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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6700 on: July 07, 2025, 02:26:08 PM »
I want people to have the freedom to say what they like.
There is a huge double standard with people in the UK , they want Lucy Connolly free because she "only" made comments about burning down hotels with migrants in but yet want Bob Vylan jailed for saying "death to the IDF" at Glastonbury

Both free or both in jail. thats the only consistency


Both should be Free.

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Thought police & double standards everywhere.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6701 on: July 07, 2025, 02:31:47 PM »

Both should be Free.

UK if completely Fucked under Liebour & Kweir Khvnt Stammer,
Thought police & double standards everywhere.
the reason one is in jail and the other isnt is to spread the seeds of discontent and disharmony, Starmer wants  people on the streets rioting again.

They are freeing up jail spaces as we speak

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6702 on: July 07, 2025, 02:37:23 PM »
the reason one is in jail and the other isnt is to spread the seeds of discontent and disharmony, Starmer wants  people on the streets rioting again.

They are freeing up jail spaces as we speak

Yes , correct all of this is pre planned & designed so TPTB can achieve their
Ulimate goals.

None of it is happening by accident.  MSM & opposition parties are complicit
As not one journalist or MP asks any serious or hard hitting questions. KHVNTS.

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« Reply #6703 on: July 07, 2025, 03:02:07 PM »
I didn't mean to imply Zelensky is antisemitic, what I meant to say is that antisemites are tolerated, and indeed funded and armed, by Jews. You see it Ukraine, you see it in the ME, the US and Israel has funded al Qaeda, even way before this regime change in Syria Israel was treating wounded ISIS fighters in Israel. Incredibly Hamas itself was built up by Israel against PLO or whatever it was.

I don't I'm making excessive hoopla about the insignia, I'm merely showing the contingent is very active and relevat there. If Russian fighters had that insignia we'd never see the end of it. Ok, Russia may not treat some Ukrainians well. But Russia appears to try to avoid civilian casualties, for example strikes at Ukr military factories were conducted at night to avoid workers being there. Ukraine otoh has targeted civilians, they can't defeat the Russian army. The train attacks showed they are willing to target civilians, it's why Russia called them terrorist attacks, international law says targeting civilians is the definition of terrorism. Ukraine has jailed all oppositonal journalists and politicians, subjected them to torture (which will be contested by people like yourself I'm sure, I accept I don't have personal knowledge myself) and also elections are suspendended. Ok I accept Ukraine's amended constitution says you can't have elections in war time, but obvously Russians don't accept it, they say zelensky isn't the rightful leader of Ukraine and will not sign any agreements with him, they want NATO to underwrite those possible agreements, NATO has to assure Russia Ukraine will never be accepted into NATO and so on.

I don't absolve Russia of any horrible acts, and yes I know I'm being partial, but anyone watching has to make up their minds on who to believe. I love to have dialogue with people who disagree with me, maybe I could be persuaded to change my opinions if presented with rational arguments. I won't get into name calling, at least I haven't yet 8)

I very well know my posts get overly long, very aware, but I try to cover my bases so the speak and trying to not be misunderstood  :D

I can't say whether Israel funds Hamas or not but it seems more likely to me that Iran funds both Hezbollah and Hamas. I don't like yourself blame the Jews for all the worlds problems, surely you see the evils of Islamic fundamentalism too?

You are heavily on Russias side that is without a doubt when you say they try not to target civilians. This is laughable and obviously you have done no research to make sure that's true which it is not, blatantly and out in the open not. What train attacks do you refer to? That would be news for me, but Russians also need to get a small taste of what they are doing en mass in Ukraine daily. Did all those former soviet states beg Russia for the protection of its umbrella? Hell no, they made the choice to enter Nato, ok so some agreements were broken Russia has broken many agreements including not attacking Ukraine for giving up the nukes. Smells like paranoid school yard bully behavior to me.

Ps; ok so I guess you mean the bridges with train lines that were destroyed in the Kursk region leading to several deaths. May they rest in peace also the 20 plus thousand civilians slaughtered in the bombardment of Mariupol.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6704 on: July 07, 2025, 05:44:04 PM »
I can't say whether Israel funds Hamas or not but it seems more likely to me that Iran funds both Hezbollah and Hamas. I don't like yourself blame the Jews for all the worlds problems, surely you see the evils of Islamic fundamentalism too?

