Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMilia

[onlyme]

Kevin I now know why all the hostility towards Wayne you have.  I am sorry. 

[kmhphoto]

Kevin I now know why all the hostility towards Wayne you have.  I am sorry. 

I don't have any hostility to Wayne. I'm just pointing out some discrepencies to things that are being said on his behalf.

The only hostile one here is you. You can hardly post without spitting out your hate towards the IFBB, Jim Manion, Weider etc. etc.

I love your new T-Shirt. That just about sums up the old PDI. You know, the one you said didn't exist!

[FreshMintBlue]

Well - you know what; people just keep saying that the PDI is doomed for failure?

he comes over so childish, I don't think an Interviewe should be biast at all, after all he is doing the Interview on our behalf the readers.
And in any case, what answer did he thought De'Millia would give him? Yes Ron the PDI is doomed from the start, I just don't know what do do with my money? geeeee. 

But again, there is no validity of the Pro Division?

He askes that question at least 2 times what is pretty pathatic

Well, sponsors, magazine support ---

Same here has been asked before...

I don't really care about the IFBB or the PDI one way or the other, I'm a moderate fan of bodybuilding who is working out for quit a while now but just a year ago got interested in the Pro Bodybuilding thingy.
That said I'm not biast at all, but Ron sonds like a real dickhead in the interview.

[LuciusFox]

he comes over so childish, I don't think an Interviewe should be biast at all, after all he is doing the Interview on our behalf the readers.
And in any case, what answer did he thought De'Millia would give him? Yes Ron the PDI is doomed from the start, I just don't know what do do with my money? geeeee. 
He askes that question at least 2 times what is pretty pathatic
Same here has been asked before...

I don't really care about the IFBB or the PDI one way or the other, I'm a moderate fan of bodybuilding who is working out for quit a while now but just a year ago got interested in the Pro Bodybuilding thingy.
That said I'm not biast at all, but Ron sonds like a real dickhead in the interview.

 Hi, Wayne!

[kmhphoto]

Hi, Wayne!

 

[onlyme]

I don't have any hostility to Wayne. I'm just pointing out some discrepencies to things that are being said on his behalf.

The only hostile one here is you. You can hardly post without spitting out your hate towards the IFBB, Jim Manion, Weider etc. etc.

I love your new T-Shirt. That just about sums up the old PDI. You know, the one you said didn't exist!

Hostile, I just put down my personal hands-on experince with all of them.  And it seems that I am far from being alone in my feelings.  I don't think my hostility towards any of these in unwarranted.  The problem is that you will not let go of the past.  Even when you can see Wayne was only a small part of it.  Now Wayne is trying to make things better yet all you do is constantly say it won't work.  Everythign is in timing and Wayne obviously didn't thnk the timing was rigth back then.  Well it is now after the IFBB, AMI and Manion have fucked up every Olympia since Wayne left.  Itis perfect timing now.

[kmhphoto]

Hostile, I just put down my personal hands-on experince with all of them.  And it seems that I am far from being alone in my feelings.  I don't think my hostility towards any of these in unwarranted.  The problem is that you will not let go of the past.  Even when you can see Wayne was only a small part of it.  Now Wayne is trying to make things better yet all you do is constantly say it won't work.  Everythign is in timing and Wayne obviously didn't thnk the timing was rigth back then.  Well it is now after the IFBB, AMI and Manion have fucked up every Olympia since Wayne left.  Itis perfect timing now.

Do you now concede that your were wrong about Wayne lainching the PDI in 2004?
Isn't it you who will not let go of the past in your constant attacks on people?
What's this about Wayne not thinking the timing was right back then? He tried and failed. He didn't walk away, he was told to go and got no support from anyone for his PDI. The decision was made for him!
That's why I've asked what has changed, where has the support come from?

What didn't you like about the Olympia? Were you there?

[DR. NO]

"Ron's tough interview with Wayne DeMelia"   -- give me a break!!

How about "Ron's hostile peevish interview with Wayne DeMelia" 

The tone of his questions was not fact-finding (like a journalist) ... he was simply badgering the witness (Wayne).

Wayne DeMelia is starting a new bodybuilding league.  He is a smart businessman.  That's the news.

Why the hostility?  What is Ron from Get Big so afraid of?  Ask the questions, get the answers and we'll see what happens.

Why is everyone so bugged out about the PDI ?? 

Ron , your interview was biased and unprofessional.  You kept telling Wayne to "go away" , essentially.

[Picsman]

WRONG!!!!!!
The information provided at the bottom of the letter shows Pro Division INC and was nothing to do with the IFBB Pro Division.
The 2004 NOC was held on the 22nd May - Wayne was not a part of the IFBB at that time as he'd been fired!
http://www.ifbb.com/ifbbpro/2004news/announcement2.htm

So when he turned up in Hungary 2 weeks after the NOC, he was not there as an official of the IFBB, he was hoping to gain support for his PDI. He didn't get it.

So despite your denials, the PDI is not new. We've been there before and got the T-Shirt!

No disrespect...and as I clearly have no clue what the time line actually was...as point of fact however...the letter posted here clearly has the email address as ifbbpd@yahoo.com at the bottom....that would lead most to believe either the break had not yet transpired...or someone has the timeline a little off....

