Matt C. Cycle Update.

[MCWAY]

Yes it is but at the top of the front press,you just clear the top of your head......no lockout,then behind the neck as comfortable as you can without undue pain,then back to the front just clearing the top of the head again.....in essence its front to back clearing the head with no lockout which creates constant tension on the deltoids.

I have no problem doing BTNP though I haven`t done them in eons and opted for Bradfords which I feel is far superior due to the constant tension and no strain on the joints due to locking out.

I hope that was clear.....if not I`m sure YouTube has a tutorial.....kind of hard to explain.

I'll give those another try, probably on my second weekly upper body workouts (Thursdays). But, instead of using the short barbells that are used for curls, I'll use an Olympic bar and put the rubber-coated 10s (the ones that are the same circumference as the 45s but much thinner) on it.

[Matt]

That's easy!

1. You hump the weight up, to the point where you nearly castrate yourself on the ceiling fan.

2. Your grip is too narrow

3. You bounce the bar off your chest or ribcage

4. You let the delts and triceps take too much of the load.

Quit worrying about 1-rep maxes. When you can hit decent poundages for 7-10 reps, business will pick up. Plus, there are other chest exercises that you simply REFUSE to utilize (i.e. dips and incline presses).

You're mostly all correct there. But just one thing, MCWAY: what makes you think my chest has ANY potential, regardless?

DO YOU SEE ANY POTENTIAL THERE?? [photo below]

I don't!

But MCWAY - I will give you my word, I will try it your way for at least six months. I may even make some progress! But my chest will still suck.

I am 100% certain of that. Maybe that's just a self-fulfilling prophecy, but...it is what it is.

In fairness, my chest does suck. Whether it has more potential than I personally believe it does is one thing, but regardless - my chest genetics suck, MCWAY!!

No, you're not good at dieting (as in keeping as much muscle as possible, while shedding bodyfat). You simply know how to drop weight, losing almost as much muscle as bodyfat.

In fairness, I tolerate an ultra low calorie diet VERY well.

If I could do that while keeping my protein high, and a few other adjustments that I am aware of...I might be able to nail it next time.

But I'm going to wait until I am 100% certain.


Are

you really this daft? How much crack did you smoke to think you could get big on 90g of protein?

I (and others) have been telling you this for WEEKS, if not MONTHS, on thread after thread after thread. Steroids or no steroids, you NEED FOOD (quality and quality) to GROW. What you can't eat in solid food, you drink in liquid food.

You know what to do; you're simply too blasted LAZY to do it, period.

And spare us the excuses of your alleged concern for your health. No one is buying it.

Health reasons aside, I hate to eat, MCWAY.

I fucking hate to eat.

And it's not just eating - it's the cooking, cleaning, pissing, shitting, etc.

I hate all of that.

That's why I don't eat enough.

Seeing my response this summer from doubling my calories...and damn...I sort of want to eat more!

[Matt]

LOL...is this a joke? 

I always wanted a chest, but oh well...

[MCWAY]

You're mostly all correct there. But just one thing, MCWAY: what makes you think my chest has ANY potential, regardless?

DO YOU SEE ANY POTENTIAL THERE?? [photo below]

I don't!

But MCWAY - I will give you my word, I will try it your way for at least six months. I may even make some progress! But my chest will still suck.

Potential don't buy the groceries. And ease up your fixation on the flat-bench. If anything, you should do them LAST. Inclines and weighted dips would be the place to start. When you're too tired to do regular dips, use a dip machine (if your gym has one).

Here's another idea. Since you're so strength-obsessed, have you tried the chains on the end of the bar routine? Both powerlifters and bodybuilders use that from time to time. Powerlifters use it to help them EXPLODE through the sticking point of the bench press; while bodybuilders use them to add more resistance as the bar goes up to SQUEEZE the pecs.

I am 100% certain of that. Maybe that's just a self-fulfilling prophecy, but...it is what it is.

In fairness, my chest does suck. Whether it has more potential than I personally believe it does is one thing, but regardless - my chest genetics suck, MCWAY!!

Again, you've yet to exhaust your methods of training your chest. Another recommendation would be quit training 6 times a week. Drop it to four and train your chest and back TOGETHER. It really helped me years ago boost my strength and size for both body parts.

I do it alternate-style. For example, I do a set of incline barbell presses; rest; then, I hit the barbell rows. Chest and back are like peanut butter and jelly; they just go together!!

If, however, you don't quite feel the pecs, use a pre-exhaust superset (flyes IMMEDIATELY followed by bench press). Your poundage for the press will be much lower, because the pecs will be partially worn out.