You are heavily on Russias side that is without a doubt when you say they try not to target civilians. This is laughable and obviously you have done no research to make sure that's true which it is not, blatantly and out in the open not. What train attacks do you refer to? That would be news for me, but Russians also need to get a small taste of what they are doing en mass in Ukraine daily. Did all those former soviet states beg Russia for the protection of its umbrella? Hell no, they made the choice to enter Nato, ok so some agreements were broken Russia has broken many agreements including not attacking Ukraine for giving up the nukes. Smells like paranoid school yard bully behavior to me.

Ps; ok so I guess you mean the bridges with train lines that were destroyed in the Kursk region leading to several deaths. May they rest in peace also the 20 plus thousand civilians slaughtered in the bombardment of Mariupol.

I would say it is you who have done no research, I watch all these podcasts on YT, read lots of articles, and I get the Ukrainian, Empire/Israel/Zionist narrative as well. I could do a several page post here on all your claims; if you care to read it I can do it 8) Iran isn't supporting Hamas now, their baby turned against them so now their other baby, ISIS, is being armed by the Jews in Gaza. This ain't no paranoia, Bibi talked about it openly just a few days ago! You aren't doing ANY of the "research" you claim I'm not doing. Your talking points are straight from the MSM Zionist media.

From the Zionist BBC:

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"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has confirmed that Israel is arming clans in Gaza that he says are opposed to Hamas.

His comments came after Israeli media reports quoted defense sources as saying Netanyahu had authorized giving weapons to one particular group in the south of Gaza.

Several Israeli politicians have accused Netanyahu of endangering Israeli security.

"What's wrong with this?" Netanyahu says in a short video he's tweeted. "It only saves the lives of Israeli solders", he continues - "and publicising it only helps Hamas".

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I already acknowledged that I'm biased, I am human. ALL commentary on ALL sides is biased and slanted. There is NO news agency that is objective, can't be done.

This is what I know to be true:

- Iran hasn't waged an offensive war in other countries in 200 years, as the Iran President said. Israel has done so, the US has done so.

- Iran supporting the Palestinian cause is altogether righteous. 700 thousand Palestinians were killed and driven from their homes in 1948. Israel started doing terrorist attacks, towards the British as well. Israel is the founder of modern terrorism, they explicitly target civilians, they have zero shame about it, they have the mandate from Yahweh to do it, all Amalek can be killed, it's considered righteous to kill and rape civilians. Bibi talks about how Hamas beheaded babies and mass raped women with ZERO evidence (makes you wonder if Jews should be trusted with their WWII Nazi atrocity stories!) However there's lots of evidence of the opposite. IDF soldiers just admitted they were told to shoot unarmed women and children waiting for food in Israeli named 'safe zones ' That is pure evil, these supposed terroristic Iranian's don't come anywhere close. Iran killed like 30 Israelis during the 12 day war and they were purely; Israel killed 700 Iranians in this massacre. Israeli agents told Iranian politicians they were to leave within 12 hours or the IDF would kill their women and children; I think it was Washington Post that publicized these calls. When Israel aborted the Iran attacks the pilots requested they could drop the unused munitions on Gaza, which they reportedly did in some capacity

Who is the terrorist and belligerent? Israel never admitted they have a nuclear arsenal, the US looks the other way, contravening US that forbids dealing with such states law that forbids the US to deal with such states, congress is forbidden from even mentioning it on the floor. Israel never signed the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty. I'm convinced if there's a nuclear attack it will come from Israel. All the US and other allied intelligence agencies said Iran is not building a nuke. Donald bought (or maybe not) the Israeli intelligence claim that Iran was mere days away from building a nuke which they would give to the houthis in Yemen. A complete joke, no rational person would buy that ridiculous claim!

Who is evil here?!!!

I could go on forever but my posts are altogether too long as is for getbig's attention span and most don't read for shit, it's all 10 second TikTok reels and YT shorts for most people today, zero attention span. I actually read books as a kid (the horror!) and my preferred information format is still text :D

Edit: can't resist adding more on the Nazi insignia and Nazi contingent. From a Jew journalist in 2022. Is all this fake?

