This is disturbing. The rise of totalitarianism.

[irishdave]

Just drove from San Diego to Santa Bárbara. Traffic is getting heavier, people are saying fuq it, im going out. Good for them. Screw the governor

You are rich if you live there

[pellius]

hahahah of course they would, didnt you learn anything from our previous discussion about the capabilities of humans to do evil things..

Hahaha! Granny-face flapping his lips again. I remember quite well our previous discussion where you were exposed as an amoral, creepy, weirdo. No one agreed with you. You're like the madman on the street corner yelling in the street about doom and gloom. Nobody here takes you seriously. You have no credibility and the official broad's kook. You have no idea how many here in America take the Constitution and the rights guaranteed in it seriously. Even LE and government officials. You're by nature a compliant, submissive, little sissyboy and the stereotypical example of the pussification of men today. Just because you blindly and complacently follow orders without question you assume and project on to others that they are like the sad, weak, pathetic cuck that you are. We're Americans. We escaped your country and it's control and then later kicked your butt and got you out of lives forever. Now you answer to us. We're Americans and we are cut from a much different stock than from the likes like you.

Now get back on all fours as your wife is waiting with her Black strap-on, you despicable little cuck.

-- awaits lame gif and the "meltdown" comment"

[pellius]

No, not on a large scale they wouldn't.

You're trying to reason with a cowardly little bitch that knows nothing about human nature and Americans in particular. His M.O. is to always talk with authority on things he knows nothing about. He was brutally owned after pontificating on the coronavirus and tried to change his tune when exposed on how wrong he was. He, typically, tried to weasel his way out of it like the detestable little snake that he is.

[Marty Champions]

Streets are busier but early shutdowns at grocery stores is concerning. Also they arent keeping things in stock its down at least 30 percent of course plenty of sugary cereals. They are gunning for a lockdown socialist police state i firmly beleive there is a plot to wipe out most of the population through more bad food or they will start bombing and shooting us to keep us safe. They will literally kill us to make us safe.  They will take us out state by state and youll never know once they pull th plug on cell phone or internet. They will flood us out also erased

[Teutonic Knight 1]

Just drove from San Diego to Santa Bárbara. Traffic is getting heavier, people are saying fuq it, im going out. Good for them. Screw the governor

Day after Easter Monday, hardly any trucks & no road trains on the roads in Australia !.Empty buses too !.

[pellius]

The government has literally put small businesses out of business—their liberties have been denied.

I’m still waiting for all the so called getbig bad ass gun totin’ republicans to take up arms (like they said they would).

 

No. They didn't literally put them out of business. That would be when they would "literally" show up to their business and shut them down. The circumstances were such, as so many times in the past, had to close down due to regulations imposed on them. I guess you missed the thread where people commented on things they hate in common speech such as beginning each sentence with the word: "like" or "basically". Well, the constant misuse of the word "literally" was another pet peeve.

You really think that people will take arms at the drop of the hat? You seem to take pleasure and satisfaction that people are not shooting at government officials (though in places like Chicago they are fascinating cops). You expect at this point civilians will form armies and attack the capital. What we are saying is that unlike you, many will only take so much before they rebel. It will start with isolated cases where individuals fight back, then protests and if it gets to the point where people are gunned down and mowed over as they did in China then we will fight back. You may be a very compliant and docile person by nature but don't underestimate the will of a lot of Americans who still have a fighting spirit. We've proved it time and time again.

But this is the divide in this country. People who have a fighting spirit and cherish their personal liberty and freedom and those who have become soft and complacent and think freedom and liberty is the natural state of things and put all their trust in the government and welcome being taken care by them as you stated in another thread. "Who wouldn't want to be taken care of by the government?" Well, not me. Just like why I wanted to move out and be on my own and not be taken care of by my parents well into my thirties like so many "men" do today,

[pellius]

Why would you be against having your personal freedom restricted if it would help save the lives of others?

There is nothing cool, honorable or admirable in being selfish.

Haha! So ignorant of world history. That is the main argument promoted by every totalitarian government. "We are doing it for your own good."

