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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #3350 on: April 28, 2020, 08:37:57 AM »
Like I said several days ago, don't sell the middle seat for now.  JetBlue gets the idea. Masks and gloves are mando.  I should be in Washington running this sh!t  ::)



JetBlue becomes first airline to require passengers to wear masks

JetBlue on Monday became the first airline to announce that all passengers will have to wear a face covering on flights.

Starting May 4, passengers will be required to wear a mask that covers their nose and mouth during the duration of each flight and also during check-in, boarding and deplaning, according to a JetBlue statement.

"We are also asking our customers to follow these CDC guidelines in the airport as well," said Joanna Geraghty, the airline's president and chief operating officer. “Wearing a face covering isn’t about protecting yourself; it’s about protecting those around you.”

The airline has already started requiring flight crew members to wear face coverings on the job.

JetBlue customers will be reminded by email and at the airport to wear a mask. Small children who can't keep a mask on are exempt.

Since late March, JetBlue has reduced the number of seats available on flights so that passengers and crew are able to spread out.

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #3351 on: April 28, 2020, 08:39:32 AM »
Is it we are  doing this or is this someone else doing this that you think is us? It gets confusing sometimes when people think we am this person or that person

must be a bitch managing multiple identities
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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #3352 on: April 28, 2020, 09:25:46 AM »
Instead, because the dumb baby couldn't read his briefing books we have scenes like this:







In trump world

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"I take no responsibility"    <      " Benghazi - oh my god , I'm outraged! "


GOP voters aren't very smart.


So no specific examples as to why you think Trump is incompetent? Not one.

Well, your nonanswer answers my question and my speculation as to why you have come to this conclusion.

It reminds me when I would ask someone why they think Obama or Clinton was such a good president or why Bush was so bad? And they would just say, "Oh, come on?" As if their belief was such common knowledge that it is ridiculous to even suggest otherwise when the real reason was that they had no reason. Again, I've never known of a case when some had arrived at a conclusion through rigorous reason and contemplation that wasn't willing and eager to share their thought process. Why go through all the trouble but just keep your ideas to yourself? It is never the case when their conclusions are purely based on feelings. It's always just "Oh, come on!" or "I don't need to explain myself" as if the whole world should just take them at their word based on no evidence presented. The fact is they just found Obama and Clinton far more likable than Bush and not based on any tangible evidence. Such as your opinion of Trump and just following and jumping on the anti-Trump bandwagon by what you hear from others, i.e., the vast majority of the MSM.

When I was asked why I thought Hillary was incompetent and too corrupt to be President I cited the tragic handling and resulting deaths in the Benghazi incident and the emails and physically destroying the hard disks. You can disagree with my line of reasoning but it is not based on personal feelings pro or con regarding Hillary but based on actual facts that occurred. Compare that with how Trump reacted to the exact same situation, the EXACT SAME INCIDENT, when the Embassy was attacked in Baghdad. He immediately sent in the Marines and crushed that attack with no American casualties. No pussy-footing around or worrying about what the "International Community" would think, which, of course, they condemned. His concern was for American lives not what it would do to his reputation. And he didn't stopped there but continued to target, and kill, the leaders behind this movement and then accused as being just an assassin.

I remember how Nixon was blasted for being an anti-Semite because of recordings they had of him making racist and anti-Semitic remarks in private. And this is the same President who hired Jews to prominent positions, including Henry Kissinger, and literally saved Israel with military support during the Yom Kippur war. All that they ignored because they wanted just another reason to hate Nixon.

I always try to judge people not so much as what they say or what I think their motivations are since I can't read minds, but always by their actions. Remember when ISIS dominated the news during the Obama era just conquering and conquering at will and it was predicted to drag on for many years if not decades? When Trump took over he took off the gloves and crushed them inside a year. That was huge. Huge. But quickly forgotten, and perhaps never known by most, maybe even you, as it didn't really affect you personally and wasn't really covered in the news or give Trump any credit. It dominated the news daily and all of sudden it was gone. Innocent lives being slaughter for their religion. And they were not slaughtered in a humane way. They may be nobodies to you but they, like you, had parents, brothers, sisters, children, and friends. They weren't just nobodies and could have been saved if the present administration at the time acted more like the cantankerous, crude, impatient, but resolute Trump whose first priority was American lives.

