Author Topic: Frank McGrath's Near Death Experience. (Read 5500 times)

bhank · « **Reply #50 on:** January 06, 2024, 08:00:16 AM »

Quote from: Matt on January 04, 2024, 02:12:50 PM

I had no idea you didn't start competing until your forties, wes! Wow - good outcome for having started at a later age than the norm.

I remember one of the IFBB pro diet coaches told me when Troy Alves still won a show as late as 2013 [almost 47 years old - the Orlando Pro in the 212-lb class] that Troy could have put about 10- to 15-lb more muscle, but made a conscious choice not to, for health reasons.

I figured you may have also made a similar choice, and didn't push it, just as Troy made that choice.

Frank doesn't seem to be concerned about risks, and I'm worried he won't be around much longer if he keeps doing this.

He started competing in his 40s in the 155lb division think about it not exactly an open heavyweight his trophies mean nothing

mphgrove · « **Reply #51 on:** January 06, 2024, 08:02:28 AM »

Screw that response, lots of solid Masters competitors who started late. And, on average, by that age they have more self-protective instincts compared to the guys in their twenties.

beakdoctor · « **Reply #52 on:** January 06, 2024, 08:05:30 AM »

Quote from: bhank on January 06, 2024, 08:00:16 AM

He started competing in his 40s in the 155lb division think about it not exactly an open heavyweight his trophies mean nothing

Why do they mean nothing?

bhank · « **Reply #53 on:** January 06, 2024, 08:08:10 AM »

Quote from: mphgrove on January 06, 2024, 08:02:28 AM

Screw that response, lots of solid Masters competitors who started late. And, on average, by that age they have more self-protective instincts compared to the guys in their twenties.

And Wes wasn't one of them. He competed in local shows in the over 40 under 155lb division then went to nationals and got beat up. He is also not 5 foot 2. His legs make mine look massive. Just like Jeff he has a bunch of trophies because he did a bunch of shit shows in the munchkin division. However trophies do not make the physique. They are both fake as fuck they have 100 trophies each and no muscle.

Rambone · « **Reply #54 on:** January 06, 2024, 10:40:03 AM »

Quote from: bhank on January 06, 2024, 08:08:10 AM

And Wes wasn't one of them. He competed in local shows in the over 40 under 155lb division then went to nationals and got beat up. He is also not 5 foot 2. His legs make mine look massive. Just like Jeff he has a bunch of trophies because he did a bunch of shit shows in the munchkin division. However trophies do not make the physique. They are both fake as fuck they have 100 trophies each and no muscle.

These are harsh criticisms. Surely these men won’t take kindly to such disrespect.

mphgrove · « **Reply #55 on:** January 06, 2024, 11:06:14 AM »

Quote from: Rambone on January 06, 2024, 10:40:03 AM

These are harsh criticisms. Surely these men won’t take kindly to such disrespect.

As far as this Board goes, there may be a handfull who are national level or professionals here (a few) but a much larger do the local “shit shows” as you put it. So in leveling this specific criticism, you are aiming straight at this Board’s membership, the many here who actually compete. They don’t necessarily see themselves as Cutler or Heath or Ramy, but their state or local level trophies are in no way meaningless. And are you professional, Mr. Hank?

TheGrinch · « **Reply #56 on:** January 06, 2024, 11:13:32 AM »

hope the window seat person as wearing their seatbelt

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Matt · « **Reply #57 on:** January 06, 2024, 05:57:05 PM »

Quote from: bhank on January 06, 2024, 08:08:10 AM

And Wes wasn't one of them. He competed in local shows in the over 40 under 155lb division then went to nationals and got beat up. He is also not 5 foot 2. His legs make mine look massive. Just like Jeff he has a bunch of trophies because he did a bunch of shit shows in the munchkin division. However trophies do not make the physique. They are both fake as fuck they have 100 trophies each and no muscle.

Isn't wes 5'8"?

Apparently we lose 1cm every 10 years starting at age 40. So presumably, a man could lose about one inch by age 65.

Regarding which bodybuilding shows matter and which don't - Frank McGrath competed in the Mr. Olympia contest, which is the pinnacle of bodybuilding contests. But were his choices better than those of wes, given where he is now?