In fairness, I tolerate an ultra low calorie diet VERY well.

If I could do that while keeping my protein high, and a few other adjustments that I am aware of...I might be able to nail it next time.

But I'm going to wait until I am 100% certain.

You will NEVER BE 100% certain. Do the best with what you have; mitigate the risks; and just go for it.

Are
Health reasons aside, I hate to eat, MCWAY.

I fucking hate to eat.

And it's not just eating - it's the cooking, cleaning, pissing, shitting, etc.

I hate all of that.

That's why I don't eat enough.

Seeing my response this summer from doubling my calories...and damn...I sort of want to eat more!

That is simple laziness which is easy to overcome.

1. Either cook several days worth of food (particularly meats) in advance; or get cheap canned meats like tuna.

2. What you can't eat, you DRINK....either homemade shakes (i.e. eggs and milk/Greek yogurt) or protein powders/"real meal" shakes/weight gainers.

3. As for cleaning up and using the bathroom, simply man up and do it. Digestive enzymes (or lots of pineapple or papaya) will help your protein digest more efficiently.

[Matt]

Potential don't buy the groceries. And ease up your fixation on the flat-bench. If anything, you should do them LAST. Inclines and weighted dips would be the place to start. When you're too tired to do regular dips, use a dip machine (if your gym has one).

Here's another idea. Since you're so strength-obsessed, have you tried the chains on the end of the bar routine? Both powerlifters and bodybuilders use that from time to time. Powerlifters use it to help them EXPLODE through the sticking point of the bench press; while bodybuilders use them to add more resistance as the bar goes up to SQUEEZE the pecs.

Potential don't buy the groceries is right. But I don't have potential anyway!

Look, MCWAY - my pecs would improve somewhat under your techniques. I'm not denying that. But my chest would still suck.

Do you remember Layne Norton's legs? That dude was probably squatting 500-lb [or at least 400+], and his legs were still bad! It wasn't until he was squatting 550-600+ that his legs became a strength.

You seem to have this mindset that it's just about hard work. IMO, it as not.

I train for strength, because the results come easily for me. Heck, even when I'm not trying, I'm getting decent results. So I choose to focus on where I get the easiest/best results.

Why spend a year focusing as much as possible to improve my pecs, only to get pecs that are 4/10 instead of 2/10 or 3/10?

In the end, my pecs will still SUCK! They will just suck LESS!

Again, you've yet to exhaust your methods of training your chest. Another recommendation would be quit training 6 times a week. Drop it to four and train your chest and back TOGETHER. It really helped me years ago boost my strength and size for both body parts.

I do it alternate-style. For example, I do a set of incline barbell presses; rest; then, I hit the barbell rows. Chest and back are like peanut butter and jelly; they just go together!!

If, however, you don't quite feel the pecs, use a pre-exhaust superset (flyes IMMEDIATELY followed by bench press). Your poundage for the press will be much lower, because the pecs will be partially worn out.

That would help my chest, but it would still suck. 

You will NEVER BE 100% certain. Do the best with what you have; mitigate the risks; and just go for it.

Do the best with what I have?! Have you bothered looking at my chest pictures?? I have nothing.

Horrible chest. Big bench though.

And look - I know your techniques will work. But my chest would still suck.

That is simple laziness which is easy to overcome.

1. Either cook several days worth of food (particularly meats) in advance; or get cheap canned meats like tuna.

2. What you can't eat, you DRINK....either homemade shakes (i.e. eggs and milk/Greek yogurt) or protein powders/"real meal" shakes/weight gainers.

3. As for cleaning up and using the bathroom, simply man up and do it. Digestive enzymes (or lots of pineapple or papaya) will help your protein digest more efficiently.

^ This matters more than the training advice you and others have been giving me.

If I can keep my calories up, I can keep improving.

I am currently 208-lb. That happened simply from adding calories and steroids.

Having said that, my health concerns are not without merit, MCWAY!

[wes]

I'll give those another try, probably on my second weekly upper body workouts (Thursdays). But, instead of using the short barbells that are used for curls, I'll use an Olympic bar and put the rubber-coated 10s (the ones that are the same circumference as the 45s but much thinner) on it.

Good luck,I hope you like them.

[Walter Sobchak]

Let me get this straight:

 - Weakling Canning posts video to try to attention whore and brag about strength.
 - Receives criticism that the reps are complete shit - and they are.
 - Has temper tantrum meltdown because he didn’t get the response he wanted.
 - Compares himself to world class strongman - proving his complete delusion.
 - Receives more decent criticism.
 - Cries, stomps feet, and holds his breath because once again proven to be an idiot.
 - Changes subject to horseshit chest development - posts weakass steroid pic.

