Covid 19 - We are all screwed - discuss

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[TheGrinch]

The libs will cherish the new found control over them and be the 1st ones to report their neighbor for non-compliance

1984 here we come!

[Slapper]

This rubbish is simply more of the same faggetry that has permeated the country for the last generation.

-everyone gets a trophy no matter how much or how little you contribute  
-play sports but don't keep score
-everyone's actions, no matter how absurd are to be accepted

Now after this exercise in stupidity is over, all the cowards who stayed home and hide under their bed and literally drove around in their own car wearing a mask and gloves will be able to take credit for "saving humanity."

The scared and the weak get another trophy for doing jack and shit.
Towards.

It's "faggotry" and "jackshit".

[friedchickendinner]

So whats new? Still just a flu or have you guys moved on?

[illuminati]

This rubbish is simply more of the same faggetry that has permeated the country for the last generation.

-everyone gets a trophy no matter how much or how little you contribute  
-play sports but don't keep score
-everyone's actions, no matter how absurd are to be accepted

Now after this exercise in stupidity is over, all the cowards who stayed home and hide under their bed and literally drove around in their own car wearing a mask and gloves will be able to take credit for "saving humanity."

The scared and the weak get another trophy for doing jack and shit.

Cowards.

Spot on TommyW - And WTF is up with those Retards Driving alone in their car & wearing
A Mask & Gloves are they that Scared & Stupid - Clearly so- Poor ole Snowflakes.

[Dokey111]

What about this scenario - the gov't declares that if you are not wearing a mask, you are considered a threat to the public health.  Civilians can kill other civilians if they are a "threat".  Would make a good movie (I hope is all).

[Gregzs]

Philly Police Drag Man From Bus for Not Wearing a Face Mask


The below video, shared on social media on Friday, shows multiple police officers in Philadelphia forcibly removing a man from a public bus for enforcing what was — apparently as a result of this incident — an exceptionally short-lived mandate requiring riders to wear face masks:

Under a new coronavirus-prompted policy, which went into effect Thursday under the name “Lifeline Service Schedule,” the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority announced service cuts and said it was “now asking all riders to wear masks or other facial coverings, consistent with new CDC guidelines, to protect both riders and operators.” This was apparently not a request, however, as riders soon began reporting instances of people not being allowed on public transit vehicles if they weren’t wearing a mask:

In a statement to WHYY on Friday, a SEPTA spokesperson confirmed that masks were indeed a requirement for customers, emphasizing that the agency was looking to avoid arresting anyone for violating the policy, and that “the covering can be as simple as a shirt, bandana or anything else someone can grab at home before they head out.” WHYY also reports that transit police were informed of the mandate on Wednesday in an emailed directive from the SEPTA police chief. It’s not clear if or how well this mandate was actually communicated to riders, however, or how widely it was enforced — or if it was even legal.

After the video of the rider’s violent ejection went viral, SEPTA officials said the policy was being reviewed and police said they were investigating the incident. SEPTA later rescinded the policy.

According to CBSN Philly, SEPTA operators briefly had the right to refuse service to customers who weren’t wearing masks, which is reportedly what happened on Friday:

During Friday’s press conference, Philadelphia Managing Director Brian Abernathy says the bus driver initially asked the man to get off the bus since he wasn’t wearing a mask. The bus driver then pulled over and called police after the man refused to leave.


“Police were not responding to the social distancing complaint, police were responding to the fact the person was asked to leave the bus and refused,” Abernathy said.

But as seen in the video, the passenger was not arrested or fined afterward, and as CBSN notes, “some sort of official boarded the bus telling everyone without a mask, that they had to exit or that police would physically remove them. That one man didn’t get off and that’s why he was physically removed.”

The Philly Transit Riders Union, which called attention to the incident on Friday, released a statement detailing SEPTA’s failures and highlighting a far easier way to have dealt with the situation. “If riding public transit requires a face mask,” the organization said, “then SEPTA must provide masks to transit workers and riders”:

On Thursday, SEPTA “urged” riders to wear face masks, despite masks still being listed as a prohibited item on other parts of SEPTA’s website. At some point later in the day, masks apparently became a “condition for riding transit,” although a rider would only know this if they asked SEPTA directly on Twitter. Bus operators received a conflicting message that transit riders did not have to wear a mask.



Under normal conditions, conflicting messages from SEPTA management might only cost riders their time– missed birthdays, graduations, job interviews, doctor’s appointments. During the COVID-19 pandemic, an interaction with an armed police officer could cost a Philly transit rider their life.