You may not like Trump personally and find him repulsive but if it wasn't for him we would still have more scenes like this:




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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #3353 on: April 28, 2020, 09:33:45 AM »
Who would you rather see than Trump, Dearth?

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« Reply #3354 on: April 28, 2020, 09:34:00 AM »
The flu vaccine is generally about 50% effective.

That's because their are several different flus around and the vaccine doesn't cover them all.

This shouldn't be the case with covid, but let's just say I won't be in any rush to get a covid vaccine and I lean more towards pro vaccine normally.

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« Reply #3355 on: April 28, 2020, 09:36:05 AM »
As long as the vaccine is sugar free zero calories

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« Reply #3356 on: April 28, 2020, 11:06:29 AM »
Can we have less text please.

A lot of people are online during these isolation times and we need to save on bandwith. Try to get your point across in 300 characters or less. Thank you.

Good point. I will try to keep this in mind. Being concise has not been my strong suit, (85 characters).

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« Reply #3357 on: April 28, 2020, 11:21:27 AM »
Good point. I will try to keep this in mind. Being concise has not been my strong suit, (85 characters).

You write some good stuff Prime. But no one has an attention span past 3 sentences anymore- a lesson I learned from writing on the net, haha.

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« Reply #3358 on: April 28, 2020, 11:29:03 AM »
You write some good stuff Prime. But no one has an attention span past 3 sentences anymore- a lesson I learned from writing on the net, haha.

That is sad. Twitter is partially to blame.

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« Reply #3359 on: April 28, 2020, 11:44:35 AM »
I've heard this said before.  If this is really happening on a large scale [and not just rarely, or by accident], then that is definitely problematic.

Another thing to consider:

The COVID deaths we are seeing are deaths from a virus that currently has no vaccine, whereas the deaths from the flu are deaths that would otherwise be much higher if no vaccine existed.  So comparing the death counts of each is not an apples to apples comparison.

That being said, the COVID deaths are also at their current number with large scale lock downs in place, and perhaps the COVID deaths would be significantly higher without said measures.  We won't be able to adequately measure this until more time passes and we have more data to analyze.  I still think this virus is being blown out of proportion.

As far as I can tell, those dying under 70 of this virus generally have preexisting conditions.  I'm not yet convinced that COVID is a major risk for the younger segment of the population, or people who are healthy, with strong immune systems, who are not obese, who do not smoke, etc.

But seriously [back to the original point] - if people who die WITH COVID are all being classified as dying FROM COVID, that is extremely disingenuous, and needs to be accounted for in future analyses of the true mortality rate of this virus.

That reminds me of the saying "All men will die with prostate cancer, but not all men die from prostate cancer".

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« Reply #3360 on: April 28, 2020, 11:58:47 AM »
That reminds me of the saying "All men will die with prostate cancer, but not all men die from prostate cancer".

Interesting saying if not strictly accurate. Some of us lucky guys whose prostate cancer is detected early on and who elect to have a radical prostatectomy become prostate cancer free. So unless I grow a replacement prostate, I will die sans prostate cancer.

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #3361 on: April 28, 2020, 12:01:33 PM »
Let the good times roll.  Open up those beaches and packed, shoulder to shoulder house parties.  1st World amenities, 3rd World mindset.  ::)



Confirmed coronavirus cases in U.S. double to 1 million in less than 3 weeks

The number of confirmed cases of the coronavirus in the United States surpassed 1 million on Tuesday, more than doubling in less than three weeks, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

The U.S., home to about 4% of the global population, has reported about one-third of the world’s more than 3 million known coronavirus infections. The first known cases of the virus in China began appearing in December. It took nearly four months for the number of confirmed cases in the U.S. to hit 500,000 on April 10.

Of the more than 213,000 people who have died of COVID-19 worldwide, roughly 25% ― or about 57,000 deaths ― have occurred in the United States.

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« Reply #3362 on: April 28, 2020, 02:06:46 PM »
That's because their are several different flus around and the vaccine doesn't cover them all.

This shouldn't be the case with covid, but let's just say I won't be in any rush to get a covid vaccine and I lean more towards pro vaccine normally.

