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Re: Young black man films himself beating old white man
« Reply #100 on: May 23, 2020, 01:17:26 PM »
As far as the corporate media, Tucker Carlson did a great job reporting on it but had to wrap it up in a Covid-19/nursing home package instead of a stand alone story.  At 4:16 below

                                       Internet Fox News did a great job implying the the victim was an elderly black man. Directly below






The dickhead’s father was on the news last night blaming the government and the nursing home for having the dickhead there.

The dad claimed the son has mental illness, has assaulted people previously, and “if he would have known the sick fuck kid was in that home he would have called and told the people in charge he should be moved.”

The media did not use the dad or dickwad kid’s name in the story.

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« Reply #101 on: May 23, 2020, 01:38:26 PM »
The dickhead’s father was on the news last night blaming the government and the nursing home for having the dickhead there.

The dad claimed the son has mental illness, has assaulted people previously, and “if he would have known the sick fuck kid was in that home he would have called and told the people in charge he should be moved.”

The media did not use the dad or dickwad kid’s name in the story.

In the May 22 Tucker report, he says the police haven't released the criminal's name yet. And that probably is true as far as the police go. However, many others, including myself, knew the guy's full name on the morning of the 21st and someone else even typed his name on this thread on the 21st.

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« Reply #102 on: May 23, 2020, 01:40:19 PM »
No, these people were legitimately fired and were eligible for unemployment. The chance of any of them being checked on to see if they even bothered to apply for another job is nil. The unemployment office is so swamped and overwhelming they can't even keep up with the claims let alone contact individuals and get them to submit proof of seeking other unemployment and then having to confirm that.

When his employment runs out he'll just apply for another entry-level position at Walmart, Costco, Pizza Hut, any grocery store or even his old job and be back to where he started except thousands of dollars richer doing nothing during those idle months.

The dems want to extend that juiced up unemployment until the end of Jan 2021.
I doubt that will happen. Let’s hope not anyway.

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« Reply #103 on: May 23, 2020, 01:45:09 PM »
In the May 22 Tucker report, he says the police haven't released the criminal's name yet. And that probably is true as far as the police go. However, many others, including myself, knew the guy's full name on the morning of the 21st and someone else even typed his name on this thread on the 21st.

My understanding is that 4Chan and some other internet sites have posted his name. I have not seen a MSM outlet use his name yet. They only say that he is being held, I’m not sure if he has been charged yet ?

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« Reply #104 on: May 23, 2020, 01:47:28 PM »
No, these people were legitimately fired and were eligible for unemployment. The chance of any of them being checked on to see if they even bothered to apply for another job is nil. The unemployment office is so swamped and overwhelming they can't even keep up with the claims let alone contact individuals and get them to submit proof of seeking other unemployment and then having to confirm that.

When his employment runs out he'll just apply for another entry-level position at Walmart, Costco, Pizza Hut, any grocery store or even his old job and be back to where he started except thousands of dollars richer doing nothing during those idle months.

And as for those that do quit or refuse work or get fired with cause will NOT receive benefits. I am fighting tons of these claims right now and won 100% of them with my employees that quit. If they refuse work once we open, they too will no longer receive benefits.

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« Reply #105 on: May 23, 2020, 01:55:59 PM »
My understanding is that 4Chan and some other internet sites have posted his name. I have not seen a MSM outlet use his name yet. They only say that he is being held, I’m not sure if he has been charged yet ?

4Chan is good for breaking news and even Twitter and a few others. I haven't heard the MSM say his name either but they named and all but convicted Richard Jewell years ago and he was completely innocent.

Jadon Hayden is his name for anyone that doesn't know yet.

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« Reply #106 on: May 23, 2020, 02:49:01 PM »
The dickhead’s father was on the news last night blaming the government and the nursing home for having the dickhead there.

The dad claimed the son has mental illness, has assaulted people previously, and “if he would have known the sick fuck kid was in that home he would have called and told the people in charge he should be moved.”

The media did not use the dad or dickwad kid’s name in the story.

you dont think a chocolate would accept any blame, do you?