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But even though Putin is engaging in propaganda, it’s also true that Ukraine has a genuine Nazi problem — both past and present. Putin’s destructive actions — among them the devastation of Jewish communities — make clear that he’s lying when he says his goal is to ensure anyone’s welfare. But important as it is to defend the yellow-and-blue flag against the Kremlin’s brutal aggression, it would be a dangerous oversight to deny Ukraine’s antisemitic history and collaboration with Hitler’s Nazis, as well as the latter-day embrace of neo-Nazi factions in some quarters.

Nowadays, Ukraine counts between 56,000 to 140,000 Jews, who enjoy freedoms and protections never imagined by their grandparents. That includes an updated law passed last month criminalizing antisemitic acts. Unfortunately, the law was intended to address a pronounced uptick in public displays of bigotry, including swastika-laden vandalism of synagogues and Jewish memorials, and eerie marches in Kyiv and other cities that celebrated the Waffen SS.

In another ominous development, Ukraine has in recent years erected a glut of statues honoring Ukrainian nationalists whose legacies are tainted by their indisputable record as Nazi proxies. The Forward newspaper cataloged some of these deplorables, including Stepan Bandera, leader of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), whose followers acted as local militia members for the SS and German army. “Ukraine has several dozen monuments and scores of street names glorifying this Nazi collaborator, enough to require two separate Wikipedia pages,” the Forward wrote.

Another frequent honoree is Roman Shukhevych, revered as a Ukrainian freedom fighter but also the leader of a feared Nazi auxiliary police unit that the Forward notes was “responsible for butchering thousands of Jews and … Poles.” Statues have also been raised for Yaroslav Stetsko, a one-time chair of the OUN, who wrote “I insist on the extermination of the Jews in Ukraine.”

Far-right groups have also gained political currency in the past decade, none more chilling than Svoboda (formerly the Social National Party of Ukraine), whose leader claimed the country was controlled by a “Muscovite-Jewish mafia” and whose deputy used an antisemitic slur to describe Ukrainian-born Jewish actor Mila Kunis. Svoboda has sent several members to Ukraine’s Parliament, including one who called the Holocaust a “bright period” in human history, according to Foreign Policy.

Just as disturbing, neo-Nazis are part of some of Ukraine’s growing ranks of volunteer battalions. They are battle-hardened after waging some of the toughest street fighting against Moscow-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine following Putin’s Crimean invasion in 2014. One is the Azov Battalion, founded by an avowed white supremacist who claimed Ukraine’s national purpose was to rid the country of Jews and other inferior races. In 2018, the U.S. Congress stipulated that its aid to Ukraine couldn’t be used “to provide arms, training or other assistance to the Azov Battalion.” Even so, Azov is now an official member of the Ukraine National Guard.

But even if some elements of the country have been entangled with one of history’s most loathsome movements, standing with Ukraine is without doubt the honorable posture to take in this drama.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

Nazi Death's Head insignia on a troop standing behind Zelensky. A few pics from a NY times article.






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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6705 on: July 07, 2025, 05:56:19 PM »
I want people to have the freedom to say what they like.
There is a huge double standard with people in the UK , they want Lucy Connolly free because she "only" made comments about burning down hotels with migrants in but yet want Bob Vylan jailed for saying "death to the IDF" at Glastonbury

Both free or both in jail. thats the only consistency

Ok, I get you now 8)

Black Sabbath fans hate Jews too. Those artillery shells went to mostly kill civilian women and children. And of course he's Jewish. Who else supports Israel now except Jews, American Christian dispensationalist Zionists and very old people who don't consume any new information? That's why i feel most defending Israel is part of one of these groups. The "good" part of these conflicts is that it's opened people's eyes to what these people seem predisposed to. Some actually start to look back at history, from biblical times to now. The Jews are the most bloodthirsty and evil of all peoples. I want to qualify that there are plenty of righteous Jews too, but the agenda of world Jewry has been most destructive all throughout history. Rabbi Wanton's comment is most instructive. I have "recent" videos of Rabbis saying the same, they disagree with what Hitler did obviously but think he was essentially correct, he identified the right problem from his POV.


