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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #2975 on: April 12, 2020, 02:32:41 AM »
I would think it's far more likely you inhale it through your mouth than it gets to you through the eyes.

Do you have any reason to think otherwise?

Cloth masks protect against droplets, but not against aerosolization. N95 protect better against aerosolization, but aerosolization can still infect through the eyes.

This diagram should help. For now it would be best practice to leave the N95 masks for hospital staff. Just wear a cloth mask and some large glasses/shades, but this only works effectively if everyone wears a mask as infected people are then breathing/coughing into their mask and not into their surroundings.



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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #2976 on: April 12, 2020, 09:24:23 AM »
Dear leader has it all under control!
But apparently his underlings fear his stupidity has gone too far!





https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-likes-virus-briefings-some-advisers-worry-he-likes-them-too-much/ar-BB12umvF

Trump likes virus briefings. Some advisers worry he likes them too much.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Cooped up in the White House, President Donald Trump sees the coronavirus
briefings as his main outlet of the day, a reminder for Americans that he is in charge of managing the greatest crisis of a lifetime. Plus, the ratings are good.


Mike Pence, Donald Trump are posing for a picture: President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington© Reuters/YURI GRIPAS President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington
Some advisers, however, would prefer a less-is-more approach. They have quietly recommended he not spend so much time at the briefings to avoid being distracted from the challenge at hand and bickering with reporters.


"It's been suggested a few times, but he thinks it's just great, and all these ratings," said a source familiar with the situation.

After an initial bump, polls show approval ratings for Trump's handling of the pandemic have leveled off, a departure from the usual surge of support Americans typically show their president during a national crisis, such as the high ratings George W. Bush received after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

In a further blow, Trump is down against his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, in most recent national election polls, even though Biden has been reduced to appearing on video from a room in his home, unable to hold campaign events because of the virus.

All of this has caused some alarm among the president's advisers, in and out of the White House.

News to stay informed. Advice to stay safe.
Click here for complete coronavirus coverage from Microsoft News
While Trump has boasted about the high numbers of Americans who tune in to the briefings, some of the advisers feel he would appear to be more in command if he came to the briefing room, delivered opening remarks and turned the proceedings over to the task force for the details.

"I don't think it's helping him," a Republican close to the White House said of Trump's lengthy appearances. "If you look at the polling, his job approval numbers are under water. And this is the high water mark part of this crisis. As time goes on, I think things get worse for him. He just hasn't gotten a huge bounce out of the 'rally around the president' aspect of the crisis."


The debate over the briefings is only part of how daily life has abruptly changed for Trump.

CAMPAIGN ON PAUSE

Six weeks ago, he was feeding off the energy of packed campaign rallies, watching the Democratic debates on television and critiquing each candidate's performance, spending weekends at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida and playing rounds of golf.

Now, he is fetched up in the Oval Office or sitting at the end of a dining table in the room directly adjacent, TV on in the background, and a phone almost permanently held to his ear.

He talks to governors, emergency management officials, business leaders, lawmakers, people with problems for him to solve, others with solutions to offer. He has always spent many hours on the phone, aides say, but now there is an extra intensity.

His re-election campaign is on pause with no rallies planned and fund-raising events behind held online.

Advisers say Trump privately frets about the state of the collapsing economy, the strength of which earlier this year he had considered a crown jewel of his presidency and the best case for his re-election in November.

The drop-by meetings of counselors and friends that he craves have been sharply curtailed. Anybody who comes close to the president has to be tested for the virus, delaying in-person meetings and limiting the number of them.

The daily briefings are now Trump's main connection to the outside world. Aides said his participation every day was not initially intended. Vice President Mike Pence, head of the coronavirus task force, handled the first few on his own with members of his team. Trump then became more involved.

"He's not able to get out of the house right now which is tough. I thinks he just craves people and TV time. He can't go out and do any events," said the source familiar with the situation.

Trump has a speechwriter prepare an opening statement, but after reading it aloud he will often preside over a briefing and question-and-answer session that can last more than two hours.