On Tuesday, the agency confirmed that three Philadelphia transit workers had been killed by COVID-19, and as of Friday, at least 100 SEPTA employees had tested positive for the coronavirus. While it hasn’t been hit anywhere near as hard as the MTA has in New York City, SEPTA has still been rocked by the virus and seen ridership plummet. The agency has also been accused of putting “profit over people” by Transport Workers Union Local 234 president Willie Brown, who has said SEPTA was too slow to enact policies to protect its workforce.

The now widely seen incident in Philadelphia obviously comes at a particularly tense time throughout the country, as authorities and the public navigate brand new legal and social norms amid efforts to confront and contain the coronavirus. The risk of contagion is one problem; the risk of violence and intolerance caused by fear or misunderstanding of contagion is another. And while wearing face masks in public may be what the CDC finally came around to recommending, that doesn’t mean everyone is going to find and wear one, or is going to feel safer if they do:

“This (wearing a homemade mask) seems like a reasonable response unless you just sort of take American society out of it. When you can’t do that, you’re basically telling people to look dangerous given racial stereotypes that are out there,” Trevon Logan, an economics professor at Ohio State University, recently explained to CNN. “This is in the larger context of black men fitting the description of a suspect who has a hood on, who has a face covering on. It looks like almost every criminal sketch of any garden-variety black suspect.”

Thanks to the coronavirus pandemic, public mask-wearing is undoubtedly going to become far more widespread in America, even if or when the threat of COVID-19 has passed. In the meantime, state, local, and federal authorities still seem to be designing their public-health policies on the fly, leaving lots of room for screwups, confusion, and overreach or abuse. Friday’s incident in Philadelphia is unlikely to be the last of its kind.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/philly-police-drag-man-from-bus-for-not-wearing-a-face-mask.html

[friedchickendinner]

In some countries people are not allowed to wear masks, so they protest by wearing masks.

And now people has to wear masks, so people protest by not wearing masks.

[tommywishbone]

It's "faggotry" and "jackshit".

It's "kiss" and "my ass."

[Griffith]

In some countries people are not allowed to wear masks, so they protest by wearing masks.

And now people has to wear masks, so people protest by not wearing masks.

Then let them get infected, no one cares.

[Flexacon]

Then let them get infected, no one cares.

Masks don't really stop you from getting infected, more wearing one stops you infecting others. So masks only work if everyone is wearing them.

[friedchickendinner]

Depends on the mask.

[Griffith]

Masks don't really stop you from getting infected, more wearing one stops you infecting others. So masks only work if everyone is wearing them.

Surely the mask can help or considerably reduce chances, the N95 masks.

[Flexacon]

Surely the mask can help or considerably reduce chances, the N95 masks.

Yes. but good luck getting a single N95 mask right now let alone a new N95 mask for each day full you're out.

Also you'd really need to wear eye protection/googles with an N95 to provide you with superior protection. Otherwise you're not really that much more protected than you would be with a well fitted cloth mask.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

Spot on TommyW - And WTF is up with those Retards Driving alone in their car & wearing
A Mask & Gloves are they that Scared & Stupid - Clearly so- Poor ole Snowflakes.

 

Those pizza eaters, Coke & soy latte drinkers get screwed, snowflakes have no immune system !.

[Flexacon]

 

Those pizza eaters, Coke & soy latte drinkers get screwed, snowflakes have no immune system !.

The big one you left out are anaemic vegans who are often immunocompromised because of iron deficiency.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

I met a Nobel Prize winner - William Shockley. He was a fucking jerk. If you think that it requires some politically motivated prize to guarantee competence, you are sadly mistaken.

Some black muslim guy from America (1 with trans wife) was given that medal too ...............no idea for what 

[dario73]

So whats new? Still just a flu or have you guys moved on?

It is still just A flu. Almost 98% of people infected survive.

So you tell me.  Are 2 million people in USA still going to die? So far the SCIENTIFIC community has had to "revise" their models 3 times. First it was 2 million were going to die. Then it was 100k to 200k. Now it is less than 100k, maybe it will be 40k.

Two years ago 60k people died of the flu in the USA. I believe this flu season has claimed over 30k SO FAR. And all that is with an existing flu shot. How come we are not stopping life and taking the same mediation measures every year?

[pamith]

I don't believe in coronavirus

[friedchickendinner]

Yes. but good luck getting a single N95 mask right now let alone a new N95 mask for each day full you're out.

Also you'd really need to wear eye protection/googles with an N95 to provide you with superior protection. Otherwise you're not really that much more protected than you would be with a well fitted cloth mask.

I would think it's far more likely you inhale it through your mouth than it gets to you through the eyes.

Do you have any reason to think otherwise?

[friedchickendinner]

It is still just A flu. Almost 98% of people infected survive.

