Question for my most knowledgeable Getbigger pals

[BlackMetallic]

Where does Nubain place in this question

[Freemason]

Nalbuphine (no longer manufactured under the brand name Nubain) is an unscheduled medication in a class of its own. Actually quite effective only available as an injection or IV med. typically IM. We used it pretty frequently as an alternative to Toradol and it is impressive. Not generally tested for in screenings as well. Still quite available and in certain circles very popular. Not an opiate it is still quite addictive.

[wes]

be thankful that some thing blows it

ZING !!! 

[bhank]

Cold Ice Therapy is actually more effective than drugs for pain reduction

[joswift]

Cold Ice Therapy is actually more effective than drugs for pain reduction

fucking moron

you literally have no idea

Ice for immedaite injuries heat therapy for long term

Ice reduces inflammation

[Kwon]

Fentanyl (most powerful with most risk)
Dilaudid
Demerol
Tramadol
Nalbuphine (Artist formerly known as Nubain, in a class of it's own)

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

What is the most effective and strongest painkiller there is (that also has a high risk of getting addicted to?)

Oxy

[pamith]

Aspirin.

Bro...

[El Diablo Blanco]

Anacin or Robitussin

[Flexacon]

I like how no one even asks why the question is being asked.

Getbig is a special place. No homo

[Van_Bilderass]

What hooks someone can be individual. Someone said earlier that tramadol is probably the safest but remember, tramadol led ESFitness to heroin, dilaudid etc.

I can't rank them although I would guess codeine would be the least dangerous in my case.

Gotta be careful...

[OneMoreRep]

Agree with everything Freemason has stated so far.

From top to bottom:

Fentanyl
Heroin (illegal, but is in fact an opioid)
Dilaudid
Oxymorphone
Methadone
Oxycodone (studies suggest there is no remarkable difference identified either in analgesic efficacy or in tolerability between oxycodone and morphine)
Morphine
Hydrocodone
Codeine
Meperidine (ie Demerol)
Tramadol (centrally acting synthetic opioid)

I would stay away from these drugs, as they can lead to cardiac arrhythmias, depress your respiratory rate and ultimately lead to death. They can also cause terrible constipation, which sucks. Additionally, long term use can mess with your hormones (Testosterone).

If the pain you're experiencing is more muscle or bone related by way of inflammation following say Orthopedic surgery, consider alternating between Acetaminophen (up to 4 grams per day, say 1000mg every 6hrs) with an NSAID (Naproxen can work, but if you can get a healthcare buddy to start an IV, Toradol works like a charm) throughout the day.

Anyhow, best of luck!

"1"

[SGT BARNES]

bullet to brain is fastest and most effective painkiller.

[Kwon]

Thanks everyone and OneMoreRep!

[bhank]

fucking moron

you literally have no idea

Ice for immedaite injuries heat therapy for long term

Ice reduces inflammation

Immediate or not Ice is more effective than opiates I have had half a dozen orthopedic surgeries I know what I am talking about. Ice will numb away the pain you will feel nothing on enough ice. You will still feel pain no matter how much opiates you take.

[webstar]

Immediate or not Ice is more effective than opiates I have had half a dozen orthopedic surgeries I know what I am talking about. Ice will numb away the pain you will feel nothing on enough ice. You will still feel pain no matter how much opiates you take.

Is this what you learned in your court ordered NA meetings?

[ThisisOverload]

Immediate or not Ice is more effective than opiates I have had half a dozen orthopedic surgeries I know what I am talking about. Ice will numb away the pain you will feel nothing on enough ice. You will still feel pain no matter how much opiates you take.

This is one of your top five dumbest posts.

[ThisisOverload]

What hooks someone can be individual. Someone said earlier that tramadol is probably the safest but remember, tramadol led ESFitness to heroin, dilaudid etc.

I can't rank them although I would guess codeine would be the least dangerous in my case.

Gotta be careful...

200mg Tramadol would hit really hard.

Damn.

All i used when I've had surgery is Tramadol because i don't like the spaced out feeling of other pain killers.

I was taking 150-200mg per day, 50mg at a time.

The problem i have with it is that it seems to interrupt sleep.

