I bet half of you didn't even lift today

[Hulkotron]

You kind of suck at Math look at your formula Sets X Reps is the same fucking thing as total fucking Reps. According to the formula you are posting if given Total reps you wouldnt even need total sets to solve for volume. Your formula supports my argument

I think you need to go back and read my post again to understand the point, or maybe have a more literate friend read and summarize it.

No one uses or cares about "total reps" except those articles in magazines like Shape and Men's Health.

[wes]

You are outright wrong I mean I don't like talking studies but they show more rest between sets is better moving weight faster doesn't make it harder contracting your muscle harder makes it harder time under tension makes it harder focus makes it harder isolation makes it harder mind muscle connection makes it harder weights are just tools you focus creates intensity of effort not your speed

I knew you wouldn`t get it or are just playing dumb cuz you know I`m correct.

I`m not doing super fast reps, I am resting less between sets which makes a workout much more intense.....I still go as heavy as I can using good form by no means am I going light just because of the shorter rest periods between sets.....if I rested longer I know I could use more weight but the muscles can`t read the number on the plates they only know intensity and TUT.

[wes]

You probably have leeches in your medicine cabinet there is a reason no one does these

Great exercise plus I train at home with no machines.

Yeah I`m old school....trained in the same gyms as Jeff King, Joe Gomes, Richard Roy, Chris Aceto, Arthur Prince ,Pat Hayes, Rick Sampon, Dave Mastorakis, and a slew of other fucking beasts.....all guys that have competed nationally and internationally against legends and a lot of them did DB Pullovers and they trained fast and heavy.

If you never heard of these guys look them up and be impressed.

if you trained like a wuss in our gym like you do, you got laughed out of the gym and were considered just deadwood....you`d be classified a a guy we needed there to pay dues to help keep the gym open so we could train our asses off while you read the newspaper between sets.

[bhank]

I am all for this i could use some assitance

[wes]

Again you suck at reading as I have never said that. I would absolutely argue a max effort for 10 reps or a max effort for 1 rep will both give you gains. I also made the argument that if lifting the same weight 5 sets of 20 or 10 sets of 10 or 8 sets of 12 or whatever fucking arbitrary number you stop and rest at for however fucking long whether you beat your dick or smoke a cigarette while resting does not fucking matter if you do 100 reps with 100 pounds your gains are going to be the same any way you split it up.

Ten reps will build more muscle than one rep due to increased time under tension.

Single reps are for power like doing one rep of a squat with 405 pounds....something you will never know anything about.

[wes]

I have no orobken letting the girls at the front desk coean uo my weights they beed the exercise if you cant use my weight putting it away will strengthen you

If a girl could put my weights away....I would admit that I was training like a fag......will you admit it Hanky? 

[bhank]

Ten reps will build more muscle than one rep due to increased time under tension.

Single reps are for power like doing one rep of a squat with 405 pounds....something you will never know anything about.

not necessarily we havent talked about cadence yet if you want to talk time under tension you have to talk cadence

[wes]

I think you need to go back and read my post again to understand the point, or maybe have a more literate friend read and summarize it.

No one uses or cares about "total reps" except those articles in magazines like Shape and Men's Health.

Exactly....guys a loon and says stuff like  "for chest today I did 555 reps"......GEEZUS.

[wes]

not necessarily we havent talked about cadence yet if you want to talk time under tension you have to talk cadence

I am always in full control of both the negative and the positive portion of a rep and I contract the targeted muscle area I`m training and I also stretch it using a  full range of motion unless trying to achieve another aim....no I dont count to 5 pulling it up then 5 back putting it back down....I`d be using wussy weight like you do.

You brought up cadence as you were assuming I did fast reps,......I rest less, I do not do fast reps with momentum.

How long do you think I`ve been doing this?

[JackTheRipper]

I am always in full control of both the negative and the positive portion of a rep and I contract the targeted muscle area I`m training and I also stretch it using a  full range of motion unless trying to achieve another aim....no I dont count to 5 pulling it up then 5 back putting it back down....I`d be using wussy weight like you do.

You brought up cadence as you were assuming I did fast reps,......I rest less, I do not do fast reps with momentum.

How long do you think I`ve been doing this?

Can you post up some training videos Wes? showing us the perfect form.

[bhank]

I am always in full control of both the negative and the positive portion of a rep and I contract the targeted muscle area I`m training and I also stretch it using a  full range of motion unless trying to achieve another aim....no I dont count to 5 pulling it up then 5 back putting it back down....I`d be using wussy weight like you do.

You brought up cadence as you were assuming I did fast reps,......I rest less, I do not do fast reps with momentum.

How long do you think I`ve been doing this?

Doing shit wrong a long time doesnt make you an expert

[Krankenstein]

Again you suck at reading as I have never said that. I would absolutely argue a max effort for 10 reps or a max effort for 1 rep will both give you gains. I also made the argument that if lifting the same weight 5 sets of 20 or 10 sets of 10 or 8 sets of 12 or whatever fucking arbitrary number you stop and rest at for however fucking long whether you beat your dick or smoke a cigarette while resting does not fucking matter if you do 100 reps with 100 pounds your gains are going to be the same any way you split it up.