I think there are more important things than competing in the highest prestige shows, especially if they come with massive health risks. Not to suggest anyone could be at that level, but some people consciously choose to keep their body weight in the optimal health range.

Couldn't wes have just ran mega-cycles if he wanted to add more size? I assume he made the conscious choice to maintain a lower body weight and not mega-dose, whereas Frank McGrath and others did the opposite.

wes · « **Reply #58 on:** January 06, 2024, 07:55:37 PM »

I did over 60 contests......here are some of the shittier ones listed.

Trophies mean nothing,but if I recall correctly I have 57 of them and another guy who posts here who has tried many times to win even one trophy has always ended up winning ZERO.

I mean they must mean something to the aforementioned person or why would he keep trying to win ONE............. yet still has failed to even place?

SHITTY CONTESTS OF PEACE

Tim Wescott

1995

Southern States - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 1st

1999

Massachusetts Championships - NPC, LightWeight, 2nd
Massachusetts Championships - NPC, Masters, 2nd
Southern States - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 1st

2000

Massachusetts Championships - NPC, LightWeight, 1st
Massachusetts Championships - NPC, Masters, 3rd
Masters Nationals - NPC, LightWeight, 4th
Southern States - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 1st

2001

Masters Nationals - NPC, LightWeight, 5th
New England Championships - NPC, LightWeight, 4th
New England Championships - NPC, Masters, 4th

2002

Atlantic States Championships - NPC, Masters 45+, 3rd
New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 2nd
New England Championships - NPC, MiddleWeight, 7th

2003

Massachusetts Championships - NPC, Masters, 1st
Massachusetts Championships - NPC, MiddleWeight, 4th
New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 4th

2005

Masters Nationals - NPC, Masters 50+ MiddleWeight, 7th
Masters Nationals - NPC, MiddleWeight, Did not place
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 50+, 3rd
USA Nationals - NABBA, Medium, 2nd

2006

New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 4th
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 50+ Short, 2nd

2007

New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 4th
New England Championships - NPC, MiddleWeight, 4th
New York Metro Championships - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 4th
New York Metro Championships - NPC, Masters 45+, 5th
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 40+ Short, 3rd
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 50+ Short, 2nd

2011

Masters Nationals - NPC, Masters 50+ LightWeight, 8th
North American Championships - IFBB, Masters 40+ WelterWeight, 7th
North American Championships - IFBB, Masters 50+ WelterWeight, 7th
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 40+ Short, 3rd
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 50+ Short, 3rd

wes · « **Reply #59 on:** January 06, 2024, 07:57:47 PM »

^^^^^^ ALL TERRIBLE LOCAL SHITTY CONTESTS !!

I feel so ashamed of myself,I may just start posting on FACEBOOK !

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Walter Sobchak · « **Reply #60 on:** January 06, 2024, 08:01:29 PM »

Quote from: bhank on January 06, 2024, 08:08:10 AM

And Wes wasn't one of them. He competed in local shows in the over 40 under 155lb division then went to nationals and got beat up. He is also not 5 foot 2. His legs make mine look massive. Just like Jeff he has a bunch of trophies because he did a bunch of shit shows in the munchkin division. However trophies do not make the physique. They are both fake as fuck they have 100 trophies each and no muscle.

You have finished Dead Fucking Last (DFL) in every show you have entered.

You have no trophies.

Six weeks off the drugs completely and you would have no muscle.

In a year you will have no wife and half your current assets.

Your complete detachment from reality is a sign of mental illness.

wes · « **Reply #61 on:** January 06, 2024, 08:09:36 PM »

Quote from: Walter Sobchak on January 06, 2024, 08:01:29 PM

You have finished Dead Fucking Last (DFL) in every show you have entered.

You have no trophies.

Six weeks off the drugs completely and you would have no muscle.

In a year you will have no wife and half your current assets.

Your complete detachment from reality is a sign of mental illness.

The millionaire who is a total loser at every endeavor he tries out for.

Money can`t buy you balls !

Skiing The Swiss Alps Of Peace While Existing On Hot Dogs Alone

Lived in the tough city of New York, and grew up hanging and banging when he was all of 6 years old before his family moved to the estate.

This soft twat wouldn`t have survived an hour in my shoes at any age or stage of my life !!

