I bet half of you didn't even lift today

[bhank]

Hanky....I have always admitted my legs were my weakest point but comparing them to yours make no sense at all....I weighed 154 at 5'8" where as you weighed over 195 pounds at your so called 5'11" ....think about it and do the math.....of course your legs are "ripped" their smaller than your arms.

HAVE YOU CALCULATED UP THE ARITHMETIC YET MR. MENSA ? "D

So called lol my next show I might enter the classic division you know where they actually measure your height or I may just go heavy depends how things develop

And you can't compare your legs to mine because you are only 154lbs vs me at 220lbs despite only being 3 inches shorter?  Yeah that has been my point the entire time it's no comparision you are half my size. And smaller than my arms again my legs are absolutely bigger than yours and more cut up not just more cutup yours should be shredded at 154lbs. You can't claim you beat everyone bigger than you then claim it makes no sense to compare our legs because I am bigger than you.

[bhank]

The important thing to grasp, we are all different.   One of my training partners used to be a lanky B-Ball type guy.   We was strong as F and always frustrated that I was getting jacked so fast while he was not.  Yeah, when you are not 6 3" skinny guy you are not going to grow same as 5 8" guy doing the same shit.   He wanted to keep playing B Ball and all that running - he could never get more mass on his frame.  Similarly - for me losing fat was a hard endeavor and always a struggle. 

So you have to experiment with different rep ranges, programs, etc.   When you find out what works go for it.

Exactly people don't get this you are secretly a fat kid still working off the weight that wants to come and I am still a skinny kid still trying to eat and keep the weight that wants to go. That is why we are at the same spot doing opposite styles of training.

Shizzo would benefit more from your style of training more cardio fast paced volume clean food. Wes would benefit more from mine lower volume less cardio more food more rest days. Endo vs Ecto style training

[Grape Ape]

The important thing to grasp, we are all different.   One of my training partners used to be a lanky B-Ball type guy.   We was strong as F and always frustrated that I was getting jacked so fast while he was not.  Yeah, when you are not 6 3" skinny guy you are not going to grow same as 5 8" guy doing the same shit.   He wanted to keep playing B Ball and all that running - he could never get more mass on his frame.  Similarly - for me losing fat was a hard endeavor and always a struggle. 

So you have to experiment with different rep ranges, programs, etc.   When you find out what works go for it.

Guy I trained with in HS, we did all the same stuff.....I was stronger....he looked like a mini bodybuilder and I looked like....well not that.

[bhank]

Then again a walk around the block would benefit Shizzo lets not get carried away

[wes]

So called lol my next show I might enter the classic division you know where they actually measure your height or I may just go heavy depends how things develop

And you can't compare your legs to mine because you are only 154lbs vs me at 220lbs despite only being 3 inches shorter?  Yeah that has been my point the entire time it's no comparision you are half my size. And smaller than my arms again my legs are absolutely bigger than yours and more cut up not just more cutup yours should be shredded at 154lbs. You can't claim you beat everyone bigger than you then claim it makes no sense to compare our legs because I am bigger than you.

I bet my legs are jut as big as yours ....take your height into consideration stupid.... and whatever I say here is always the truth unless said in jest....I beat plenty of guys both bigger,better, and heavier than you.

[Hulkotron]

Studies have shown that for hypertrophy (not talking strength here), volume = (sets) x (reps) x (weight) is the most important variable.  This is basically accepted as fact in the S&C world.  Maybe Coach and well-read trainers like SF1900 and Foozle will back me up here. 

So the weight/reps/sets scheme you use does indeed matter if hypertrophy is the goal because the reps you can do drops off precipitously with increasing weight.

For example I could do 10x10x150 lbs on bench, this is 15,000 lbs of "volume" but I sure as shit couldn't do 10x5x300 to match that volume, I couldn't even do one rep with that weight, and nobody can do 10x1x1500. 

[joswift]

Studies have shown that for hypertrophy (not talking strength here), volume = (sets) x (reps) x (weight) is the most important variable.  This is basically accepted as fact in the S&C world.  Maybe Coach and well-read trainers like SF1900 and Foozle will back me up here. 

So the weight/reps/sets scheme you use does indeed matter if hypertrophy is the goal because the reps you can do drops off precipitously with increasing weight.

For example I could do 10x10x150 lbs on bench, this is 15,000 lbs of "volume" but I sure as shit couldn't do 10x5x300 to match that volume, I couldn't even do one rep with that weight, and nobody can do 100x1x1500.

[wes]

Hanky let see if you can follow this analogy which I have posted on here before a few times for guys with thick skulls much like yourself.