Please point out where you indicated the same weight.  All you keep talking about is total reps.  Show me the proof your gains will be the same.  Do one rep 100 times in an hour.....or 5 x 20 in about 10 mins.  Your gains WON'T be the same.  Geezus are you really this stupid?

[Krankenstein]

Doing shit wrong a long time doesnt make you an expert

The irony of your post is so big it might actually be bigger than your ego

[Grape Ape]

Please point out where you indicated the same weight.  All you keep talking about is total reps.  Show me the proof your gains will be the same.  Do one rep 100 times in an hour.....or 5 x 20 in about 10 mins.  Your gains WON'T be the same.  Geezus are you really this stupid?

Krank - how do you feel about the 70-80% of 1RM - 2-3 reps EMOM for like 12 sets?

My program calls for this from time to time.

Will it do bubkis for hypertrophy?

[Walter Sobchak]

Exactly....guys a loon and says stuff like  "for chest today I did 555 reps"......GEEZUS.

He’s talking reps because he knows he is a chronic drug addict who chases the pump with a few flushing exercises.

He won’t post the weight he is using because it is embarrassingly low.

Come on, anyone can see he is a seven layer cake of bullshit.

[wes]

Can you post up some training videos Wes? showing us the perfect form.

Can you go suck a big black cock?

[wes]

Doing shit wrong a long time doesnt make you an expert

You act like you look like a Greek god instead of a bag of dicks. 

Get over yourself dude.....your physique is a torn up mess with bad proportions and zero symmetry.

[wes]

He’s talking reps because he knows he is a chronic drug addict who chases the pump with a few flushing exercises.

He won’t post the weight he is using because it is embarrassingly low.

Come on, anyone can see he is a seven layer cake of bullshit.

Yup he`s just a pumper who does a few sets with baby weight and watches TV between sets............what a fucking clown.

[wes]

Hanky enter another contest I`m sure we could all use a good laugh.....use your patented three day prep and you could possibly win the overall show.
 

[Walter Sobchak]

Krank - how do you feel about the 70-80% of 1RM - 2-3 reps EMOM for like 12 sets?

My program calls for this from time to time.

Will it do bubkis for hypertrophy?

I’ve tried something similar and it wasn’t for me.

A decreasing pyramid of reps where the weight is correspondingly increased until the last set is failure at 2-3 reps has worked best for me. For short periods of time (maybe a month) I will train heavier and do a 6, 4, 3, 3, 1 type of rep program. I am absolutely vigilant with warming up and stretching when using that type of power program

[Krankenstein]

Krank - how do you feel about the 70-80% of 1RM - 2-3 reps EMOM for like 12 sets?

My program calls for this from time to time.

Will it do bubkis for hypertrophy?

1) You should probably ask the person who devised your program

2) I use EMOM stuff more with strength training.  When I do my oly lifting it is usually 1 - 2 reps EMOM for 12 - 20 mins.  (Then again, if I do 2 reps per minute for 12 mins thats 24 reps...according to the resident expert I could use the same weight and do 1 rep every 2 mins for 48 mins which would be 24 reps and get the same results)

[Walter Sobchak]

Yup he`s just a pumper who does a few sets with baby weight and watches TV between sets............what a fucking clown.

Of course, you could see him shrinking every day he was on a lower dose.

He went for blood work to see if he could step back on the gas and found out he has the early indications of heart failure.

Since when does a true heavyweight pump on a Smith machine bench press with 70% of bodyweight reps?

[Grape Ape]

I’ve tried something similar and it wasn’t for me.

A decreasing pyramid of reps where the weight is correspondingly increased until the last set is failure at 2-3 reps has worked best for me. For short periods of time (maybe a month) I will train heavier and do a 6, 4, 3, 3, 1 type of rep program. I am absolutely vigilant with warming up and stretching when using that type of power program

I don't like it much either, especially on DLs.  For bench it's fine.  Will give your advice a shot next workout - thanks man.

[Grape Ape]

1) You should probably ask the person who devised your program

2) I use EMOM stuff more with strength training.  When I do my oly lifting it is usually 1 - 2 reps EMOM for 12 - 20 mins.  (Then again, if I do 2 reps per minute for 12 mins thats 24 reps...according to the resident expert I could use the same weight and do 1 rep every 2 mins for 48 mins which would be 24 reps and get the same results)

Program was a strength cycle.  Just didn't know if I'd get any additional benefit.

[wes]

Of course, you could see him shrinking every day he was on a lower dose.

He went for blood work to see if he could step back on the gas and found out he has the early indications of heart failure.

Since when does a true heavyweight pump on a Smith machine bench press with 70% of bodyweight reps?

I agree on all counts brother.