Proceedings can frequently veer off track. One argument he got into earlier this week over whether people should vote by mail - he was opposed - was seen inside Trump's team as an example of why he should participate less in the briefings.

Others see a Trumpian strategy at play. Television networks have little choice but to air some or all of the briefings, which still receive high ratings as Americans marooned in their homes tune in for details on when the crisis might subside.

Cliff Sims, a former White House official for Trump, said the president is making good use of his appearances.

"They play to his strength as a communicator and make him an ubiquitous presence in people's lives during a crisis," he said.

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #2977 on: April 12, 2020, 09:25:54 AM »
Dear leader has it all under control!
But apparently his underlings fear his stupidity has gone too far!





https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-likes-virus-briefings-some-advisers-worry-he-likes-them-too-much/ar-BB12umvF

Trump likes virus briefings. Some advisers worry he likes them too much.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Cooped up in the White House, President Donald Trump sees the coronavirus
briefings as his main outlet of the day, a reminder for Americans that he is in charge of managing the greatest crisis of a lifetime. Plus, the ratings are good.


Mike Pence, Donald Trump are posing for a picture: President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington© Reuters/YURI GRIPAS President Donald Trump and the Coronavirus Task Force hold a press briefing in Washington
Some advisers, however, would prefer a less-is-more approach. They have quietly recommended he not spend so much time at the briefings to avoid being distracted from the challenge at hand and bickering with reporters.


"It's been suggested a few times, but he thinks it's just great, and all these ratings," said a source familiar with the situation.

After an initial bump, polls show approval ratings for Trump's handling of the pandemic have leveled off, a departure from the usual surge of support Americans typically show their president during a national crisis, such as the high ratings George W. Bush received after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

In a further blow, Trump is down against his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, in most recent national election polls, even though Biden has been reduced to appearing on video from a room in his home, unable to hold campaign events because of the virus.

All of this has caused some alarm among the president's advisers, in and out of the White House.

News to stay informed. Advice to stay safe.
Click here for complete coronavirus coverage from Microsoft News
While Trump has boasted about the high numbers of Americans who tune in to the briefings, some of the advisers feel he would appear to be more in command if he came to the briefing room, delivered opening remarks and turned the proceedings over to the task force for the details.

"I don't think it's helping him," a Republican close to the White House said of Trump's lengthy appearances. "If you look at the polling, his job approval numbers are under water. And this is the high water mark part of this crisis. As time goes on, I think things get worse for him. He just hasn't gotten a huge bounce out of the 'rally around the president' aspect of the crisis."


The debate over the briefings is only part of how daily life has abruptly changed for Trump.

CAMPAIGN ON PAUSE

Six weeks ago, he was feeding off the energy of packed campaign rallies, watching the Democratic debates on television and critiquing each candidate's performance, spending weekends at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida and playing rounds of golf.

Now, he is fetched up in the Oval Office or sitting at the end of a dining table in the room directly adjacent, TV on in the background, and a phone almost permanently held to his ear.

He talks to governors, emergency management officials, business leaders, lawmakers, people with problems for him to solve, others with solutions to offer. He has always spent many hours on the phone, aides say, but now there is an extra intensity.

His re-election campaign is on pause with no rallies planned and fund-raising events behind held online.

Advisers say Trump privately frets about the state of the collapsing economy, the strength of which earlier this year he had considered a crown jewel of his presidency and the best case for his re-election in November.

The drop-by meetings of counselors and friends that he craves have been sharply curtailed. Anybody who comes close to the president has to be tested for the virus, delaying in-person meetings and limiting the number of them.

The daily briefings are now Trump's main connection to the outside world. Aides said his participation every day was not initially intended. Vice President Mike Pence, head of the coronavirus task force, handled the first few on his own with members of his team. Trump then became more involved.

"He's not able to get out of the house right now which is tough. I thinks he just craves people and TV time. He can't go out and do any events," said the source familiar with the situation.

