feds-bust-hoarding-situation.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&fbclid=IwAR2Wx24d6Gia86AiDTZMTNf8nlk6TPSwVAaC0rU6z4240f9gyWb-AYFIrPo

[TheGrinch]

I think the BIGGEST thing everyone is missing is that the death rate from COVID is closer to .00005 Percent as literally NOBODY is getting tested.

There must be millions upon millions of cases of COVID going untested, they recover and nobody is the wiser.

If you have symptoms but are in the 80% that never go to the hospital you will most likely never get tested.

Most of the people getting tested are those admitted to hospitals.

Call your local doctor (who is most likely closed) and try to get a test.. go ahead.. I'll wait.

You can't.

[Humble Narcissist]

I think the BIGGEST thing everyone is missing is that the death rate from COVID is closer to .00005 Percent as literally NOBODY is getting tested.

There must be millions upon millions of cases of COVID going untested, they recover and nobody is the wiser.

If you have symptoms but are in the 80% that never go to the hospital you will most likely never get tested.

Most of the people getting tested are those admitted to hospitals.

Call your local doctor (who is most likely closed) and try to get a test.. go ahead.. I'll wait.

You can't.

Correct.

[el numero uno]

I think the BIGGEST thing everyone is missing is that the death rate from COVID is closer to .00005 Percent as literally NOBODY is getting tested.

There must be millions upon millions of cases of COVID going untested, they recover and nobody is the wiser.

If you have symptoms but are in the 80% that never go to the hospital you will most likely never get tested.

Most of the people getting tested are those admitted to hospitals.

Call your local doctor (who is most likely closed) and try to get a test.. go ahead.. I'll wait.

You can't.

Yes, current statistics are biased.

Covid-19 mortality rate is being calculated based on the number of confirmed cases, but as you mentioned, people with mild or no symptons at all just don't get tested.

From what I've read, there's not enough data to infer the real number of cases, but some experts think it can be around 10 times the number of confirmed cases. That would put the mortality rate around 1 in 1000, not 1 in 2 millions as you suggested.

The problem is that a small percentage of a really big number is still a big number.

Covid-19 is already wreaking havoc in countries with weak healthcare systems, even with lock downs being implemented.

There's a shortage of masks, PPE's, Covid-19 tests, ventilators, etc. Every single country wants these items and you cannot properly manage the disease without them.

[Thin Lizzy]

Yes, current statistics are biased.

Covid-19 mortality rate is being calculated based on the number of confirmed cases, but as you mentioned, people with mild or no symptons at all just don't get tested.

From what I've read, there's not enough data to infer the real number of cases, but some experts think it can be around 10 times the number of confirmed cases. That would put the mortality rate around 1 in 1000, not 1 in 2 millions as you suggested.

The problem is that a small percentage of a really big number is still a big number.

Covid-19 is already wreaking havoc in countries with weak healthcare systems, even with lock downs being implemented.

There's a shortage of masks, PPE's, Covid-19 tests, ventilators, etc. Every single country wants these items and you cannot properly manage the disease without them.

What would be the percentage if you removed people with pre-existing conditions?

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/new-york-coronavirus-cases-updates.html

The first minor in NYC with a case of the coronavirus has died

The city reported the death of its first patient under the age of 18 on Monday. Like the vast majority of patients who have passed away, the city reported that the minor had an underlying condition. Of the 790 deaths in the city, 777 patients had underlying conditions, which, according to the city’s definition, include diabetes, lung disease, cancer, immunodeficiency, heart disease, hypertension, kidney disease, and asthma.

[tommywishbone]

I am spreading the rumor that oxandralone aka Anavar is the cure for the Clovid-19 virus. That way the government will give everyone free Anavar. I will buy all the Anavar at a greatly reduced price and build some serious muscle. That's my plan.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

I am spreading the rumor that oxandralone aka Anavar is the cure for the Clovid-19 virus. That way the government will give everyone free Anavar. I will buy all the Anavar at a greatly reduced price and build some serious muscle. That's my plan.

Blue Label Johnnie Walker is the best medicine for flu ..........

[pellius]

Blue Label Johnnie Walker is the best medicine for flu ..........

I asked my trt doctor last year about what he thought about me taking anavar as I'm getting older and having a much harder time maintaining strength and muscle. He told me (again this was sometime last year so things may have changed) that there has been a halt to any importation of anavar as it all comes from China and they have discovered impurities in them.

What a surprise. I hope this whole coronavirus thing really opens our eyes to our dependency on China. They are not our friend and can't be trusted. Obviously we can't do it overnight but hopefully, people will be more aware of stuff coming out of China and avoid it as much as possible.

[oldgolds]

I was out of toilet paper so I got to Walmart at 6:00 A.M. and when the doors opened I walked  to the paper isle and started coughing and hacking.....then leisurely selected my Charmin  ultra-strong.

[Flexacon]

What would be the percentage if you removed people with pre-existing conditions?

Being alive is a pre existing condition to being dead.