[LifterChick]

Do you now concede that your were wrong about Wayne lainching the PDI in 2004?
Isn't it you who will not let go of the past in your constant attacks on people?
What's this about Wayne not thinking the timing was right back then? He tried and failed. He didn't walk away, he was told to go and got no support from anyone for his PDI. The decision was made for him!
That's why I've asked what has changed, where has the support come from?

What didn't you like about the Olympia? Were you there?

Kev, why do you care what Kieth thinks?  Obviously Ben and/or Joe raped his dog and he can't forgive him for that.  Face it, Keith is very passionate in his beliefs and let him have that.  You two (and Keith and I) will never agree, so who cares.  Bottom line the Whether the PDI succeeds or fails iy WILL help the athletes even if they don't manage to get one show off the ground.  The IFBB is listening now, and maybe that is Keith's entire point.  Amazing perspectives can be gathered on a 3 day (and ongoing) drunk.

[LuciusFox]

 I hope Ron wouldn't ever talk to Bob like that

[Ron]

How about "Ron's hostile peevish interview with Wayne DeMelia"   The tone of his questions was not fact-finding (like a journalist) ... he was simply badgering the witness (Wayne).  Wayne DeMelia is starting a new bodybuilding league.  He is a smart businessman.  That's the news. Why the hostility?  What is Ron from Get Big so afraid of?  Ask the questions, get the answers and we'll see what happens. Why is everyone so bugged out about the PDI ??   Ron , your interview was biased and unprofessional.  You kept telling Wayne to "go away" , essentially.

What did you think that was - a documentary. Fact finding? What I am afraid off? Nothing. Me hostile? Are you off based or what? Bugged out about the PDI? No. My interview with Wayne was exactly what I wanted to ask - the questions were tough, and what people have been saying. I wanted answers. Like everyone else did. Wayne is going to do what Wayne wants to do - I have no authority to tell Wayne to go away. But since he told me to ask any question I wanted - I certainly did.

Now, again, if you have any other 'powder baked sugar cookies' questions to ask him, feel free to put them here. Or give me some other good questions that i didnt ask already. When I am done with some of the projects I have, I will see if I can ask him any questions you want.

But, go ahead, complain that it was biased, but offer no questions that I should ask...

I hope Ron wouldn't ever talk to Bob like that

Oh yes, if Bob or anyone else started an organization, I would ask the same questions if I didnt get the answers I wanted. And Bob and I disagree on a number of things, but it is called discussion.

[Adam Empire]

Do you now concede that your were wrong about Wayne lainching the PDI in 2004?
Isn't it you who will not let go of the past in your constant attacks on people?
What's this about Wayne not thinking the timing was right back then? He tried and failed. He didn't walk away, he was told to go and got no support from anyone for his PDI. The decision was made for him!
That's why I've asked what has changed, where has the support come from?

What didn't you like about the Olympia? Were you there?

What I find funny is that Horton seems to only post in two situations:

1) "Here are the photos from the ___________ Show"

2) In any thread that he has the opportunity to bash PDI.


He so rarely posts in other threads, it's easy to notice the trend/agenda...  They start way back with a camera bet with Insider Z that never took place...

[Adam Empire]

I'd rather save that energy for any future dealings with 240. At least he's intelligent.

Proof that Horton is nutz.

[kmhphoto]

No disrespect...and as I clearly have no clue what the time line actually was...as point of fact however...the letter posted here clearly has the email address as ifbbpd@yahoo.com at the bottom....that would lead most to believe either the break had not yet transpired...or someone has the timeline a little off....

Wayne had been using that e-mail address for quite some time so he obviously wanted to continue using it. The letter does have Pro Division INC, clearly diplayed at the top and bottom but "Onlyme" insisted that this was part of the IFBB and kept bleating on about a transcript which proved his point.

"I have no idea about the Hungary thing that is why I didn't mention anything about it.  That is the difference between you and me.  I generally won't say anything about something unless I know about it.  Post up the transcipt I am talking about and look at the roll call.  Everyone has Pro Division in front of their name and title.  "

Case closed.

[kmhphoto]

He so rarely posts in other threads, it's easy to notice the trend/agenda...  They start way back with a camera bet with Insider Z that never took place...

Trend, yes
Agenda, No.

I post - not bash - about the PDI because it interests me, just as you post on everything else.

[kmhphoto]

Kev, why do you care what Kieth thinks?  Obviously Ben and/or Joe raped his dog and he can't forgive him for that.  Face it, Keith is very passionate in his beliefs and let him have that.  You two (and Keith and I) will never agree, so who cares.  Bottom line the Whether the PDI succeeds or fails iy WILL help the athletes even if they don't manage to get one show off the ground.  The IFBB is listening now, and maybe that is Keith's entire point.  Amazing perspectives can be gathered on a 3 day (and ongoing) drunk.

I'm past caring about what Keith thinks becaiuse he's the most outrageous bigot I've ever heard.
I can respect a different opinion as to the survivability of the PDI but when I voiced mine, Keith's response was to wish me an early death!
Enjoy the Drunking