So you tell me.  Are 2 million people in USA still going to die? So far the SCIENTIFIC community has had to "revise" their models 3 times. First it was 2 million were going to die. Then it was 100k to 200k. Now it is less than 100k, maybe it will be 40k.

Two years ago 60k people died of the flu in the USA. I believe this flu season has claimed over 30k SO FAR. And all that is with an existing flu shot. How come we are not stopping life and taking the same mediation measures every year?

I reckon the reason life isn't stopped every year is because it's manageable, this one wasn't.

The evidence that this virus isn't manageble is that every single country on the planet has acted with various types of lock downs.

As far as numbers dead - we will have to add to that list everybody that will die because of suicide, depression etc due to the mass unemployment that will follow in its steps.

[Flexacon]

I would think it's far more likely you inhale it through your mouth than it gets to you through the eyes.

Do you have any reason to think otherwise?

Cloth masks protect against droplets, but not against aerosolization. N95 protect better against aerosolization, but aerosolization can still infect through the eyes.

This diagram should help. For now it would be best practice to leave the N95 masks for hospital staff. Just wear a cloth mask and some large glasses/shades, but this only works effectively if everyone wears a mask as infected people are then breathing/coughing into their mask and not into their surroundings.

[dearth]

Dear leader has it all under control!
But apparently his underlings fear his stupidity has gone too far!





https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-likes-virus-briefings-some-advisers-worry-he-likes-them-too-much/ar-BB12umvF

Trump likes virus briefings. Some advisers worry he likes them too much.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Cooped up in the White House, President Donald Trump sees the coronavirus
briefings as his main outlet of the day, a reminder for Americans that he is in charge of managing the greatest crisis of a lifetime. Plus, the ratings are good.

Mike Pence, Donald Trump are posing for a picture: President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington© Reuters/YURI GRIPAS President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington
Some advisers, however, would prefer a less-is-more approach. They have quietly recommended he not spend so much time at the briefings to avoid being distracted from the challenge at hand and bickering with reporters.


"It's been suggested a few times, but he thinks it's just great, and all these ratings," said a source familiar with the situation.

After an initial bump, polls show approval ratings for Trump's handling of the pandemic have leveled off, a departure from the usual surge of support Americans typically show their president during a national crisis, such as the high ratings George W. Bush received after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

In a further blow, Trump is down against his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, in most recent national election polls, even though Biden has been reduced to appearing on video from a room in his home, unable to hold campaign events because of the virus.

All of this has caused some alarm among the president's advisers, in and out of the White House.

News to stay informed. Advice to stay safe.
Click here for complete coronavirus coverage from Microsoft News
While Trump has boasted about the high numbers of Americans who tune in to the briefings, some of the advisers feel he would appear to be more in command if he came to the briefing room, delivered opening remarks and turned the proceedings over to the task force for the details.

"I don't think it's helping him," a Republican close to the White House said of Trump's lengthy appearances. "If you look at the polling, his job approval numbers are under water. And this is the high water mark part of this crisis. As time goes on, I think things get worse for him. He just hasn't gotten a huge bounce out of the 'rally around the president' aspect of the crisis."


The debate over the briefings is only part of how daily life has abruptly changed for Trump.

CAMPAIGN ON PAUSE

Six weeks ago, he was feeding off the energy of packed campaign rallies, watching the Democratic debates on television and critiquing each candidate's performance, spending weekends at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida and playing rounds of golf.

Now, he is fetched up in the Oval Office or sitting at the end of a dining table in the room directly adjacent, TV on in the background, and a phone almost permanently held to his ear.

He talks to governors, emergency management officials, business leaders, lawmakers, people with problems for him to solve, others with solutions to offer. He has always spent many hours on the phone, aides say, but now there is an extra intensity.

His re-election campaign is on pause with no rallies planned and fund-raising events behind held online.

Advisers say Trump privately frets about the state of the collapsing economy, the strength of which earlier this year he had considered a crown jewel of his presidency and the best case for his re-election in November.

The drop-by meetings of counselors and friends that he craves have been sharply curtailed. Anybody who comes close to the president has to be tested for the virus, delaying in-person meetings and limiting the number of them.

The daily briefings are now Trump's main connection to the outside world. Aides said his participation every day was not initially intended. Vice President Mike Pence, head of the coronavirus task force, handled the first few on his own with members of his team. Trump then became more involved.

"He's not able to get out of the house right now which is tough. I thinks he just craves people and TV time. He can't go out and do any events," said the source familiar with the situation.

Trump has a speechwriter prepare an opening statement, but after reading it aloud he will often preside over a briefing and question-and-answer session that can last more than two hours.