[Phantom Spunker]

Kwon, are you battling cancer, suffering from a broken bone, or simply just trying to assuage the anguish that's arising from growing old and realising that a lonely and undignified death looms closer with each passing year?

If it's a broken bone, you should try ice. For cancer, just insert the ice rectally. If it's existential dread, also insert the ice rectally but take a big dose of dihydrocodeine, too. You'll be back on your feet in no time.

[Taffin]

Waiting for the resident dopehead / liar ESF to arrive and put this issue to bed.

Yeah, that video above reminded me of a really detailed and intredasting thread about all this stuff a couple of years back Edit: FIVE YEARS AGO FFS!! (strongest opiate, etc)

Alcohol + Opiates + Benzodiazepines

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=633126.0


And ESF was doing some solid work in it - example below

Which is exactly why I went to heroin. I have been clean from opiates since 2001 when I had a shoulder back neck injury, also found Out i had degenerative disc disease in my neck and degenerated discs from c4-c7 comma in 2012/2013 and was prescribed Tramadol (I'd declined Oxycodone slash Percocet, Vicodin, and tylenol3 codeine from the doctor). I agreed to the Tramadol believing it was non addictive because that's what I used to detox myself from nubain in 2001. Doctor prescribed eight tablets per day, however after a while I was not liking side effects and out of fear of serotonin syndrome I weaned myself down to 3 tablets per day. Like I said before 3, maybe 4 tablets per day 150 mg total was the lowest dose I could get to without going into withdrawal. Even 2.5 tablets would put me in withdrawal. Since Tramadol at the time wasn't a scheduled drug or whatever I accepted it that was something I would just have to live with since it wasn't a difficult drug to get in case I ran out too soon or whatever. I could get 180 tablets every 3weeks and i could order online and have it delivered Next Day Air (cash-on-delivery/C.O.D. even first & only thing I've ever bought "COD" btw lol)... Then the gov't scheduled it and required a doctor visit for every refill and limited how much and how often you could get. After a while my stockpile ran out and I had to go to the doctor for a refill and he wrote the script for 3 tabs per day but only enough for 3 weeks (I've talked about this here before), and the next available appointment for a refill wasn't for another 4 or maybe 5 weeks (I forget). Just dumb luck day one or two of withdrawal a client happened to have Dilaudid which help me over for a month.. Long story short, I switched to heroin.. Believing it would be much stronger and I would #1, get more "bang for the buck", & #2 have be much easier to get. Since I wouldn't have to rely on finding people with pain killer prescriptions and being first in line to buy their supply

[Taffin]

Kwon, are you battling cancer, suffering from a broken bone, or simply just trying to assuage the anguish that's arising from growing old and realising that a lonely and undignified death looms closer with each passing year?

If it's a broken bone, you should try ice. For cancer, just insert the ice rectally. If it's existential dread, also insert the ice rectally but take a big dose of dihydrocodeine, too. You'll be back on your feet in no time.

If somebody pushed ice up my arse, I'd spring to my feet immediately!!!!

[Primemuscle]

Fentanyl (most powerful with most risk)
Dilaudid
Demerol
Tramadol
Nalbuphine (Artist formerly known as Nubain, in a class of it's own)

I was given liquid Valium (Diazepam) yesterday prior to having cataract surgery. -Stuff tastes foul.

[Freemason]

200mg Tramadol would hit really hard.

Damn.

All i used when I've had surgery is Tramadol because i don't like the spaced out feeling of other pain killers.

I was taking 150-200mg per day, 50mg at a time.

The problem i have with it is that it seems to interrupt sleep.

Yes I also have great difficulty sleeping on tramadol. Interesting side effect is also very difficult to orgasm on even 50mg of tramadol. Does not affect erection so you can literally fuck all night on tramadol. Little known off label use is for premature ejaculation. Just a side note fyi.

[Freemason]

I was given liquid Valium (Diazepam) yesterday prior to having cataract surgery. -Stuff tastes foul.

Tasted foul because liquid Valium usually given anally.

[ThisisOverload]

Interesting side effect is also very difficult to orgasm on even 50mg of tramadol. Does not affect erection so you can literally fuck all night on tramadol. Little known off label use is for premature ejaculation. Just a side note fyi.

I noticed the same.

Confirmed.