What a fucking crybaby moron.

Here’s what you left out of your posts Matt “TITTY BOY” Canning…Walter Sobchak can properly shoulder press 100 lb dumbbells and make you look like the weak little retard you are.

TITS CANNING AND HIS HALF REPS!

[MCWAY]

Potential don't buy the groceries is right. But I don't have potential anyway!

Look, MCWAY - my pecs would improve somewhat under your techniques. I'm not denying that. But my chest would still suck.

Do you remember Layne Norton's legs? That dude was probably squatting 500-lb [or at least 400+], and his legs were still bad! It wasn't until he was squatting 550-600+ that his legs became a strength.

You seem to have this mindset that it's just about hard work. IMO, it as not.

It's not just about hard work. You can work hard doing things WRONG and get no results. It's hard and SMART work that gets it done. That's why I said to lay off the flat bench for a while; or do them LAST after inclines and dips.

I train for strength, because the results come easily for me. Heck, even when I'm not trying, I'm getting decent results. So I choose to focus on where I get the easiest/best results.

Why spend a year focusing as much as possible to improve my pecs, only to get pecs that are 4/10 instead of 2/10 or 3/10?

In the end, my pecs will still SUCK! They will just suck LESS!

And that's why you don't improve. Instead of challenging yourself, you revert to the path of least resistance.

Yet again, you have this bug in your head that strength and size are unrelated. Stronger pecs are bigger pecs. Training for strength ain't just one-rep maxes. It's lifting the MOST weight...with the INTENDED BODYPART doing the work.

You're training for stronger PECS, not just moving the weight from point A to point B. That (and sufficient amount of groceries) will plump them pectorals faster than you think.

[MCWAY]

Do the best with what I have?! Have you bothered looking at my chest pictures?? I have nothing.

Horrible chest. Big bench though.

And look - I know your techniques will work. But my chest would still suck.

Your "big bench" doesn't mean jack. Dollars to donuts, it involves those four things I listed earlier. When you start lifting heavy weights for multiple reps....with your PECS primarily, you'll get the result you want.

^ This matters more than the training advice you and others have been giving me.

If I can keep my calories up, I can keep improving.

I am currently 208-lb. That happened simply from adding calories and steroids.

Having said that, my health concerns are not without merit, MCWAY!

I said from the jump, many moons and several threads ago, that your diet was lackluster. I even recommended how you can drink more calories. Does the name "Poor Man's Met-Rx" ring a bell?

[Matt]

Let me get this straight:

 - Weakling Canning posts video to try to attention whore and brag about strength.
 - Receives criticism that the reps are complete shit - and they are.
 - Has temper tantrum meltdown because he didn’t get the response he wanted.
 - Compares himself to world class strongman - proving his complete delusion.
 - Receives more decent criticism.
 - Cries, stomps feet, and holds his breath because once again proven to be an idiot.
 - Changes subject to horseshit chest development - posts weakass steroid pic.

What a fucking crybaby moron.

Here’s what you left out of your posts Matt “TITTY BOY” Canning…Walter Sobchak can properly shoulder press 100 lb dumbbells and make you look like the weak little retard you are.

TITS CANNING AND HIS HALF REPS!

My reps were not perfect, but they weren't horrible. I would say 90% of people in the gym use form that is worse than mine. Full instructional videos on top websites show form that is worse than mine.

With that being said, let's get to the most important point:

You can't get one rep with 100-lb dumbbells for overhead press. If you could, you could easily post a video with your face blocked out.

But you can't.

So what does it say about you that you can't lift as much as someone you are calling a weakling?

So we are both weaklings - but you are the weaker weakling.

[Matt]

Your "big bench" doesn't mean jack. Dollars to donuts, it involves those four things I listed earlier. When you start lifting heavy weights for multiple reps....with your PECS primarily, you'll get the result you want.

This is where you're wrong, MCWAY - my pecs can improve, to be sure, but they will never be great.

Although...if I wanted to use higher doses of PED's for longer...they might be ok. But IMO, my chest will always be weak. I will always get the least out of it.

I said from the jump, many moons and several threads ago, that your diet was lackluster. I even recommended how you can drink more calories. Does the name "Poor Man's Met-Rx" ring a bell?

Actually, no. Tell me more about this. I'm very interested.