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6706 on: Today at 12:39:41 AM »
Ok, I get you now 8)

Black Sabbath fans hate Jews too. Those artillery shells went to mostly kill civilian women and children. And of course he's Jewish. Who else supports Israel now except Jews, American Christian dispensationalist Zionists and very old people who don't consume any new information? That's why i feel most defending Israel is part of one of these groups. The "good" part of these conflicts is that it's opened people's eyes to what these people seem predisposed to. Some actually start to look back at history, from biblical times to now. The Jews are the most bloodthirsty and evil of all peoples. I want to qualify that there are plenty of righteous Jews too, but the agenda of world Jewry has been most destructive all throughout history. Rabbi Wanton's comment is most instructive. I have "recent" videos of Rabbis saying the same, they disagree with what Hitler did obviously but think he was essentially correct, he identified the right problem from his POV.
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6707 on: Today at 01:07:46 AM »
Ok, I get you now 8)

Black Sabbath fans hate Jews too. Those artillery shells went to mostly kill civilian women and children. And of course he's Jewish. Who else supports Israel now except Jews, American Christian dispensationalist Zionists and very old people who don't consume any new information? That's why i feel most defending Israel is part of one of these groups. The "good" part of these conflicts is that it's opened people's eyes to what these people seem predisposed to. Some actually start to look back at history, from biblical times to now. The Jews are the most bloodthirsty and evil of all peoples. I want to qualify that there are plenty of righteous Jews too, but the agenda of world Jewry has been most destructive all throughout history. Rabbi Wanton's comment is most instructive. I have "recent" videos of Rabbis saying the same, they disagree with what Hitler did obviously but think he was essentially correct, he identified the right problem from his POV.

Correction zionists not Jews
They need to be tortured and I'd be happy to do so

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6708 on: Today at 01:38:08 AM »
I would say it is you who have done no research, I watch all these podcasts on YT, read lots of articles, and I get the Ukrainian, Empire/Israel/Zionist narrative as well. I could do a several page post here on all your claims; if you care to read it I can do it 8) Iran isn't supporting Hamas now, their baby turned against them so now their other baby, ISIS, is being armed by the Jews in Gaza. This ain't no paranoia, Bibi talked about it openly just a few days ago! You aren't doing ANY of the "research" you claim I'm not doing. Your talking points are straight from the MSM Zionist media.

From the Zionist BBC:
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I already acknowledged that I'm biased, I am human. ALL commentary on ALL sides is biased and slanted. There is NO news agency that is objective, can't be done.

This is what I know to be true:

- Iran hasn't waged an offensive war in other countries in 200 years, as the Iran President said. Israel has done so, the US has done so.

- Iran supporting the Palestinian cause is altogether righteous. 700 thousand Palestinians were killed and driven from their homes in 1948. Israel started doing terrorist attacks, towards the British as well. Israel is the founder of modern terrorism, they explicitly target civilians, they have zero shame about it, they have the mandate from Yahweh to do it, all Amalek can be killed, it's considered righteous to kill and rape civilians. Bibi talks about how Hamas beheaded babies and mass raped women with ZERO evidence (makes you wonder if Jews should be trusted with their WWII Nazi atrocity stories!) However there's lots of evidence of the opposite. IDF soldiers just admitted they were told to shoot unarmed women and children waiting for food in Israeli named 'safe zones ' That is pure evil, these supposed terroristic Iranian's don't come anywhere close. Iran killed like 30 Israelis during the 12 day war and they were purely; Israel killed 700 Iranians in this massacre. Israeli agents told Iranian politicians they were to leave within 12 hours or the IDF would kill their women and children; I think it was Washington Post that publicized these calls. When Israel aborted the Iran attacks the pilots requested they could drop the unused munitions on Gaza, which they reportedly did in some capacity

Who is the terrorist and belligerent? Israel never admitted they have a nuclear arsenal, the US looks the other way, contravening US that forbids dealing with such states law that forbids the US to deal with such states, congress is forbidden from even mentioning it on the floor. Israel never signed the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty. I'm convinced if there's a nuclear attack it will come from Israel. All the US and other allied intelligence agencies said Iran is not building a nuke. Donald bought (or maybe not) the Israeli intelligence claim that Iran was mere days away from building a nuke which they would give to the houthis in Yemen. A complete joke, no rational person would buy that ridiculous claim!