Proceedings can frequently veer off track. One argument he got into earlier this week over whether people should vote by mail - he was opposed - was seen inside Trump's team as an example of why he should participate less in the briefings.

Others see a Trumpian strategy at play. Television networks have little choice but to air some or all of the briefings, which still receive high ratings as Americans marooned in their homes tune in for details on when the crisis might subside.

Cliff Sims, a former White House official for Trump, said the president is making good use of his appearances.

"They play to his strength as a communicator and make him an ubiquitous presence in people's lives during a crisis," he said.

[visualizeperfection]

Dear leader has it all under control!
But apparently his underlings fear his stupidity has gone too far!





https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-likes-virus-briefings-some-advisers-worry-he-likes-them-too-much/ar-BB12umvF

Trump likes virus briefings. Some advisers worry he likes them too much.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Cooped up in the White House, President Donald Trump sees the coronavirus
briefings as his main outlet of the day, a reminder for Americans that he is in charge of managing the greatest crisis of a lifetime. Plus, the ratings are good.

Mike Pence, Donald Trump are posing for a picture: President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington© Reuters/YURI GRIPAS President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington
Some advisers, however, would prefer a less-is-more approach. They have quietly recommended he not spend so much time at the briefings to avoid being distracted from the challenge at hand and bickering with reporters.


"It's been suggested a few times, but he thinks it's just great, and all these ratings," said a source familiar with the situation.

After an initial bump, polls show approval ratings for Trump's handling of the pandemic have leveled off, a departure from the usual surge of support Americans typically show their president during a national crisis, such as the high ratings George W. Bush received after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

In a further blow, Trump is down against his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, in most recent national election polls, even though Biden has been reduced to appearing on video from a room in his home, unable to hold campaign events because of the virus.

All of this has caused some alarm among the president's advisers, in and out of the White House.

News to stay informed. Advice to stay safe.
Click here for complete coronavirus coverage from Microsoft News
While Trump has boasted about the high numbers of Americans who tune in to the briefings, some of the advisers feel he would appear to be more in command if he came to the briefing room, delivered opening remarks and turned the proceedings over to the task force for the details.

"I don't think it's helping him," a Republican close to the White House said of Trump's lengthy appearances. "If you look at the polling, his job approval numbers are under water. And this is the high water mark part of this crisis. As time goes on, I think things get worse for him. He just hasn't gotten a huge bounce out of the 'rally around the president' aspect of the crisis."


The debate over the briefings is only part of how daily life has abruptly changed for Trump.

CAMPAIGN ON PAUSE

Six weeks ago, he was feeding off the energy of packed campaign rallies, watching the Democratic debates on television and critiquing each candidate's performance, spending weekends at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida and playing rounds of golf.

Now, he is fetched up in the Oval Office or sitting at the end of a dining table in the room directly adjacent, TV on in the background, and a phone almost permanently held to his ear.

He talks to governors, emergency management officials, business leaders, lawmakers, people with problems for him to solve, others with solutions to offer. He has always spent many hours on the phone, aides say, but now there is an extra intensity.

His re-election campaign is on pause with no rallies planned and fund-raising events behind held online.

Advisers say Trump privately frets about the state of the collapsing economy, the strength of which earlier this year he had considered a crown jewel of his presidency and the best case for his re-election in November.

The drop-by meetings of counselors and friends that he craves have been sharply curtailed. Anybody who comes close to the president has to be tested for the virus, delaying in-person meetings and limiting the number of them.

The daily briefings are now Trump's main connection to the outside world. Aides said his participation every day was not initially intended. Vice President Mike Pence, head of the coronavirus task force, handled the first few on his own with members of his team. Trump then became more involved.

"He's not able to get out of the house right now which is tough. I thinks he just craves people and TV time. He can't go out and do any events," said the source familiar with the situation.

Trump has a speechwriter prepare an opening statement, but after reading it aloud he will often preside over a briefing and question-and-answer session that can last more than two hours.

Proceedings can frequently veer off track. One argument he got into earlier this week over whether people should vote by mail - he was opposed - was seen inside Trump's team as an example of why he should participate less in the briefings.

Others see a Trumpian strategy at play. Television networks have little choice but to air some or all of the briefings, which still receive high ratings as Americans marooned in their homes tune in for details on when the crisis might subside.

Cliff Sims, a former White House official for Trump, said the president is making good use of his appearances.

"They play to his strength as a communicator and make him an ubiquitous presence in people's lives during a crisis," he said.

240, no one reads your walls of nonsense. Please fuck off.

[FitnessFrenzy]

Those pizza eaters, Coke & soy latte drinkers get screwed, snowflakes have no immune system !.