Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?

[King Shizzo]

He’s not trying to get bigger.

He’s just an attention-whoring retard with internet access.

Don’t waste your time.

Don't bring Chaos into this.

[bhank]

You are having a hard time eating more because you are filling up on water. Stop worrying about pounding water and pound food if you urine isnt brown you are not dehydrated

[webstar]

You are having a hard time eating more because you are filling up on water. Stop worrying about pounding water and pound food if you urine isnt brown you are not dehydrated

Solid advice from Healy.

Also, if you are shitting blood don't worry about that either.. Up the dose and pound the food.

[Gym-Rat]

You are having a hard time eating more because you are filling up on water. Stop worrying about pounding water and pound food if you urine isnt brown you are not dehydrated

Good point Brian. many think they have to pound gallons of water a day. While some of course is good for you, too much is pointless.
Latest research says "just drink when youre thirsty".

I'd rather have a few large glasses of milk myself to be honest..

[Matt]

You are having a hard time eating more because you are filling up on water. Stop worrying about pounding water and pound food if you urine isnt brown you are not dehydrated

Thank you. That was the issue yesterday. That 5L water was way too much. 

[King Shizzo]

Is Matt taking over for Genova?

[wes]

Solid advice from Healy.

Also, if you are shitting blood don't worry about that either.. Up the dose and pound the food.

[Matt]

Is Matt taking over for Genova?

If I do a cycle on 1,000 calories, then yeah...

If I can eat the necessary 200g protein and ~2,500 calories daily, I should respond ok.

Settle something for me:

Are you the gimmick of prestigious 2007-2014 era classic Getbigger Alex23? At 5'10" and 250-lb of mass, he was one of the biggest guys on Getbig!

[King Shizzo]

If I do a cycle on 1,000 calories, then yeah...

If I can eat the necessary 200g protein and ~2,500 calories daily, I should respond ok.

Settle something for me:

Are you the gimmick of prestigious 2007-2014 era classic Getbigger Alex23? At 5'10" and 250-lb of mass, he was one of the biggest guys on Getbig!

You really are autistic.... You have asked that question multiple times already. No, I'm not fat Alice.

I have real royal bloodlines, and a hint of abs.

I have 82% body fat, and I give out fitness advice.

[Gym-Rat]

Matt, if you want something easy to drink, his looks interesting. Big Ron approved:




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[Walter Sobchak]

You really are autistic.... You have asked that question multiple times already. No, I'm not fat Alice.

I have real royal bloodlines, and a hint of abs.

I have 82% body fat, and I give out fitness advice.

.

[ThisisOverload]

Getbig juicers: do you mess with acohol swabs?

I always use it.

More of a piece of mind, my Endo told me not to worry about swabbing the skin, but something just feels wrong about it.

[wes]

I always use it.

More of a piece of mind, my Endo told me not to worry about swabbing the skin, but something just feels wrong about it.

Same here bro.

[Matt]

Same here bro.

It seems intuitive...I mean, it would seem like bacteria on the skin could get pushed inside your body, but - I haven't read the research.

wes - what water intake do you recommend?

5L seems unsustainable to me. I was so full from water, I had a hard time eating.

That said, 3L is doable I think [just under a gallon].

However, my plan here is to do whatever I need to do - whether I like it or not. But how much water would you say is "enough"?

[IroNat]

Get your fluids from protein drinks, milk, etc.

If you get thirsty training drink water.

Junk it up a bit.  Don't eat clean if you are trying to grow.

Simple.

[Grape Ape]

It seems intuitive...I mean, it would seem like bacteria on the skin could get pushed inside your body, but - I haven't read the research.

It can and it does, and even alcohol swabs aren't 100%.  All it takes is one rogue molecule to get in the system and it can fuck up your world.

When I inject, I use a special UV light that can see bacteria impressions on the skin.

It's expensive, but totally worth it.

I also hold my breath so I don't inhale any bacteria the light missed that the needle might jar loose, but I think that might not be effective, if we're being honest.