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« Reply #107 on: May 23, 2020, 03:57:22 PM »
Also physically I was way more scared of my fathers spankings than my moms. So I definitely would act out more when he wasn't around even if I knew a spanking was coming. But when she said she was going to tell him, oh man.

today this is know as child abuse.

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« Reply #108 on: May 23, 2020, 05:49:27 PM »
And as for those that do quit or refuse work or get fired with cause will NOT receive benefits. I am fighting tons of these claims right now and won 100% of them with my employees that quit. If they refuse work once we open, they too will no longer receive benefits.

Again, I'm referring to people who got laid off not quit from their jobs and now make much more on unemployment. He told his employer who offered his job back that he already got another job. He's still collecting those unemployment checks. Our State unemployment office is swamped with claims and doesn't have time to enforce this. Hawaii's a very Liberal State and giving away taxpayers money is what they do. It's not coming out of their pockets and it's just extra work for them so its way down the priority list.

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« Reply #109 on: May 23, 2020, 08:26:16 PM »
There's no problem with my scenario. You're making my point which is that government policy has a profound effect on society. A profound effect on human behavior. When you can get money from the State to have kids out of wedlock then you will have more of it. More fatherless boys.

Unemployment was to provide a cushion when you lost your job but because it was less than you would make working it gave you an incentive to look for another job. Now that the government has given a blanket amount of $600/wk  to everybody even if you made only $200/wk at your job you have no incentive to go back to work but a very strong incentive to do nothing. My friend will be called back to his job after next week when we open up. He has no intention of going back but will ride his benefits to the end where he makes more than double working at his crappy job.

Government policy, through a policy of incentives and restraints, affects how people will behave.

Government policy always has an effect on society. Speed limits, taxes, farm subsidies,  covid shut down. These affect behavior. Store hours affect behavior. Gas prices affect behavior. Food supply affects behavior. Lack of government interventions affects behavior.

You were comparing welfare offering better benefits to single mothers to a pandemic that forced a worldwide shut down. Your friend getting an extra unemployment benefit because the GOVERNMENT  shut down his workplace is a temporary reprieve isnt different than what you described. If hes called back to work he cant decline and continue to accept unemployment, Ross would dispute the payments (unless Hawaii has different work rules that im unaware of).

Normally Id agree with you the system is set up for people to become dependent on it,  not to improve their situation. It needs reform.

But helping people out with an extra $600 a week while the company they work for is shut down because of a government order isnt the same as people being on welfare for generations. Unemployment ends, the , $60 0 a week will too.

Obviously there wasnt alot of oversight with these decisions, like someone making triple what they normally would, but if these giant corporations are getting trillions, helping the general public for a limited time isnt wrong.

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« Reply #110 on: May 23, 2020, 08:45:29 PM »
Again, I'm referring to people who got laid off not quit from their jobs and now make much more on unemployment. He told his employer who offered his job back that he already got another job. He's still collecting those unemployment checks. Our State unemployment office is swamped with claims and doesn't have time to enforce this. Hawaii's a very Liberal State and giving away taxpayers money is what they do. It's not coming out of their pockets and it's just extra work for them so its way down the priority list.

That’s pretty shady. A lot of people think unemployment only comes from the state. Fact is unemployment comes from the employer’s reserve account and also the state. If an employee refused work I will contact the EDD right away so they will stop taking out of my reserve and adjust my UI rate.

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« Reply #111 on: May 23, 2020, 09:43:47 PM »
Again, I'm referring to people who got laid off not quit from their jobs and now make much more on unemployment. He told his employer who offered his job back that he already got another job. He's still collecting those unemployment checks. Our State unemployment office is swamped with claims and doesn't have time to enforce this. Hawaii's a very Liberal State and giving away taxpayers money is what they do. It's not coming out of their pockets and it's just extra work for them so its way down the priority list.

I have no recent and almost no experience ever collecting unemployment. but, your post peaked my curiosity, because I was under the impression one only gets a portion of what they were earning from when they were employed. So, since you are referencing unemployment in Hawaii, I looked up how it works there (the program varies from state to state). Here is what I found out:

In Hawaii, "If you are eligible to receive unemployment, your weekly benefit will be your total compensation in the highest-paid quarter of the base period divided by 21. The current maximum benefit amount is $648 per week (in 2020); the current minimum is $5 per week. You may receive benefits for a maximum of 26 weeks."