The question is not always what is right or good for you but who should decide. We could be a much safer society if we became a police state. Station police booths every mile. Anyone could be search and arrested for any reason or no reason. Authorities could storm into your house at any time to search for drugs or weapons. We could be much healthier people if we force the population to go to the gym three times a week and perform a government prescribed workout. We could eliminate foods the government deems unhealthy. We could assign food cards that track and limit how much and what you can eat.

Yes, we will be safer and healthier -- but at what cost?

Why would someone be against having their personal freedom restricted for their own good? Because we are Americans.

[pellius]

I wouldn’t take up arms against the entire “government”, I’d take up arms against liberals and those who push the liberal ideology that causes the social shitfests in the first place. It would be fine to eradicate coronavirus and liberalism at the same time.

A dream come true.

[pellius]

people can be easily made to do the wrong thing, peer pressure, not wanting to let the team down, being ridiculed for not doing whats expected even though whats expected is despicable.

History is littered with it

Just weak-willed cucks like you. And, yes, the world is very much littered with the likes of you.

[pellius]

U.S. Citizens put up with all kinds of restrictions during ww2.

Yes, there was rationing which people understood and supported. There was also the internment of the Japanese. Do you support that and use that as a precedent for present-day restrictions on civil liberties because of a disease that is fatal to less than 1% of the population?

[pellius]

I'm concerned for the folks who own two of the gyms I work out at. It's a successful family business. They have a large loyal following of folks like myself who have been members for decades. Some of them, like me, no longer pay dues in the traditional sense because our memberships are covered by our MedAvantage health insurance via Silver and Fit or Silver Sneakers, which only pay the gym when we folks actually show up. Obviously, during this time the gym isn't getting paid. I'm not sure what is happening with their regular members who pay either monthly or annually like I used to do.

I also work out at several locations all over the Portland Metro area of nationally franchised gyms.  L.A. Fitness is not collecting dues during the shutdown according to information they provided when they shut the doors almost a month ago. 24 Hour Fitness is still collecting monthly dues but plan to tack on a free month at the end of annual memberships. Like with the other gyms, these concerns are only paid when we seniors show up.

The other day, when I was craving a cheeseburger and fries, I went to Burgerville, which is a locally owned chain. If other fast food take out operations are a busy as theirs was, these places should be doing fine. However, of the three local Starbucks, only one is open for takeout and that's because it is a drive-though. Another one which is located inside the Safeway grocery store is also open, but only for take-out (walk away), since all seating has been removed. A high-end restaurant near me is open for take out. Since everything there is cooked or fixed to order, people call ahead and are given a pickup time. I haven't tried to order food from my local Chinese restaurant, but they have always had a good take out business. I imagine they are open for take out during this time.

 

You were "craving a cheeseburger and fries"? Poor thing. STFU! You soggy old queer. We're talking about bigger issues here. "Cheeseburger and fries", just fuk off you pampered cuck-sucking pervert!

[pellius]

Would be cool if Fortress one day would tell us some war stories from all his time defending american freedom in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Somalia.

And you could tell us stories about how you were bullied in high school and forced to give everybody blow jobs at frat parties.

[AbrahamG]

And you could tell us stories about how you were bullied in high school and forced to give everybody blow jobs at frat parties.

Legit lol. 

[SOMEPARTS]

I also work out at several locations all over the Portland Metro area of nationally franchised gyms.

Odd behavior.

[pellius]

Odd behavior.

Odd queer.

[SOMEPARTS]

Pellius, this happened in your back yard. Two people flew into HI and were jailed for going to the grocery store.

I mean granted, they don't appear to be too bright(one looks like Beavis and the other looks like Pauly Shore, haha) but for god's sake - they probably just needed to go to the store.


https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/04/11/hawaii-news/911-report/couple-reminded-twice-later-arrested-on-kauai-for-violating-14-day-quarantine/

[SOMEPARTS]

I read a great quote somewhere in the last day.

"making sick people stay home is quarantine, making well people stay home is tyranny"

[pellius]

Pellius, this happened in your back yard. Two people flew into HI and were jailed for going to the grocery store.