Lets just imagine that hypothetically we are both of completely equal strength and power and we both did the exact same workout using the exact same exercises and same exact poundages....we both start training at precisely 5 AM and I have finished my workout at 5:45 AM and you finished up the exact same routine to a tee at 7:45 AM.....this means that though we did exactly the very same thing down to the last rep of the last set I trained much harder than you did because I completed my workout with the same poundages much sooner than you did.....this is what I call "intensity of effort"....getting the most work done in the shortest possible amount of time.

Dont get it   I know you`ll have some dumb answer which will be outright wrong.

You probably made a few phone calls and texts and watched a bit of TV between sets during your workout where I kept moving and stayed on point..... but we know you`re not hungry just looking for attention and are extremely jealous of myself and many others here.....get real and just be a regular guy....I mean IRL can you possibly be as big an asshole as you come across as on here?

[Krankenstein]

Show me any evidence you actually train first

You think I haven't read about about ideal rep ranges and rest between sets and where your body is drawing energy from based on time of rest and all that crap? I am telling you from 25 years of lifting it's the same damn fucking thing. If I do 10 sets of 10 or 5 sets of 20 I get the same fucking results. I did 100 fucking reps you can argue about all bullshit scientific studies fast slow twitch aerobic anaerobic crap you read all you want about ideal rep ranges and rest between sets. I am telling you your body is absolutely going to respond the same to each stimuli. 100 reps trains the muscle

Why do you need evidence?  Did you want to add it to your spank bank material?

Sure you get the same results.  Do me a favor...do 10 x 1 (10 sets of 1 rep) with 90% of your 1rm and then do 1x10 (1 set of 10) with 50% of your 1rm.   Your body will NOT respond the same way.  Now, if you want argue semantics...I am here alllll day.

Using the above example, say for squats.

Your 10x1 @ 225 vs 1x10 at 135.  Think you will see growth?

[wes]

Back/Lats:

Barbell Rowing - 5 X 20,15,12,12,10  Added weight each set and rested briefly between sets as usual....took a bit longer due to having to change the weight on each set

Dumbell Pullovers - 5 X 25,12,12,12,12,

Gonna`set up a heavy duty chinning bar this weekend though I have no idea if I can even do one chinup it`s been so long 

[bhank]

Studies have shown that for hypertrophy (not talking strength here), volume = (sets) x (reps) x (weight) is the most important variable.  This is basically accepted as fact in the S&C world.  Maybe Coach and well-read trainers like SF1900 and Foozle will back me up here. 

So the weight/reps/sets scheme you use does indeed matter if hypertrophy is the goal because the reps you can do drops off precipitously with increasing weight.

For example I could do 10x10x150 lbs on bench, this is 15,000 lbs of "volume" but I sure as shit couldn't do 10x5x300 to match that volume, I couldn't even do one rep with that weight, and nobody can do 10x1x1500.

BWAHAHA Shut the fuck up studies have shown yeah I also read my owners manual can you drive the fucking car do you know how it is actually going to respond from exp or studies

[bhank]

Why do you need evidence?  Did you want to add it to your spank bank material?

Sure you get the same results.  Do me a favor...do 10 x 1 (10 sets of 1 rep) with 90% of your 1rm and then do 1x10 (1 set of 10) with 50% of your 1rm.   Your body will NOT respond the same way.  Now, if you want argue semantics...I am here alllll day.

Using the above example, say for squats.

Your 10x1 @ 225 vs 1x10 at 135.  Think you will see growth?

As soon as someone starts talking percentages and 1rm I know they are a fucking noob. If 10X1 @ 225 is a challenge you will see growth if 1X10 at 135 is a challenge you will see growth

[Krankenstein]

Exactly people don't get this you are secretly a fat kid still working off the weight that wants to come and I am still a skinny kid still trying to eat and keep the weight that wants to go. That is why we are at the same spot doing opposite styles of training.

Shizzo would benefit more from your style of training more cardio fast paced volume clean food. Wes would benefit more from mine lower volume less cardio more food more rest days. Endo vs Ecto style training

Did you seriously compare yourself to him?   Wow.....

You are contradicting yourself.  The percentage of Type 1 and type II fiber types of muscles will vary from person to person.  You can change the ratio but that appears to be only about a 10% change.  You do realize there is absolute scientific evidence in the cross dimensional size of all the fiber types?

On second thought....you know all Brian.  You know more than anyone.  You are the greatest person to ever grace the planet.  We all need to sit back and do what you do.  Please tell me when I may buy your book on training and diet.

[Krankenstein]

BWAHAHA Shut the fuck up studies have shown yeah I also read my owners manual can you drive the fucking car do you know how it is actually going to respond from exp or studies

Owners manual doesn't tell you how to drive.  Piss poor analogy.  You fail.  Over and over and over and over.

[bhank]

Hanky let see if you can follow this analogy which I have posted on here before a few times for guys with thick skulls much like yourself.