According to my calculations, if a person earned $3,000 a month in their highest quarter for a total of $9,000 and you divided that by 21 you come out with a weekly payment of approximately $430. or $1,1714 per month which is a little more than half what you were earning before taxes.

Unemployment benefits are fully taxed as income in Hawaii. The Feds also fully tax unemployment benefits as income. It is possible some people don't realize this until they are hit with personal income taxes.

It is certainly possible in the example you gave, that the person may have still had unemployment insurance benefits due them when the started their new job. So for a brief time period they could get both a check from working and one from unemployment, but it wouldn't last more than a week or so. Even though there is a waiting period/processing time with unemployment, once it is approved a person is back paid what they were due from the date of qualification.

I think the person talking to you is either in for a big unpleasant surprise or they were lying to you.

Workers Compensation has some similarities to unemployment insurance which aren't always fully explained to the person collecting it. For example, it too is fully taxable. However, workers comp comes with some extra added wrinkles that do not benefit the employee. I have more experience with worker's comp because I represented fellow employees who were fighting for this benefit.  Many employers and the workers comp representatives will say and do almost anything to cheat the employee out of their rightful benefits. If you ever find yourself in need of workers comp agree to nothing and sign nothing, get an attorney. Your attorney is not allowed to charge you for representation if they lose and if they win their fees are paid by workers compensation insurance companies.



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Re: Young black man films himself beating old white man
« Reply #112 on: May 23, 2020, 10:02:14 PM »
Government policy always has an effect on society. Speed limits, taxes, farm subsidies,  covid shut down. These affect behavior. Store hours affect behavior. Gas prices affect behavior. Food supply affects behavior. Lack of government interventions affects behavior.

You were comparing welfare offering better benefits to single mothers to a pandemic that forced a worldwide shut down. Your friend getting an extra unemployment benefit because the GOVERNMENT  shut down his workplace is a temporary reprieve isnt different than what you described. If hes called back to work he cant decline and continue to accept unemployment, Ross would dispute the payments (unless Hawaii has different work rules that im unaware of).

Normally Id agree with you the system is set up for people to become dependent on it,  not to improve their situation. It needs reform.

But helping people out with an extra $600 a week while the company they work for is shut down because of a government order isnt the same as people being on welfare for generations. Unemployment ends, the , $60 0 a week will too.

Obviously there wasnt alot of oversight with these decisions, like someone making triple what they normally would, but if these giant corporations are getting trillions, helping the general public for a limited time isnt wrong.

My friend, please, you are making an argument that has nothing to do with my original point. I'll say it again, my point was, and this was in regard to someone saying that I was blaming the government for broken families, specifically fathers no longer feeling responsible for the child they produced, was that government policy has a profound effect on the behavior of people and its effects on society -- that's all. I haven't taken any position as to which policies were good and which were bad. As with all things it's a mixed bag.

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« Reply #113 on: May 23, 2020, 10:06:50 PM »
I have no recent and almost no experience ever collecting unemployment. but, your post peaked my curiosity, because I was under the impression one only gets a portion of what they were earning from when they were employed. So, since you are referencing unemployment in Hawaii, I looked up how it works there (the program varies from state to state). Here is what I found out:

In Hawaii, "If you are eligible to receive unemployment, your weekly benefit will be your total compensation in the highest-paid quarter of the base period divided by 21. The current maximum benefit amount is $648 per week (in 2020); the current minimum is $5 per week. You may receive benefits for a maximum of 26 weeks."

According to my calculations, if a person earned $3,000 a month in their highest quarter for a total of $9,000 and you divided that by 21 you come out with a weekly payment of approximately $430. or $1,1714 per month which is a little more than half what you were earning before taxes.

Unemployment benefits are fully taxed as income in Hawaii. The Feds also fully tax unemployment benefits as income. It is possible some people don't realize this until they are hit with personal income taxes.

It is certainly possible in the example you gave, that the person may have still had unemployment insurance benefits due them when the started their new job. So for a brief time period they could get both a check from working and one from unemployment, but it wouldn't last more than a week or so. Even though there is a waiting period/processing time with unemployment, once it is approved a person is back paid what they were due from the date of qualification.