Trump has a speechwriter prepare an opening statement, but after reading it aloud he will often preside over a briefing and question-and-answer session that can last more than two hours.

Proceedings can frequently veer off track. One argument he got into earlier this week over whether people should vote by mail - he was opposed - was seen inside Trump's team as an example of why he should participate less in the briefings.

Others see a Trumpian strategy at play. Television networks have little choice but to air some or all of the briefings, which still receive high ratings as Americans marooned in their homes tune in for details on when the crisis might subside.

Cliff Sims, a former White House official for Trump, said the president is making good use of his appearances.

"They play to his strength as a communicator and make him an ubiquitous presence in people's lives during a crisis," he said.

240, no one reads your walls of nonsense. Please fuck off.

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« Reply #2978 on: April 12, 2020, 09:26:03 AM »
Those pizza eaters, Coke & soy latte drinkers get screwed, snowflakes have no immune system !.


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« Reply #2979 on: April 12, 2020, 10:56:12 AM »
A BELFAST pub is pulling out all the stops  - and the pints - to keep spirits up for those living in lockdown with a door-to-door Guinness delivery service.


The Hatfield House on Ormeau Road in south Belfast has been delivering freshly-poured pints of Guinness to customers across the Northern Irish capital since the coronavirus pandemic prompted the temporary closure of all pubs.

Using a state-of-the-art van kitted out with a portable tap system, the service was created to help cater to those missing the distinctive taste of a perfectly poured pint of the black stuff.

Customers simply call up Hatfield House, place their orders the day before delivery and, before they know it, a fresh pint of Guinness is on its way.

Mobile bar staff are also careful to ensure it’s a contact-free service too, with drinks poured on location into plastic glasses by bar staff wearing latex gloves which are then left on the doorstep.

Writing on Facebook, The Hatfield House said: "We are delighted to be able to offer all our customers the goodness of a freshly poured pint delivered to their home in the safety of isolation.

"The service areas in the mobile units are sanitised after every use for your safety. Looking forward to serving you all soon.

"Stay safe, stay home and let us bring the pub to you."

The pub was keen to stress any prospective customers approaching them on the street will be turned away – as rules over social distancing dictate.

They said: "Folks as with all our deliveries this is a contact free service please do not approach us on the street if you see us.

"We cannot accept an order unless it has been called through to the number above. This is for the safety of both our customers and staff."

With the lockdown likely to continue for the next few weeks at least, The Hatfield House is likely to be very busy.

https://www.irishpost.com/news/belfast-pub-delivering-pints-freshly-poured-guinness-door-door-lockdown-183328?fbclid=IwAR3lG_Vd3Vg_BEgXfk4tx4wEgfRgDnaZbYNTREWgmFoR3vF5PYAlu62nX3g

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« Reply #2980 on: April 12, 2020, 11:27:36 AM »


listen from 7 mins onwards

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« Reply #2981 on: April 12, 2020, 12:27:40 PM »
Pure folly.

The strong and the smart are now suffering because of the weak and the dumb.

The whole thing is bullshit.
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« Reply #2982 on: April 12, 2020, 12:35:10 PM »
Dr Shivas videos are a good watch from a science/health point of view even if the deep state and global elites theory are too much for you.




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« Reply #2983 on: April 12, 2020, 12:50:55 PM »
And now a certain minority group are claiming that they are suffering more than other groups so they need more help... more free shit.  Lovely.

Laughable.
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« Reply #2984 on: April 12, 2020, 02:03:46 PM »


Question is : Who is paying you for those Safety Fat creations  ???

                                      ;D

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« Reply #2985 on: April 12, 2020, 02:15:01 PM »
240, no one reads your walls of nonsense. Please fuck off.

Moron thinks he will influence others  ::)

His nursing home lifestyle must be so exiting  ;D

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« Reply #2986 on: April 12, 2020, 04:00:56 PM »
And now a certain minority group are claiming that they are suffering more than other groups so they need more help... more free shit.  Lovely.