[wes]

It seems intuitive...I mean, it would seem like bacteria on the skin could get pushed inside your body, but - I haven't read the research.

wes - what water intake do you recommend?

5L seems unsustainable to me. I was so full from water, I had a hard time eating.

That said, 3L is doable I think [just under a gallon].

However, my plan here is to do whatever I need to do - whether I like it or not. But how much water would you say is "enough"?

Drinking a gallon of water a day as is usually recommended was harder for me to do than a set of twenty rep heavy squats and/or eating ultra clean for sixteen weeks.

After a while I gave it up and always had a 16 -20 oz. bottle with me at home, I would steadily drink from it and when it was empty I refilled it ASAP and kept repeating this process.

I was never a big eater in the early morning.....no appetite in the early AM,  but I usually always trained as early as I could....even at 5 AM if my shift at work was seven to three thirty.....I loved the fact that I had done more work that morning than most of the city would do in a week and I hadn`t even gotten to my job yet.  LOL 

Sorry, started to ramble there for a sec....instead of solid food I would drink whey in 20 oz. of water both Pre and Post workout {early morning} and for my other four meals I would drink 12 -16 oz. of water with the meal and would finish it before I got up from the table.....also I drink a lot of coffee, which I know is a natural diuretic but it`s fluid that I`m sure wasn`t totally pissed out.

Before this I would fill a gallon and jug and vow to finish it daily which I seldom ever did.

I also carried a bottle of water with me to the gym when I trained.

So whatever that comes out to is approximately what I drank/drink daily......not quite as much these days though.....I`m up all night pissing and I don`t sleep well so the fluid intake doesn`t help in this regard.

The guy who made up the gallon of water per day rule just so happens to be the same guy that wrote the Bible....Google it and get back to me with his name when you get the chance.   

While water is important of course for virtually tons of reasons, I wouldn`t  sweat it too much if I fell short of the general recommended amount suggested by that author of the Bible.....just try what I outlined above, as you are steadily consuming it during the course of the day....it may even come out to more than a gallon....you do the math I`m still having my coffee. 

Bottom line try to stay hydrated and don`t obsess over some guideline that varies among so called experts anyway, plus bigger guys will need more fluid than smaller guys and other variables.....in other words do your best but don`t obsess over it.

[wes]

It can and it does, and even alcohol swabs aren't 100%.  All it takes is one rogue molecule to get in the system and it can fuck up your world.

When I inject, I use a special UV light that can see bacteria impressions on the skin.

It's expensive, but totally worth it.

I also hold my breath so I don't inhale any bacteria the light missed that the needle might jar loose, but I think that might not be effective, if we're being honest.

All Natural Germiphobe Of Peace 

You funny bastard.  LOL 

[Matt]

Get your fluids from protein drinks, milk, etc.

If you get thirsty training drink water.

Junk it up a bit.  Don't eat clean if you are trying to grow.

Simple.

It makes me wonder how much of some of the nutrition demands pushed were just to sell supplements - or to sell the idea that bodybuilders have to do crazy things to get so huge, because it can't POSSIBLY be massive amounts of PED's. No, no - you had guys like Lou Ferrigno claim he trained six hours a day in 1992. He also claimed he was 1% body fat in his Stand Tall video in 1997.

I think junking it up will help me. My appetite is sort of...impaired from years of ultra low calories.

I think I'm going to start with 1,800 calories [160g from protein], and 2.5L to 3L of water daily, with half those calories from protein shakes for the first week or two, until I get my appetite moving a little. I'm really just not hungry at all.

[Matt]

It can and it does, and even alcohol swabs aren't 100%.  All it takes is one rogue molecule to get in the system and it can fuck up your world.

I had bacterial pneumonia once in my life - in my 3rd and most recent real [with injections] cycle, in 2006. So I cut the cycle short at eight weeks because of that.

It just makes me wonder - where do we catch these little bugs that can totally change our lives? I mean - prior to antibiotics, bacterial pneumonia killed people.