I think the person talking to you is either in for a big unpleasant surprise or they were lying to you.


If any employee of mine told me he got another job while collecting unemployment from my corporate reserve account, I’d have that liar broke and jobless ASAP.
I can’t stand lazy people that milk free money.

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« Reply #114 on: May 23, 2020, 10:09:31 PM »
I have no recent and almost no experience ever collecting unemployment. but, your post peaked my curiosity, because I was under the impression one only gets a portion of what they were earning from when they were employed. So, since you are referencing unemployment in Hawaii, I looked up how it works there (the program varies from state to state). Here is what I found out:

In Hawaii, "If you are eligible to receive unemployment, your weekly benefit will be your total compensation in the highest-paid quarter of the base period divided by 21. The current maximum benefit amount is $648 per week (in 2020); the current minimum is $5 per week. You may receive benefits for a maximum of 26 weeks."

According to my calculations, if a person earned $3,000 a month in their highest quarter for a total of $9,000 and you divided that by 21 you come out with a weekly payment of approximately $430. or $1,1714 per month which is a little more than half what you were earning before taxes.

Unemployment benefits are fully taxed as income in Hawaii. The Feds also fully tax unemployment benefits as income. It is possible some people don't realize this until they are hit with personal income taxes.

It is certainly possible in the example you gave, that the person may have still had unemployment insurance benefits due them when the started their new job. So for a brief time period they could get both a check from working and one from unemployment, but it wouldn't last more than a week or so. Even though there is a waiting period/processing time with unemployment, once it is approved a person is back paid what they were due from the date of qualification.

I think the person talking to you is either in for a big unpleasant surprise or they were lying to you.

Workers Compensation has some similarities to unemployment insurance which aren't always fully explained to the person collecting it. For example, it too is fully taxable. However, workers comp comes with some extra added wrinkles that do not benefit the employee. I have more experience with worker's comp because I represented fellow employees who were fighting for this benefit.  Many employers and the workers comp representatives will say and do almost anything to cheat the employee out of their rightful benefits. If you ever find yourself in need of workers comp agree to nothing and sign nothing, get an attorney. Your attorney is not allowed to charge you for representation if they lose and if they win their fees are paid by workers compensation insurance companies.

I don't know how much clearer I can make it and made it very specific. He made about $360/wk working full time. When he got laid off the State unemployment agency paid him something like $285/wk (I don't remember the exact amount). That is where it would have stood if it wasn't for the coronavirus. Due to the pandemic every person who got laid off, whether part-time or full time, whether you made two grand a week or two hundred a week, during the pandemic was further subsidized by the Federal government with an additional $600/wk. So being on unemployment he went from $360/wk working a shitty job full time to making $885/wk doing nothing.

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Re: Young black man films himself beating old white man
« Reply #115 on: May 23, 2020, 10:17:42 PM »
If any employee of mine told me he got another job while collecting unemployment from my corporate reserve account, I’d have that liar broke and jobless ASAP.
I can’t stand lazy people that milk free money.

How would you know?

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« Reply #116 on: May 23, 2020, 10:23:13 PM »
I don't know how much clearer I can make it and made it very specific. He made about $360/wk working full time. When he got laid off the State unemployment agency paid him something like $285/wk (I don't remember the exact amount). That where it would have stood if it wasn't for the coronavirus. Due to the pandemic every person who got laid off, whether part-time or full time, whether you made two grand a week or two hundred a week, during the pandemic was further subsidized by the Federal government with an additional $600/wk. So being on unemployment he went from $360/wk working a shitty job full time to making $885/wk doing nothing.

If his old boss wanted, he/she could give the UI office a heads-up and your buddy will have to pay back the money plus interest and penalties.
I know they are swamped right now, but after things slow down these broke left wing states will be looking for any insurance fraud.
(I’m assuming he turned down work after the business reopened)

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« Reply #117 on: May 23, 2020, 10:37:06 PM »
How would you know?

The second after an employee turns down work I have them write me a quit notice and I send it to the EDD. At that point they can not collect any benefits. It’s that simple. I’ve had employees try to fight it, but they will lose every time if they write and sign a quit notice.