[Walter Sobchak]

My reps were not perfect, but they weren't horrible. I would say 90% of people in the gym use form that is worse than mine. Full instructional videos on top websites show form that is worse than mine.

With that being said, let's get to the most important point:

You can't get one rep with 100-lb dumbbells for overhead press. If you could, you could easily post a video with your face blocked out.

But you can't.

So what does it say about you that you can't lift as much as someone you are calling a weakling?

So we are both weaklings - but you are the weaker weakling.

Bwahahahahahaha….you can’t lift the weights, you won’t take advice, and your steroid cycle only added bloat and water. You’ve hit the loser trifecta!

Even bhankins is calling you out on your bullshit.

I can just see you and Arce Rehaluk sitting around this winter in the pigsty basement of your mommy’s house crying about how the world is unfair to retards.

Bwahahahahahaha!

[Titus Pullo]

Gaining 27-lb on 16mg Anadrol daily for two months is a bad response?

How is that a bad response? It's about the best response a person can possibly ever hope for, and is probably in thx top 1%.

Uhhh...reality check: weren't you totally detrained after a very long layoff before you started back with the weird hide and seek Anadrol doses thing?

There are FAR too many variables in play for you to spout percentage one, dude, especially given that you seem improved from a couple of angles at best.  To be blunt, your last pics were surprising, and not in a good way.  Your face looked like you were storing a few kilos of acorns for winter, you had a fold of fat on your chest and you just looked puffy and, if not plain fat, definitely waterlogged.

As for B. Hank's response - it really depends on how much gear he uses. If he's using IFBB pro level doses, then his response is pretty bad. If he's using the amount I am, then I'd say his response is excellent.

Whatever.

We've all given you good advice.  You ignore it outright, argue when your ego is hurt (has anyone in Getbig history flapped his yap more over justifying sloppy fucking DB shoulder press reps?!), then start all over with every excuse imaginable for why you aren't eating properly, why you continue to do this and that because "hey, something must be right in my training know-how, because I just lifted this!"

Begging the Question defined. 

I think you do train hard.  That's good.  But as we've all told you, lots of the sets you've filmed are ugly and not optimal for any purpose, be they for strength or hypertrophy (and there needn't be the implicit dichotomy there between that you constantly harp on, but that's another story). 

I wish you well, but until you manage to get your head into this, we're all wasting our time offering you advice.  You never listen.  You don't even listen to YOURSELF, for God's sake.  If you did, your posts easily would be half again smaller.  All you gotta do to start is stop repeating the same goddamned point two or three times in one message.

That's all.  Be well, Matt.

[MCWAY]

This is where you're wrong, MCWAY - my pecs can improve, to be sure, but they will never be great.

Although...if I wanted to use higher doses of PED's for longer...they might be ok. But IMO, my chest will always be weak. I will always get the least out of it.

Steroids aren't going to make your pecs better. Quit using the needle as a cop-out for doing the work.

Actually, no. Tell me more about this. I'm very interested.

I mentioned it weeks ago. It's simply six eggs and two cups of milk (ice cream or protein powder for flavoring optional).

I did that back in college over 25 years ago. These days, I'd replace milk with Greek yogurt. It's fare more dense and usually has no lactose. One 5-oz cup of Greek yogurt and three eggs will give you at least 30 grams or protein and 350 calories.

[Walter Sobchak]

1. You hump the weight up, to the point where you nearly castrate yourself on the ceiling fan.

Oh that’s fucking gold….🤣

[Matt]

Uhhh...reality check: weren't you totally detrained after a very long layoff before you started back with the weird hide and seek Anadrol doses thing?

There are FAR too many variables in play for you to spout percentage one, dude, especially given that you seem improved from a couple of angles at best.  To be blunt, your last pics were surprising, and not in a good way.  Your face looked like you were storing a few kilos of acorns for winter, you had a fold of fat on your chest and you just looked puffy and, if not plain fat, definitely waterlogged.

And this is why I can't take what you are saying seriously - I JUST FUCKING CAN'T.

The results I got from 15mg of Anadrol are EXACTLY THE RESULTS ANYONE WOULD GET.

As for facial bloat - have you bothered looking at the faces of any competitive pro bodybuilders or Strongmen?

They ALWAYS hold water in their face. And this is partially why I oh rarely used gear. It is NOT worth it to me to run gear if the side effects include having a puffy face, having pimples on my back, or LOSING MY HAIR.

I can say this most sincerely: I would rather keep my hairline than to have a perfect body, even if I could snap my fingers and have it, but at the cost of my hair.

Screw that!