Laughable.
Could you be more specific on which group that is??  :D

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« Reply #2987 on: April 12, 2020, 06:41:23 PM »
2020 Burning Man Canceled, Virtual Black Rock City Staged Instead


You can add the annual Burning Man festival to the list of events affected by the Covid-19 pandemic. Burning Man officials have revealed that the annual event in the desert has been canceled, but there is a virtual alternative coming.

The retreat into the Nevada desert was scheduled for the week of Aug. 30-Sept. 7, but the on-sale for Burning Man 2020 was halted last month as pandemic measures started being taken across the U.S. Organizers have offered a refund to those who purchased "early bird" tickets. However, it appears as though officials are also attempting to keep the spirit of Burning Man alive in the virtual world this year.

https://loudwire.com/2020-burning-man-canceled-virtual-black-rock-city/

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« Reply #2988 on: April 12, 2020, 06:58:33 PM »
Over 22,000 dead in the US...apparently most if not all black, says the media.  WTF?

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« Reply #2989 on: April 12, 2020, 08:06:55 PM »
Illness and death have always been a part of life.

This madness we now endure has NEVER been a part of life.

This is going to go very bad very fast if this stupidity does not end.
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« Reply #2990 on: April 12, 2020, 08:07:15 PM »
And now a certain minority group are claiming that they are suffering more than other groups so they need more help... more free shit.  Lovely.

Laughable.

Which minority group? I have a feeling I won't be surprised at your answer.

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« Reply #2991 on: April 12, 2020, 09:45:48 PM »
This economic shut down is the biggest mistake this country has ever made. Madness.

The virus is shit. Shutting off the economy is insanity. 
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« Reply #2992 on: April 12, 2020, 09:50:00 PM »
This economic shut down is the biggest mistake this country has ever made. Madness.

The virus is shit. Shutting off the economy is insanity. 

You and I are in TOTAL agreement on these matters, friend.

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« Reply #2993 on: April 12, 2020, 10:10:15 PM »
Agree.

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« Reply #2994 on: April 12, 2020, 11:13:57 PM »
Agree.

You pushed the message like crazy that this was horrific and end of days like stuff.

Or did you change your mind?

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« Reply #2995 on: April 13, 2020, 12:29:49 AM »
And now a certain minority group are claiming that they are suffering more than other groups so they need more help... more free shit.  Lovely.

Laughable.

Honestly, I would like to see proof of this. When I first heard about it, it seemed bogus. Right now there are so many scientists and others doing multitudes of studies that I suspect everyone is searching for reasons why they are either less likely or more likely to become infected with the coronavirus...COVID-19 are willing to immediately buy into unproven theories.

Obviously, those who have less access to medical care are more likely to become seriously sick and possibly die from COVID-19. Whether or not some groups are more likely to contract the virus is at best, inconclusive.

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« Reply #2996 on: April 13, 2020, 01:03:16 AM »
And now a certain minority group are claiming that they are suffering more than other groups so they need more help... more free shit.  Lovely.

Laughable.

What group?
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« Reply #2997 on: April 13, 2020, 01:25:34 AM »
Honestly, I wish I was gagging on some thick ass cock right about now

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« Reply #2998 on: April 13, 2020, 01:47:56 AM »

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« Reply #2999 on: April 13, 2020, 02:17:49 AM »
What group?



https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/04/12/coronavirus-update-de-blasio-says-rate-of-increase-in-cases-has-slowed/

The mayor said he aims to create community testing sites by the end of the week at:
* East New York, Brooklyn
* Morrisania, the Bronx
* Harlem
* Jamaica, Queens
* The Vanderbilt Clinic on Staten Island


East New YorK


The racial makeup of the neighborhood was 63.6% (58,453) African American, 3.0% (2,764) Asian, 1.3% (1,240) White, 0.3% (291) Native American, 0.0% (38) Pacific Islander, 0.7% (683) from other races, and 1.3% (1,237) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 29.6% (27,252) of the population.[3]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrisania,_Bronx

Today's Morrisania is a low-income neighborhood that predominantly consists of Latin Americans and African Americans.