Lets just imagine that hypothetically we are both of completely equal strength and power and we both did the exact same workout using the exact same exercises and same exact poundages....we both start training at precisely 5 AM and I have finished my workout at 5:45 AM and you finished up the exact same routine to a tee at 7:45 AM.....this means that though we did exactly the very same thing down to the last rep of the last set I trained much harder than you did because I completed my workout with the same poundages much sooner than you did.....this is what I call "intensity of effort"....getting the most work done in the shortest possible amount of time.

Dont get it   I know you`ll have some dumb answer which will be outright wrong.

You probably made a few phone calls and texts and watched a bit of TV between sets during your workout where I kept moving and stayed on point..... but we know you`re not hungry just looking for attention and are extremely jealous of myself and many others here.....get real and just be a regular guy....I mean IRL can you possibly be as big an asshole as you come across as on here?

You are outright wrong I mean I don't like talking studies but they show more rest between sets is better moving weight faster doesn't make it harder contracting your muscle harder makes it harder time under tension makes it harder focus makes it harder isolation makes it harder mind muscle connection makes it harder weights are just tools you focus creates intensity of effort not your speed

[bhank]

Studies have shown that for hypertrophy (not talking strength here), volume = (sets) x (reps) x (weight) is the most important variable.  This is basically accepted as fact in the S&C world.  Maybe Coach and well-read trainers like SF1900 and Foozle will back me up here. 

So the weight/reps/sets scheme you use does indeed matter if hypertrophy is the goal because the reps you can do drops off precipitously with increasing weight.

For example I could do 10x10x150 lbs on bench, this is 15,000 lbs of "volume" but I sure as shit couldn't do 10x5x300 to match that volume, I couldn't even do one rep with that weight, and nobody can do 10x1x1500.

You kind of suck at Math look at your formula Sets X Reps is the same fucking thing as total fucking Reps. According to the formula you are posting if given Total reps you wouldnt even need total sets to solve for volume. Your formula supports my argument

[IroNat]

Did you seriously compare yourself to him?   Wow.....

You are contradicting yourself.  The percentage of Type 1 and type II fiber types of muscles will vary from person to person.  You can change the ratio but that appears to be only about a 10% change.  You do realize there is absolute scientific evidence in the cross dimensional size of all the fiber types?

On second thought....you know all Brian.  You know more than anyone.  You are the greatest person to ever grace the planet.  We all need to sit back and do what you do.  Please tell me when I may buy your book on training and diet.

This.  Bhanky is Wolverine.

[bhank]

Owners manual doesn't tell you how to drive.  Piss poor analogy.  You fail.  Over and over and over and over.

Kind of my point you read something and think you know something that is not how it works with training

[Walter Sobchak]

No use talking sets and reps if you aren’t going to include intensity of effort.

I use a lot less effort to squat 405 than the wifebeater Brian Hankins does.

[bhank]

Back/Lats:

Barbell Rowing - 5 X 20,15,12,12,10  Added weight each set and rested briefly between sets as usual....took a bit longer due to having to change the weight on each set

Dumbell Pullovers - 5 X 25,12,12,12,12,

Gonna`set up a heavy duty chinning bar this weekend though I have no idea if I can even do one chinup it`s been so long 

You probably have leeches in your medicine cabinet there is a reason no one does these

[Krankenstein]

As soon as someone starts talking percentages and 1rm I know they are a fucking noob. If 10X1 @ 225 is a challenge you will see growth if 1X10 at 135 is a challenge you will see growth

HA HA noob?

Sure, you'll see growth.  You said it makes no difference.  You are wrong...yet again

[Krankenstein]

Kind of my point you read something and think you know something that is not how it works with training

You made no point.  You threw something out to sound funny/smart.

Why don't you squat 45lb x 10 times.  Thats the same as squatting 450lb x 1 according to you. 

[bhank]

You made no point.  You threw something out to sound funny/smart.

Why don't you squat 45lb x 10 times.  Thats the same as squatting 450lb x 1 according to you.

Again you suck at reading as I have never said that. I would absolutely argue a max effort for 10 reps or a max effort for 1 rep will both give you gains. I also made the argument that if lifting the same weight 5 sets of 20 or 10 sets of 10 or 8 sets of 12 or whatever fucking arbitrary number you stop and rest at for however fucking long whether you beat your dick or smoke a cigarette while resting does not fucking matter if you do 100 reps with 100 pounds your gains are going to be the same any way you split it up.

[Gym-Rat]

No use talking sets and reps if you aren’t going to include intensity of effort.

I use a lot less effort to squat 405 than the wifebeater Brian Hankins does.

this^^

sets/reps (and arguing over them) is sort of pointless.

I can put more into a 3-rep set than some of the gym-clowns running around doing jerky/momentum sets of 20.

[robcguns]

Shoulders giant sets

10 sets of laterals, front raise and rear delts so 30 sets.

10 sets of ab coaster done correctly that thing is awesome.

5 mile walk so far will do another 5 tonight.