Judging by how I look at 170-210, as far as I can tell, I can be as heavy as 210 without suffering too much face bloat. While my face bloat is NOTHING like your extremely exaggerated depiction of it, it is still more than I would personally want.

Which tells me that 190 may be the optimal body weight.

Also, do you think people will take seriously things you tell them when you massively exaggerate the facts? I can accept that I am holding water due to the minimal Anadrol I ran - but to suggest that I have some out of control water issue. I mean, come on.

But that's the thing - whether some people need to take the opportunity to be an asshole to me rather than just point to the areas I need to improve upon, and advise on them doesn't matter to me. I listen to all advice here IF I think it will help me. Even if someone is only doing it to be an asshole. Likewise, if I think the advice is bad, I'll ignore it.

I DO NOT think my form on the dumbbell press needs to be radically changed, so...I'm not going to radically change it. I will take my depth down a few inches, but certainly not a "foot" - which I literally can't go down that far anyway.

Whatever.

We've all given you good advice.  You ignore it outright, argue when your ego is hurt (has anyone in Getbig history flapped his yap more over justifying sloppy fucking DB shoulder press reps?!),

My dumbbell shoulder press reps were NOT that bad, and nothing you say is going to make me say that they were very bad. I could go down a few more inches - maybe - but my reps were ok.

CASE IN POINT - look at these other videos of people pressing similarly heavy weights. Now tell me, Titus - does even ONE of these lifters utilize as much range of motion as me? Even ONE?

^ ALL experienced lifters, with KinoBody having over a MILLION subscribers, and EVERY SINGLE ONE has a more limited range of motion than me.

In fact, I've been searching YouTube all day, and can't find ANY examples of people using a greater range of motion on dumbbells of 100-lb or heavier.

And that's what really grinds my gears here - I have a press which is no doubt on of the strongest on Getbig, and I post a video with form SLIGHTLY off, and all anyone does is shit one when not ONE of those criticizing me can lift the same weight?

I'm sorry, but fuck that. I am receptive to constructive criticism, but when you have B. Hank telling me I need to go down a foot lower on my presses [something PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for me to do], and Walter Sobchak calling me a "weakling" - AGAIN, FOR A LIFT EASILY IN THE TOP 10 ON THIS BOARD RIGHT NOW - I take issue with that!

Polite, constructive criticism, I can handle, no problem. Insults, and exaggerations on my form which was not great, but was certain not bad, is another matter entirely.

then start all over with every excuse imaginable for why you aren't eating properly, why you continue to do this and that because "hey, something must be right in my training know-how, because I just lifted this!"

Begging the Question defined. 

I think you do train hard.  That's good.  But as we've all told you, lots of the sets you've filmed are ugly and not optimal for any purpose, be they for strength or hypertrophy (and there needn't be the implicit dichotomy there between that you constantly harp on, but that's another story). 

I wish you well, but until you manage to get your head into this, we're all wasting our time offering you advice.  You never listen.  You don't even listen to YOURSELF, for God's sake.  If you did, your posts easily would be half again smaller.  All you gotta do to start is stop repeating the same goddamned point two or three times in one message.

That's all.  Be well, Matt.

No, you're not wasting time offering me advice, Titus. Not you, nor anyone else.

But if people are going to be assholes, suggesting I have a full FOOT left to lower the dumbbells, or that I am a weakling, etc, of course I'm not going to listen.

On one hand, people are saying I'm cheating and getting more reps by not going deep enough, but then I post a video of Eddie Hall doing reps, not ONE OF WHICH was locked out...and not one person mentions that HE is saving energy by never locking out, and that his technique is "perfect no lock form".

Huh? 

So let me get this straight:

Next week, if I did the same lift again with the same weight, went LOWER for each rep, but didn't lock out, and ended up getting roughly the same number of reps...would people be ok with that?

If I had to guess...I'd say people would NOT be ok with that, and people would be trashing me for not locking out!!!

Also, you said that my form wasn't going to help me get stronger or bigger. I'd argue that my form does indeed make me get stronger - after all, I did get to a 345 bench press [320 in contest form] by doing what I did. How much stronger would I possibly have gotten at my weight, had I done all these refined techniques?

My training is fine. Not perfect - but fine. But WHY THE FUCK would I focus on changing something which is already fine, and which is NOT the deficit?

My lack of calories is, and always has been, my deficit.

But anyway, Titus: I do take advice, INCLUDING training advice, if it's good advice. So despite B. Hank being an asshole and suggesting I have a foot left to go on those shoulder presses [bullshit], I will be taking his advice and lowering it by 2-3 inches next time.