Heard something about over 40 covid mutations already.

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« Reply #3363 on: April 28, 2020, 02:16:38 PM »
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« Reply #3364 on: April 28, 2020, 02:20:04 PM »
Let the good times roll.  Open up those beaches and packed, shoulder to shoulder house parties.  1st World amenities, 3rd World mindset.  ::)



Confirmed coronavirus cases in U.S. double to 1 million in less than 3 weeks

The number of confirmed cases of the coronavirus in the United States surpassed 1 million on Tuesday, more than doubling in less than three weeks, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

The U.S., home to about 4% of the global population, has reported about one-third of the world’s more than 3 million known coronavirus infections. The first known cases of the virus in China began appearing in December. It took nearly four months for the number of confirmed cases in the U.S. to hit 500,000 on April 10.

Of the more than 213,000 people who have died of COVID-19 worldwide, roughly 25% ― or about 57,000 deaths ― have occurred in the United States.

thats because they have tested people, if you don't mass test (UK) then you have no idea how many people have got or had the virus
UK may have 10 million people infected with no symptoms, until people get tested its all speculation

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« Reply #3366 on: April 28, 2020, 05:44:31 PM »
https://washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/coronavirus-hype-biggest-political-hoax-in-history


Biggest Hoax in History

I agree.

Trump needs to stop listening to Fauci.

He is going to go down if he doesn't.

Enough.

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« Reply #3367 on: April 28, 2020, 06:31:16 PM »
I agree.

Trump needs to stop listening to Fauci.

He is going to go down if he doesn't.

Enough.

Fauci is just a front man, a government shill. It was never about the virus and Trump knows it.


At first, I bought into it like everybody else but when I started to see the responses which were so irrational considering the scope of the problem, I started to smell a rat and eventually I figured out what this is really about, an economic reset and global currency devaluation:

I know how this plays out. To justify these interventions, they’re going to have to artificially bump up the victim numbers to the point where somebody gets hit by a truck and turns out to have a positive corona test is said to have died of corona.



https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/coronavirus-hype-biggest-political-hoax-in-history/

And this: “When I’m writing up my death report I’m being pressured to add COVID. Why is that? Why are we being pressured to add COVID? To maybe increase the numbers, and make it look a little bit worse than it is. We’re being pressured in-house to add COVID to the diagnostic list when we think it has nothing to do with the actual cause of death. The actual cause of death was not COVID, but it’s being reported as one of the diseases processes. … COVID didn’t kill them, 25 years of tobacco use killed.”




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« Reply #3368 on: April 28, 2020, 06:39:42 PM »
THIS is what it’s about:



https://www.bloombergquint.com/global-economics/boj-ramps-up-stimulus-with-pledge-for-unlimited-bond-buying


The central bank promised to buy as many government bonds as needed and more than doubled its buying of corporate debt, as Governor Haruhiko Kuroda tried to show the BOJ was pulling its weight in national efforts to support struggling factory owners, shopkeepers and consumers.

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #3369 on: April 28, 2020, 07:16:21 PM »
Instead, because the dumb baby couldn't read his briefing books we have scenes like this:







In trump world

60,000                              <          4


"I take no responsibility"    <      " Benghazi - oh my god , I'm outraged! "


GOP voters aren't very smart.

So the coronavirus was Trump's fault.

And you wonder why you have no credibility here and people just mock you?

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« Reply #3370 on: April 28, 2020, 07:56:24 PM »
Covid19 is shit. Laughable shit.

America's response is a disgrace. Cowards telling other cowards to hide under their bed. 

I'm 58 years old, weigh 245 pounds and have zero fear of that lame virus. This life never came with a guarantee. I hold nobody responsible for my well being. 

Cowards!
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« Reply #3371 on: April 28, 2020, 09:01:55 PM »
Hawaii, tragically, reported another death from the coronavirus. The now-deceased person had been hospitalized since March 1st and was 65 years old with a number of preexisting conditions. This marks the total death rate to ten for the island since all this began. Again, that's a grand total of ten deaths. The island averages about 10 deaths per day in traffic fatalities alone. Again, 10 deaths a day from driving, and not 10 deaths in two months from the virus. In addition, of all that have contracted the disease, less than 1/10th of one percent of the population, more than 80% have recovered.