Whatever's coming up over the next few years - I hope we don't see major shortages of medicines.

When I inject, I use a special UV light that can see bacteria impressions on the skin.

It's expensive, but totally worth it.

I also hold my breath so I don't inhale any bacteria the light missed that the needle might jar loose, but I think that might not be effective, if we're being honest.

LOL.

I see you're still taking the 2020 Covid protocols seriously? 

A friend of mine would rub anti-BACTERIAL hand sanitizer on his coffee cup after picking it up from the drive-thru. 

I'd be in the car with him and his wife and another friend, and just watching him squeeze that shit onto his fucking coffee cup was so pathetic. It's amazing to me what absolute dumb fucks people are. The whole world just spent two years thinking we were in a lethal plague, when they literally didn't personally witness one person die or get seriously ill!

And no - some fat fuck 65-year-old they know who died doesn't count.

Spraying anti-BACTERIAL hand sanitizer on a COFFEE CUP to prevent a respiratory VIRUS. LOL. You literally can't make this up. 

[IroNat]

I remember early in the Covid hysteria people spraying themselves down in the Home Depot parking lot.

[Matt]

Drinking a gallon of water a day as is usually recommended was harder for me to do than a set of twenty rep heavy squats and/or eating ultra clean for sixteen weeks.

After a while I gave it up and always had a 16 -20 oz. bottle with me at home, I would steadily drink from it and when it was empty I refilled it ASAP and kept repeating this process.

I was never a big eater in the early morning.....no appetite in the early AM,  but I usually always trained as early as I could....even at 5 AM if my shift at work was seven to three thirty.....I loved the fact that I had done more work that morning than most of the city would do in a week and I hadn`t even gotten to my job yet.  LOL 

Sorry, started to ramble there for a sec....instead of solid food I would drink whey in 20 oz. of water both Pre and Post workout {early morning} and for my other four meals I would drink 12 -16 oz. of water with the meal and would finish it before I got up from the table.....also I drink a lot of coffee, which I know is a natural diuretic but it`s fluid that I`m sure wasn`t totally pissed out.

Before this I would fill a gallon and jug and vow to finish it daily which I seldom ever did.

I also carried a bottle of water with me to the gym when I trained.

So whatever that comes out to is approximately what I drank/drink daily......not quite as much these days though.....I`m up all night pissing and I don`t sleep well so the fluid intake doesn`t help in this regard.

The guy who made up the gallon of water per day rule just so happens to be the same guy that wrote the Bible....Google it and get back to me with his name when you get the chance.   

While water is important of course for virtually tons of reasons, I wouldn`t  sweat it too much if I fell short of the general recommended amount suggested by that author of the Bible.....just try what I outlined above, as you are steadily consuming it during the course of the day....it may even come out to more than a gallon....you do the math I`m still having my coffee. 

Bottom line try to stay hydrated and don`t obsess over some guideline that varies among so called experts anyway, plus bigger guys will need more fluid than smaller guys and other variables.....in other words do your best but don`t obsess over it.

Thank you for the detailed post. You're right that size [body weight] will be a variable here.

Jay Cutler told Ron he was drinking THREE GALLONS of water a day in 2002.

That's insane to me - but hey, that's Jay Cutler.

I do remember the gallon+ recommendation was all over The Precontest Bible by Larry Pepe! Good call. I had forgotten about that book - and yes, most if not all of the pros were pushing the gallon+ water consumption.

[Matt]

I remember early in the Covid hysteria people spraying themselves down in the Home Depot parking lot.

And people wonder how Holocausts happen. Germans being exploited financially set the stage to begin with, but - IMO, if people are capable of being such utter and complete morons over a NON-THREAT, it's scary to think how they would behave over a REAL THREAT.

[IroNat]

The excess protein and water consumption ideas are all bullsh*t nonsense.

[wes]

The excess protein and water consumption ideas are all bullsh*t nonsense.

Yeah, for the most part for sure.