I also now see that I have weak wrists. I will have to figure out how to strengthen them.

I don't mind being told my form is a bit off - but for B. Hank to say I need to go a full FOOT lower, and that I wouldn't even be able to get one rep with the 100-lb dumbbells is BULLSHIT. I can literally do rest/pause sets with the 100's, for probably two reps at two seconds pause between reps.

It's one thing to say "Lower the weight to get full reps - although you will get a few fewer reps if you do that." It's another thing entirely for him to suggest I can't handle pressing 100-lb dumbbells, which I OBVIOUSLY FUCKING CAN DO as clearly shown in the video!

But ONLY ON GETBIG, can a person be in the top 0.05% of pressing strength in the world, and he trashed for it. 

What's more is that I have been nothing but respectful and complimentive to B. Hank, and he responds like an asshole like that, attacking me on my strength level which I have BEYOND proven myself on.

[Matt]

Bwahahahahahaha….you can’t lift the weights, you won’t take advice, and your steroid cycle only added bloat and water. You’ve hit the loser trifecta!

Even bhankins is calling you out on your bullshit.

I can just see you and Arce Rehaluk sitting around this winter in the pigsty basement of your mommy’s house crying about how the world is unfair to retards.

Bwahahahahahaha!

Reading your posts, the first thing that comes to mind is that you are delusional. But you are actually lying.

I put on 27-lb from 16mg Anadrol. That's the best that anyone would hope to have put on, and is exactly what I wanted. If you used 16mg of Anadrol daily for two months, you would get the exact same result, in the beat case scenario. Maybe you'd only gain 15-lb.

My response is exactly what I expected.

My current body fat percentage - which is lower than 95% of men of any age - is a healthy weight to be. I'm not willing to run fat-burners and mess up my heart to take that down a shade.

I'm fine being more muscular, leaner, and stronger than 95% of men.

But just one question, Walter - regarding strength:

I can get t he 100-lb dumbbells for 10 reps on the overhead press at my best [on a good day].

How many reps can you do overhead with the 100's, Walter?

[Matt]

This is my depth on my WORST rep - literally before my last successful rep:



^ That is form you can be critical of, but even then, I don't have a FOOT left to go down there. Even THAT rep MAY be six inches.

Furthermore, NATURALLY the rep range will diminish as you do more reps! Anyone who has done an 8-rep max would know that.

As for the rep being shaky...shaky reps are still completed reps.  As for WHY my reps are shaky - I would assume my stabilizer muscles need to adjust to heavier weight for lower reps. Which they will now that I'll be training heavy week after week.

And here is what my earlier reps looked like:



I don't care what ANYONE says - there is NOTHING wrong with that form, and go watch ANY video of anyone doing an 8-rep max on YouTube, and they ALL have worse form than that.

[Matt]

https://youtu.be/CdF3p8SQ4pU

^ And meanwhile,  IN THE REAL WORLD, and not in Getbig LA LA Land, EVERYONE lifting 100-lb dumbbells or heavier is using a more limited range of motion than me.

Only on Getbig, can a handful of people - NOT ONE OF WHOM IS STRONGER THAN ME - trash my form.

I mean, what the fuck, it's ONLY 100-lb dumbbells overhead for REPS. Because soooo many people can do that, right?

Right?!

 

As for the bodybuilding advice - I'm training for strength now.  And my lifting like I do will make me stronger.

Next week, I'll get 10 reps with the same form. So I will get stronger.

Keep in mind, I'm not on some wussy bodybuilding program like B. Hank - so going very low using 100+ pound dumbbells will put strain on my rotator cuffs.

So I won't risk going much lower.

[Matt]

THAT DEPTH IS ABSOLUTELY A FOOT TOO HIGH THE DUMBELLS SHOULD BE RESTING ON YOUR GODAMN SHOULDERS AT THE BOTTOM YOU DO NOT APPEAR TO KNOW HOW TO TRAIN AT ALL TOTAL EGO NO CONNECTION

DO YOU NOT SEE YOUR WRIST BENDING 45 DEGREES? DO THOSE DUMBELLLS LOOK HORIZONTOL??? BRING THEM OUT AND DOWN AND KEEP YOUR FOREARM STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN

It literally physically CANNOT be a foot too high.

This is the distance I could go down - anything close to this would be fine:



Do you have ANY idea how much lower a foot is??

My forearm itself is only 10-11" long - are saying I could somehow lower the dumbbell down to where my elbow is?!

The yellow dots represent maybe 11", max - now tell me: HOW THE FUCK COULD I PHYSICALLY LOWER THE DUMBBELL DOWN TO THE TOP OF MY ABS?