Governor Ige has now extended the lockdown for another month to June 1st in which "we will reevaluate". Meanwhile, a long time local drive-in since the early 1950s, Likelike Drive-in (pronounced: Lee-kay Lee-kay, after a Hawaiian princess) and considered by locals as a historic mainstay has been forced to shut it's doors forever. A charming family business that's been around for 70 years. A business that one family built and maintained for many decades and help raise and educate four generations
now gone forever. A family legacy destroyed.

This is just one of many such stories caused by government officials who are still getting regular and generous paychecks still being paid for by the taxpayers who are no longer getting paid. But it's the one death by a 65-year-old man who was in poor health to begin with that gets front-page news.

But Hawaii will keep electing Left-wing Democrats and keep the Socialist in power.

 

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« Reply #3372 on: April 28, 2020, 09:05:55 PM »
The Left/Right divide is about 50/50. I really wish we could find a way to separate the country and have each side go there own way and live according to the political divide wishing each other well with no hard feelings.

One side can give their money to the government and let the government decide how they should live, and the other have more freedom but be responsible for their actions and the consequences whether good or bad and not demand others bail them out. A world where the streets are littered with homeless bums living off food stamps and welfare paid for by others, crapping and pissing on the streets, and harassing and demanding their QP with cheese, or a world where such behaviors merits an on the spot ass-kicking.

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« Reply #3373 on: April 28, 2020, 11:16:16 PM »
Hawaii, tragically, reported another death from the coronavirus. The now-deceased person had been hospitalized since March 1st and was 65 years old with a number of preexisting conditions. This marks the total death rate to ten for the island since all this began. Again, that's a grand total of ten deaths. The island averages about 10 deaths per day in traffic fatalities alone. Again, 10 deaths a day from driving, and not 10 deaths in two months from the virus. In addition, of all that have contracted the disease, less than 1/10th of one percent of the population, more than 80% have recovered.

Governor Ige has now extended the lockdown for another month to June 1st in which "we will reevaluate". Meanwhile, a long time local drive-in since the early 1950s, Likelike Drive-in (pronounced: Lee-kay Lee-kay, after a Hawaiian princess) and considered by locals as a historic mainstay has been forced to shut it's doors forever. A charming family business that's been around for 70 years. A business that one family built and maintained for many decades and help raise and educate four generations
now gone forever. A family legacy destroyed.

This is just one of many such stories caused by government officials who are still getting regular and generous paychecks still being paid for by the taxpayers who are no longer getting paid. But it's the one death by a 65-year-old man who was in poor health to begin with that gets front-page news.

But Hawaii will keep electing Left-wing Democrats and keep the Socialist in power.


10 or so deaths in 2 months Lockdown- Multiple deaths every day from traffic accidents & Nothing
Something seriously wrong going on - Stop The Lockdown Nonsense across the globe it’s utterly Ridiculous - We’re all going to Die some young some old some seemingly fit & well & some not so
That’s Life Let’s Get On with it & Enjoy everyday we can.

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« Reply #3374 on: April 28, 2020, 11:25:03 PM »
The Left/Right divide is about 50/50. I really wish we could find a way to separate the country and have each side go there own way and live according to the political divide wishing each other well with no hard feelings.

One side can give their money to the government and let the government decide how they should live, and the other have more freedom but be responsible for their actions and the consequences whether good or bad and not demand others bail them out. A world where the streets are littered with homeless bums living off food stamps and welfare paid for by others, crapping and pissing on the streets, and harassing and demanding their QP with cheese, or a world where such behaviors merits an on the spot ass-kicking.


Yes that would be great - only one lot of the 50% would want to either move over or the other 50% to Help them out - when they’ve given all their money away the streets are Full of Crap & Piss & are Totally unsafe - Murderers, Rapists, Paedophiles Free to Roam around As they Have to be Understood & Listened to.... Similar to many of The Islamic indoctrination of Peace once they’ve totally Fcuked up their own country they’re off to find a Better place to Live & Gradually Fcuk that up also if they’re not rigidly kept in check.