I mean granted, they don't appear to be too bright(one looks like Beavis and the other looks like Pauly Shore, haha) but for god's sake - they probably just needed to go to the store.


https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/04/11/hawaii-news/911-report/couple-reminded-twice-later-arrested-on-kauai-for-violating-14-day-quarantine/

And we have a grand total of 9 deaths in all the Hawaiian islands. Most of those were elderly with preexisting conditions. Less than 1/10th of one percent have been diagnosed with the virus and of those over 60% has recovered. We have a total of 36 patients out of a million here on Oahu, the most populated island.

It's bullshit.

[SF1900]

No. They didn't literally put them out of business. That would be when they would "literally" show up to their business and shut them down. The circumstances were such, as so many times in the past, had to close down due to regulations imposed on them. I guess you missed the thread where people commented on things they hate in common speech such as beginning each sentence with the word: "like" or "basically". Well, the constant misuse of the word "literally" was another pet peeve.

You really think that people will take arms at the drop of the hat? You seem to take pleasure and satisfaction that people are not shooting at government officials (though in places like Chicago they are fascinating cops). You expect at this point civilians will form armies and attack the capital. What we are saying is that unlike you, many will only take so much before they rebel. It will start with isolated cases where individuals fight back, then protests and if it gets to the point where people are gunned down and mowed over as they did in China then we will fight back. You may be a very compliant and docile person by nature but don't underestimate the will of a lot of Americans who still have a fighting spirit. We've proved it time and time again.

But this is the divide in this country. People who have a fighting spirit and cherish their personal liberty and freedom and those who have become soft and complacent and think freedom and liberty is the natural state of things and put all their trust in the government and welcome being taken care by them as you stated in another thread. "Who wouldn't want to be taken care of by the government?" Well, not me. Just like why I wanted to move out and be on my own and not be taken care of by my parents well into my thirties like so many "men" do today,

More excuses because it’s all talk. None of you will do anything about it ever. A bunch of internet badasses lol.

Btw, I’d love for the government to take care of me every day.

[pellius]

More excuses because it’s all talk. None of you will do anything about it ever. A bunch of internet badasses lol.

Btw, I’d love for the government to take care of me every day.

No. LOL at you for being a coward and not willing to fight for your civil rights. Our entire history is replete with brave Americans standing up and fighting for their civil rights.

You can make your challenge because it's an easy one. If it ever comes to that and someone fights and defends themselves against government overreach like Randy Weaver did at Ruby Ridge they will not come back to you and say, "See, I told you so." By all indications, you have lived a rather shelter and pampered life and have no idea what kind of Americans are out there. Men of spirit and conviction. That is completing foreign to you.

And just the fact that you would like to be a ward of the State is a very good indication of what kind of man you are. Just like when you lived with your parents while in your thirties, it comes with a cost. You have to obey their rules. Don't think that when you are under government care you are also under government control. But you might not care. As you never had to fight for freedom and don't appreciate what it took to give you this freedom you have become complacent and very willing to trade your freedom for safety and security.

It's so sad that this what has become of so many American men today. So willing to give up their rights and freedoms to the government on the foolish belief that they will take care of them and put their welfare first and foremost.

[friedchickendinner]

Why would someone be against having their personal freedom restricted for their own good? Because we are Americans.

What if restricting your freedom now leads to greater freedom later? Then not restricting your freedom would be unamerican.

[Methyl m1ke]

You were "craving a cheeseburger and fries"? Poor thing. STFU! You soggy old queer. We're talking about bigger issues here. "Cheeseburger and fries", just fuk off you pampered cuck-sucking pervert!

He's like a mold or fungus and it seems just about every thread om getbig these days attracts him in some way shape or form.

[Methyl m1ke]

What if restricting your freedom now leads to greater freedom later? Then not restricting your freedom would be unamerican.

If and when you get out of 5th grade revisit your post here and then see what you think of it.

[friedchickendinner]

And you could tell us stories about how you were bullied in high school and forced to give everybody blow jobs at frat parties.

How many years did you spend in a war zone defending the american freedom?

[friedchickendinner]

If and when you get out of 5th grade revisit your post here and then see what you think of it.

Would you accept any restrictions of freedom to save someone from dying or would that be unamerican?