Well...if I had abs. 😂

But seriously - HOW COULD I DO THAT? It's physically impossible!!

That's why I maintain - 2-3 more inches lower would have been perfectly fine.

That being said, there is NOTHING significantly off about my form in the first place! And watching instructional videos on YouTube, as well as videos from all sorts of lifters using an even LOWER range of motion proved to me exactly that.

And on top of that - who the fuck are you to criticize my strength? I'M STRONGER THAN YOU, FOR FUCK'S SAKE. And I got to this strength level by not even using ideal form, apparently.

So imagine how much stronger than you I'd be if I cleaned up my form?

Anyway, I had supported you this entire time, and said nothing but positive things about you, B. Hank. But seeing you as a jealous asshole [sucks to see someone lift what you can't...I know...] who felt the need to criticize me for no reason, all I will say is:

Go fuck yourself!

If you don't have anything positive to say, don't address my post.

It's one thing to say "Lower the depth on your presses - but you likely have to use lower weight." It's another thing entirely to say "You're a foot too high on your form. You need to lower the weight, and you won't be able to get that weight at all."

Furthermore - I CAN PRESS 100-LB DUMBBELLS, LITERALLY WITH A 2-5 SECOND PAUSE.

So for you to say I can't get that weight is absolute BALDERDASH.

Here is an photo of my forearm, which offers objective proof that there is NO WAY that I can go down another foot, lol.

2-3 inches is fine. If I wanted to put unnecessary strain on my rotator cuffs, I'd go lower, but that just puts me at risk for injury. A couple inches lower is fine. Like I said, 2-3", max.

B. Hank - so you're saying I'm supposed to lower the dumbbell all the way down to the lower yellow dot?

YOU STUPID FUCK, HOW WOULD THAT EVEN PHYSICALLY BE POSSIBLE?

Fucking moron!

[dj181]

And this is why I can't take what you are saying seriously - I JUST FUCKING CAN'T.

The results I got from 15mg of Anadrol are EXACTLY THE RESULTS ANYONE WOULD GET.

As for facial float - have you bothered looking at the faces of any competitive pro bodybuilders or Strongmen?

They ALWAYS hold water in their face. And this is partially why I oh rarely used gear. It is NOT worth it to me to run gear if the side effects include having a puffy face, having pimples on my back, or LOSING MY HAIR.

I can say this most sincerely: I would rather keep my hairline than to have a perfect body, even if I could snap my fingers and have it, but at the cost of my hair.

Screw that!

Judging by how I look at 170-210, as far as I can tell, I can be as heavy as 210 without suffering too much face bloat. While my face bloat is NOTHING like your extremely exaggerated depiction of it, it is still more than I would personally want.

Which tells me that 190 may be the optimal body weight.

Also, do you think people will take seriously things you tell them when you massively exaggerate the facts? I can accept that I am holding water due to the minimal Anadrol I ran - but to suggest that I have some our of control water issue. I mean, come on.

But that's the thing - you just need to take their opportunity to be an asshole to me rather than just point to the areas I need to improve upon, and advise on them. I listen to all advice here IF I think it will help me.

I DO NOT think my form on the dumbbell press needs to be radically changed, so...I'm not going to radically change it. I will take my depth down a few inches, but certainly not a "foot" - which I literally can't go down that far anyway.

My dumbbell shoulder press reps were NOT that bad, and nothing you say is going to make me say that they were very bad. I could go down a few more inches - maybe - but my reps were ok.

CASE IN POINT - look at these other videos of people pressing similarly heavy weights. Now tell me, Titus - does even ONE of these lifters utilize as much range of motion as me? Even ONE?

^ ALL experienced lifters, with KinoBody having over a MILLION subscribers, and EVERY SINGLE ONE has a more limited range of motion than me.

In fact, I've been searching YouTube all day, and can't find ANY examples of people using a greater range of motion on dumbbells of 100-lb or heavier.

And that's what really grinds my gears here - I have a press which is no doubt on of the strongest on Getbig, and I post a video with form SLIGHTLY off, and all anyone does is shit one when not ONE of those criticizing me can lift the same weight?

I'm sorry, but fuck that. I am receptive to constructive criticism, but when you have B. Hank telling me I need to go down a foot lower on my presses [something PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for me to do], and Walter Sobchak calling me a "weakling" - AGAIN, FOR A LIFT EASILY IN THE TOP 10 ON THIS BOARD RIGHT NOW - I take issue with that!