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« Reply #118 on: May 23, 2020, 11:18:45 PM »
The second after an employee turns down work I have them write me a quit notice and I send it to the EDD. At that point they can not collect any benefits. It’s that simple. I’ve had employees try to fight it, but they will lose every time if they write and sign a quit notice.

I'm no expert but how does that work? His former employer that laid him off called him and told him that if he wants to come back to work he's welcome. He tells him no and that he has found something else. Then what? You tell him to come in to write a "quit" notice. He's says, "Yeah sure, I'll drive down there after you fired me and sign a quit notice." Quit from what? He got laid off due to the business being slow and there was no work for him. He didn't quit. He wasn't furloughed. He was laid off.

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« Reply #119 on: May 23, 2020, 11:25:00 PM »
If his old boss wanted, he/she could give the UI office a heads-up and your buddy will have to pay back the money plus interest and penalties.
I know they are swamped right now, but after things slow down these broke left wing states will be looking for any insurance fraud.
(I’m assuming he turned down work after the business reopened)

That's never going to happen. You have way too much confidence in government workers. The amount of welfare/food stamp fraud alone is staggering. Twenty years ago I once reported one of my bum roommate for milking his disability insurance. He went surfing, to the gym, practiced martial arts and they just took a report but didn't do shit. There's no incentive for them to give a shit. It's just more work for them and it isn't coming out of their pockets. Waste and fraud is synonymous with government.

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Re: Young black man films himself beating old white man
« Reply #120 on: May 23, 2020, 11:39:45 PM »
My friend, please, you are making an argument that has nothing to do with my original point. I'll say it again, my point was, and this was in regard to someone saying that I was blaming the government for broken families, specifically fathers no longer feeling responsible for the child they produced, was that government policy has a profound effect on the behavior of people and its effects on society -- that's all. I haven't taken any position as to which policies were good and which were bad. As with all things it's a mixed bag.

Fair enough.

I was caught up on your understanding of the unemployment, ARMZ is doing a good job of explaining the process. Undoubtedly people do take advantage of the system, get away with it  and it drives me nuts.

Have a good night Pellius.

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Re: Young black man films himself beating old white man
« Reply #121 on: May 24, 2020, 08:10:44 AM »
I'm no expert but how does that work? His former employer that laid him off called him and told him that if he wants to come back to work he's welcome. He tells him no and that he has found something else. Then what? You tell him to come in to write a "quit" notice. He's says, "Yeah sure, I'll drive down there after you fired me and sign a quit notice." Quit from what? He got laid off due to the business being slow and there was no work for him. He didn't quit. He wasn't furloughed. He was laid off.
If the employee has found something else then he has to notify unemployment himself.
And the employee doesn't have to sign a letter of resignation. The employer can notify unemployment that the employee refused to return to his job, then unemployment will take action.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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« Reply #122 on: May 24, 2020, 12:03:36 PM »
Don’t mean to be off topic, so I’ll end with some info that might be helpful.
When an employee files for unemployment, every employer they’ve worked for in the past 18 months is notified by mail. I’m looking at a stack of UI claims as I type this.
This notice has EVERYTHING on it including the weekly amount (to the penny) they will receive each week and the percentage of benefits chargeable to the employers reserve account.
The employer has 10 days to respond to the claim with documents and reason for separation.
If the employer doesn’t respond, this may result in an increase employment tax rate and employer penalties.
Most people don’t know this, but even your employers from the jobs you worked for the past 18 months will pay for your unemployment (if you were on their payroll) so they will respond to back to the claim.
I could go deeper in this subject, but i think you get the idea.


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Re: Young black man films himself beating old white man
« Reply #123 on: May 24, 2020, 06:03:29 PM »
Another different nursing home???? tweeted by actor James Woods. No Youtube video to embed yet and.....

No idea what this is yet.


https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1264684927133474816


A whole staff of orderlies whipping old folk????? Watch whole video.



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« Reply #124 on: May 24, 2020, 06:26:47 PM »
Young mudshark films young mulatto man beating young black man

https://mobile.twitter.com/ryandior/status/1264644316884058113