Little Lord Fantleroy Of Peace LOL

Walter Sobchak · « **Reply #62 on:** January 06, 2024, 08:27:10 PM »

Quote from: wes on January 06, 2024, 08:09:36 PM

The millionaire who is a total loser at every endeavor he tries out for.

Money can`t buy you balls !

Skiing The Swiss Alps Of Peace While Existing On Hot Dogs Alone

Lived in the tough city of New York, and grew up hanging and banging when he was all of 6 years old before his family moved to the estate.

This soft twat wouldn`t have survived an hour in my shoes at any age or stage of my life !!

Little Lord Fantleroy Of Peace LOL

His story changes to suit the discussion at hand.

Hankins tries to inflate his accomplishments by criticizing the accomplishments of others.

Untether from his bullshit and he will lack the attention he craves to survive here.

Zillotch · « **Reply #63 on:** January 06, 2024, 08:41:59 PM »

Quote from: wes on January 06, 2024, 07:55:37 PM

Tim Wescott

no bloof on this guy.. looks phenomenal - good structure

wes · « **Reply #64 on:** January 06, 2024, 09:01:00 PM »

Quote from: Zillotch on January 06, 2024, 08:41:59 PM

no bloof on this guy.. looks phenomenal - good structure

Thank you.

beakdoctor · « **Reply #65 on:** January 06, 2024, 09:04:26 PM »

Wes actual bodybuilder with decades of experience in competition, training and diet.

Bhanks a gymrat who enters anything he can collect a last place medal in just to lie about it later.

mops · « **Reply #66 on:** January 06, 2024, 09:16:42 PM »

Quote from: wes on January 06, 2024, 07:55:37 PM

Powerful & classic looking build. Master poser as well.

Wes reminds me of a bodybuilding-jacked and shredded version of Michael Newman from Baywatch (no homo.)

Matt · « **Reply #67 on:** January 06, 2024, 09:36:59 PM »

Quote from: wes on January 06, 2024, 07:55:37 PM

I did over 60 contests......here are some of the shittier ones listed.

Trophies mean nothing,but if I recall correctly I have 57 of them and another guy who posts here who has tried many times to win even one trophy has always ended up winning ZERO.

I mean they must mean something to the aforementioned person or why would he keep trying to win ONE............. yet still has failed to even place?

SHITTY CONTESTS OF PEACE

Tim Wescott

1995

Southern States - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 1st

1999

Massachusetts Championships - NPC, LightWeight, 2nd
Massachusetts Championships - NPC, Masters, 2nd
Southern States - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 1st

2000

Massachusetts Championships - NPC, LightWeight, 1st
Massachusetts Championships - NPC, Masters, 3rd
Masters Nationals - NPC, LightWeight, 4th
Southern States - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 1st

2001

Masters Nationals - NPC, LightWeight, 5th
New England Championships - NPC, LightWeight, 4th
New England Championships - NPC, Masters, 4th

2002

Atlantic States Championships - NPC, Masters 45+, 3rd
New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 2nd
New England Championships - NPC, MiddleWeight, 7th

2003

Massachusetts Championships - NPC, Masters, 1st
Massachusetts Championships - NPC, MiddleWeight, 4th
New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 4th

2005

Masters Nationals - NPC, Masters 50+ MiddleWeight, 7th
Masters Nationals - NPC, MiddleWeight, Did not place
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 50+, 3rd
USA Nationals - NABBA, Medium, 2nd

2006

New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 4th
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 50+ Short, 2nd

2007

New England Championships - NPC, Masters 40+, 4th
New England Championships - NPC, MiddleWeight, 4th
New York Metro Championships - NPC, Masters 35+ LightWeight, 4th
New York Metro Championships - NPC, Masters 45+, 5th
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 40+ Short, 3rd
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 50+ Short, 2nd

2011

Masters Nationals - NPC, Masters 50+ LightWeight, 8th
North American Championships - IFBB, Masters 40+ WelterWeight, 7th
North American Championships - IFBB, Masters 50+ WelterWeight, 7th
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 40+ Short, 3rd
USA Nationals - NABBA, Masters 50+ Short, 3rd

Great resume, Tim!