[Thin Lizzy]

Being alive is a pre existing condition to being dead.

No, I’m talking about this type:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/new-york-coronavirus-cases-updates.html

The first minor in NYC with a case of the coronavirus has died

The city reported the death of its first patient under the age of 18 on Monday. Like the vast majority of patients who have passed away, the city reported that the minor had an underlying condition. Of the 790 deaths in the city, 777 patients had underlying conditions, which, according to the city’s definition, include diabetes, lung disease, cancer, immunodeficiency, heart disease, hypertension, kidney disease, and asthma.

[Flexacon]

No, I’m talking about this type:

People can live 50 plus years with some of those conditions.

You need to think of covid19 as an accelerant, not as the cause of the death.

If it was allowed to spread through a population without any measures in place then we can assume bodies will pile up. People would soon be too scared to turn up for work so the economy would be wrecked anyway. Hospitals and morgues would be closed, vital services gone, mass graves, basically it would be mayhem.

Staggering the virus in waves and hoping to get lucky with a vaccine and/or treatment is the safest bet. At the very least this first wave with the lockdown buys time. We might find that the virus burns out quicker than current data suggests so that it might be defeated in 2 or 3 waves. Doing nothing would be like sitting in an apartment whilst next door was on fire and hoping for the best.

[TheGrinch]

Yes, current statistics are biased.

Covid-19 mortality rate is being calculated based on the number of confirmed cases, but as you mentioned, people with mild or no symptons at all just don't get tested.

From what I've read, there's not enough data to infer the real number of cases, but some experts think it can be around 10 times the number of confirmed cases. That would put the mortality rate around 1 in 1000, not 1 in 2 millions as you suggested.

The problem is that a small percentage of a really big number is still a big number.

Covid-19 is already wreaking havoc in countries with weak healthcare systems, even with lock downs being implemented.

There's a shortage of masks, PPE's, Covid-19 tests, ventilators, etc. Every single country wants these items and you cannot properly manage the disease without them.

So we are closing down the entire world over 1 in 1000 chance of dying if you are over 70 and have a preexisting condition?

LOL


The chances of dying by being shot if you are black and living in Chicago is 1 in 1000 but I don't see anyone closing the entire city down over it.


Do you drive a car? well... did you know you have a 2 out of 3 chance of being involved in a drunk driving accident in your lifetime? BAN CARS!!

[Thin Lizzy]

So we are closing down the entire world over 1 in 1000 chance of dying if you are over 70 and have a preexisting condition?

LOL

It gets more and more absurd by the day. The people who are still buying into this stuff just can’t admit that they got worked and have to come up with ever more ridiculous rationalizations and excuses.

[illuminati]

People can live 50 plus years with some of those conditions.

You need to think of covid19 as an accelerant, not as the cause of the death.

If it was allowed to spread through a population without any measures in place then we can assume bodies will pile up. People would soon be too scared to turn up for work so the economy would be wrecked anyway. Hospitals and morgues would be closed, vital services gone, mass graves, basically it would be mayhem.

Staggering the virus in waves and hoping to get lucky with a vaccine and/or treatment is the safest bet. At the very least this first wave with the lockdown buys time. We might find that the virus burns out quicker than current data suggests so that it might be defeated in 2 or 3 waves. Doing nothing would be like sitting in an apartment whilst next door was on fire and hoping for the best.

There is a Treatment- Yet it’s not being Headlined by MSM
Ramp up Production of the Medications & Get it Out there Asap

Open everything back up -
While working on an effective Vaccine

[el numero uno]

What would be the percentage if you removed people with pre-existing conditions?

Why would you remove people with pre-existing conditions from the statistics?

Are you trying to imply Covid-19 it's not a big deal because most healthy, young people don't die from it?

It's the sheer number of people with and without pre-existing conditions what saturates the healthcare system.

[Thin Lizzy]

Why would you remove people with pre-existing conditions from the statistics?

Are you trying to imply Covid-19 it's not a big deal because most healthy, young people don't die from it?

It's the sheer number of people with and without pre-existing conditions what saturates the healthcare system.

I’m saying it’s idiotic to view the percentages as a whole without digging a little deeper and seeing the majority of the cases are in a very small group.

Seriously believe what you wanna believe. I think I’ve shot my wad on this subject. If you don’t wanna agree I frankly don’t give a fuck.

[el numero uno]

So we are closing down the entire world over 1 in 1000 chance of dying if you are over 70 and have a preexisting condition?

LOL


The chances of dying by being shot if you are black and living in Chicago is 1 in 1000 but I don't see anyone closing the entire city down over it.


Do you drive a car? well... did you know you have a 2 out of 3 chance of being involved in a drunk driving accident in your lifetime? BAN CARS!!

A small percentage of a big number is still a big number.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Common Anti-Parasite Drug May Kill Coronavirus in Under 48 Hours, Say Researchers


https://www.breitbart.com/border/2020/04/04/common-anti-parasite-drug-may-kill-coronavirus-in-under-48-hours-say-researchers/