Polite, constructive criticism, I can handle, no problem. Insults, and exaggerations on my form which was not great, but was certain not bad, is another matter entirely.

No, you're not wasting time offering me advice, Titus. Not you, nor anyone else.

But if people are going to be assholes, suggesting I have a full FOOT left to lower the dumbbells, or that I am a weakling, etc, of course I'm not going to listen.

On one hand, people are saying I'm cheating and getting more reps by not going deep enough, but then I post a video of Eddie Hall doing reps, not ONE OF WHICH was locked out...and not one person mentions that HE is saving energy by never locking out, and that his technique is "perfect no lock form".

Huh? 

So let me get this straight:

Next week, if I did the same lift again with the same weight, went LOWER for each rep, but didn't lock out, and ended up getting roughly the same number of reps...would people be ok with that?

If I had to guess...I'd say people would NOT be ok with that, and people would be trashing me for not locking out!!!

Also, you said that my form wasn't going to help me get stronger or bigger. I'd argue that my form does indeed make me get stronger - after all, I did get to a 345 bench press [320 in contest form] by doing what I did. How much stronger would I possibly have gotten at my weight, had I done all these refined techniques?

My training is fine. Not perfect - but fine. But WHY THE FUCK would I focus on changing something which is already fine, and which is NOT the deficit?

My lack of calories is, and always has been, my deficit.

But anyway, Titus: I do take advice, INCLUDING training advice, if it's good advice. So despite B. Hank being an asshole and suggesting I have a foot left to go on those shoulder presses [bullshit], I will be taking his advice and lowering it by 2-3 inches next time.

I also now see that I have weak wrists. I will have to figure out how to strengthen them.

I don't mind being told my form is a bit off - but for B. Hank to say I need to go a full FOOT lower, and that I wouldn't even be able to get one rep with the 100-lb dumbbells is BULLSHIT. I can literally do rest/pause sets with the 100's, for probably two reps at two seconds pause between reps.

It's one thing to say "Lower the weight to get full reps - although you will get a few fewer reps if you do that." It's another thing entirely for him to suggest I can't handle pressing 100-lb dumbbells, which I OBVIOUSLY FUCKING CAN DO as clearly shown in the video!

But ONLY ON GETBIG, can a person be in the top 0.05% of pressing strength in the world, and he trashed for it. 

What's more is that I have been nothing but respectful and complimentive to B. Hank, and he responds like an asshole like that, attacking me on my strength level which I have BEYOND proven myself on.

only the 4th guy did 3/4 reps everyone else did 1/2 reps

[Flexacon]

The titties look pretty good here, but your nipples are uneven. The right one sits almost an inch lower than the left.

Would not hit

[Matt]

only the 4th guy did 3/4 reps everyone else did 1/2 reps

Thank you, dj181. I agree.

And I must say - the range of motion they used surprised even me. I mean, I knew my range of motion wasn't perfect, and naturally, reps tend to get looser as they go on...but I didn't think my reps were perfect, by any means.

Then I watched those videos, and it's apparent to me that most people pressing dumbbells of 100-lb or more tend to do 1/2 reps or 3/4 reps.

Not to justify it - I know my reps aren't perfect. But all things considered, I think they are ok.

[Matt]

42% bodyfat and a 15-inch arm.

Maybe steroids don’t work as well as we all thought…

HAHAHAHAHA, you absolute stupid fuck. I was 14.7% on the Dexa Scan, which is THE best body fat measurement device there is.

Whatever I am now, it's between 14-18%.

But why don't you start putting your money where your mouth is?

How much do you want to bet that I'm between 15-20% body fat? It could be lower, but not by much. And NO ONE on this board is under 10% right now, aside from maybe Tommy. Possibly Coach.

So I am in the exact same body fat range as EVERY OTHER PERSON HERE. And no doubt lower than some.

But - would you be willing to send Ron the cash for me to get my body fat tested? I will send him the money too.

Then whoever wins, gets all the money.

You stupid piece of shit. Put your money where your mouth is.

[dj181]

Thank you, dj181. I agree.

And I must say - the range of motion they used surprised even me. I mean, I knew my range of motion wasn't perfect, and naturally, reps tend to get looser as they go on...but I didn't think my reps were perfect, by any means.

Then I watched those videos, and it's apparent to me that most people pressing dumbbells of 100-lb or more tend to do 1/2 reps or 3/4 reps.

Not to justify it - I know my reps aren't perfect. But all things considered, I think they are ok.

this dude knows what's up and this is how you do it

as he says most guys make it a very high incline press and not a true shoulder press