Who is evil here?!!!

I could go on forever but my posts are altogether too long as is for getbig's attention span and most don't read for shit, it's all 10 second TikTok reels and YT shorts for most people today, zero attention span. I actually read books as a kid (the horror!) and my preferred information format is still text :D

Edit: can't resist adding more on the Nazi insignia and Nazi contingent. From a Jew journalist in 2022. Is all this fake?

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

Nazi Death's Head insignia on a troop standing behind Zelensky. A few pics from a NY times article.

You said Russia does not target civilians therefore you have done no research. Russia is the biggest nazi in Ukraine. I don't know why you keep going on about the Jews its like they live in your head. I suggest you learn how to meditate.

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« Reply #6709 on: Today at 04:08:53 AM »
Trump Reveals U.S. Sending ‘More Weapons’ to Ukraine: ‘We Have To’

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/07/07/trump-reveals-u-s-sending-more-weapons-ukraine/

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6710 on: Today at 07:32:46 AM »
I thought it was widely known that Ukraine has a Nazi obsession?
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« Reply #6711 on: Today at 07:38:34 AM »
I thought it was widely known that Ukraine has a Nazi obsession?

Western Ukraine is infested with Banderites who allied with the Nazi's in WW2.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6712 on: Today at 08:25:29 AM »
I thought it was widely known that Ukraine has a Nazi obsession?

Reason Putin attacked Ukraine was due to that The Nazis attacked the Russians in Donbas right?
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« Reply #6713 on: Today at 08:27:58 AM »
Reason Putin attacked Ukraine was due to that The Nazis attacked the Russians in Donbas right?

The real reason was/is to halt NATO expansion


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« Reply #6714 on: Today at 08:28:37 AM »
The real reason was/is to halt NATO expansion

Yeah, and stop the Nazis killing Russians in East Uke
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« Reply #6715 on: Today at 08:34:21 AM »
Yeah, and stop the Nazis killing Russians in East Uke

Yep

I hate.fucking liars with a passion

And the western media lie constantly through thier goddamn teeth

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« Reply #6716 on: Today at 11:01:26 AM »
Trump demonstrating again he is just another American president by sending arms to further the conflict. Putin will simply now just bunker down further and the chances for peace sink further. The Donbas has to be surrendered, it's where the western backed and financed nazi militias attacked the Russian minority and baited Russia into this conflict to start with. Appreciating Russia also had its own militias in response. But the Entire position of Ukraine needing NATO has been planned and staged through policy for decades.  The West and as not just left leaning governments  just can't leave things alone more interested in the politics of others than fixing their own problems. If they won't surrender it Putin will just eventually take it. Dumb decision, the position needs to be realised and the war to end, too many Ukrainians and Russians are dying. 

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« Reply #6717 on: Today at 11:10:20 AM »
Trump demonstrating again he is just another American president by sending arms to further the conflict. Putin will simply now just bunker down further and the chances for peace sink further. The Donbas has to be surrendered, it's where the western backed and financed nazi militias attacked the Russian minority and baited Russia into this conflict to start with. Appreciating Russia also had its own militias in response. But the Entire position of Ukraine needing NATO has been planned and staged through policy for decades.  The West and as not just left leaning governments  just can't leave things alone more interested in the politics of others than fixing their own problems. If they won't surrender it Putin will just eventually take it. Dumb decision, the position needs to be realised and the war to end, too many Ukrainians and Russians are dying.

They don't care as long as its not their kind dying

Fuck them all to hell

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« Reply #6718 on: Today at 11:41:43 AM »
Reason Putin attacked Ukraine was due to that The Nazis attacked the Russians in Donbas right?
Yes, Russia is just defending itself like Isreal did when they attacked struck Iran.
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« Reply #6719 on: Today at 12:00:40 PM »
Yep

I hate.fucking liars with a passion

And the western media lie constantly through thier goddamn teeth

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They don't lie nearly as much as you do
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