B. Hank made it a point to tell me "There is no 160-lb Strongman", just to diminish what I do.

Specifically, I competed in u-200-lb Strongman contests, and the CAASA organization in Canada started an 80-kg [176.4-lb] class in 2016.

B. Hank called it "160-lb Strongman" just to diminish it. Yes, there is no 160-lb Strongman, but there IS a 176.4-lb class [lightweight], and guys like Tommy Lynn Lovell and Benjamin Donin are strong as hell, and would beat B. Hank at any lift - even if he was at his heaviest weight of 238.6-lb.

That's why I made it a point to publicly challenge him. I would do it giving him a 30-lb weight advantage on me too. Heck...I might even say 50-lb, but I'd be absolutely confident being 190 versus B. Hank's 220.

What I don't understand is:
Can't people throw B. Hank the same shade he has thrown you and I?

Why are HIS contests so special? Couldn't we say "B. Hank hasn't competed in the NPC Nationals, so he isn't a REAL bodybuilder."

?

IMO, some people just prefer not pushing the heavy gear and calories. Bodybuilding [and Strongman/powerlifting] are not exactly healthy ventures at the elite level. And even if you become an IFBB pro, only the Top 10 are making serious money!

Not sure why he judges people for not wanting to do that.

That's why I was wondering if part of your thought process/mindset was health. Presumably you made a conscious decision not to mega-dose gear like Frank McGrath and others did.

Nothing wrong with that. IMO, you made the RIGHT call.

Like I said - I don't envy you there, because bodybuilding is subjective. I'm lucky because for my challenge against him, I just had to put more weight on the bar than B. Hank put on it. Which I did.

I don't understand B. Hank's deal to judge and diminish what you have done.

Bevo · « **Reply #68 on:** January 06, 2024, 09:42:10 PM »

That’s the thing with bhanky, he thinks bbing is all about having mass on top of mass , that’s it. Disregards balance, symmetry

If you are not a heavyweight bber you are nothing in his eyes, typical gym bro mentality

He himself is a natural skinny twink, that’s why he looks up to guys like sam and dick Walker, they are something he is not , who he wishes he was

xpac2 · « **Reply #69 on:** January 06, 2024, 10:02:14 PM »

Wow you still post Wes?!

Rusty Trombone · « **Reply #70 on:** January 06, 2024, 10:13:13 PM »

Quote from: xpac2 on January 06, 2024, 10:02:14 PM

Wow you still post Wes?!

Wes has been alive and posted since way before the times of the Great Flood and will continue long after we are all dead and buried.,fact!

Wes will not die but transform himself into the last star in the Sky! Fact.

Randomum · « **Reply #71 on:** January 06, 2024, 10:20:43 PM »

Quote from: bhank on January 06, 2024, 08:08:10 AM

And Wes wasn't one of them. He competed in local shows in the over 40 under 155lb division then went to nationals and got beat up. He is also not 5 foot 2. His legs make mine look massive. Just like Jeff he has a bunch of trophies because he did a bunch of shit shows in the munchkin division. However trophies do not make the physique. They are both fake as fuck they have 100 trophies each and no muscle.

Only one way to settle this between you and Wes and anyone who wants to throw their hat in the ring. ( Matt? Wiggs? Bigach?) Mr Getbig 2024!!!!!!! Winner gets 1k and if Bhanks doesn’t crack top 3 all competitors get to poop in his mouth. 😅

wes · « **Reply #72 on:** January 07, 2024, 01:12:52 AM »

Quote from: beakdoctor on January 06, 2024, 09:04:26 PM

Wes actual bodybuilder with decades of experience in competition, training and diet.

Bhanks a gymrat who enters anything he can collect a last place medal in just to lie about it later.

Thank you for the kind words doc .

wes · « **Reply #73 on:** January 07, 2024, 01:13:39 AM »

Quote from: Randomum on January 06, 2024, 10:20:43 PM

Only one way to settle this between you and Wes and anyone who wants to throw their hat in the ring. ( Matt? Wiggs? Bigach?) Mr Getbig 2024!!!!!!! Winner gets 1k and if Bhanks doesn’t crack top 3 all competitors get to poop in his mouth. 😅

Dude !!

wes · « **Reply #74 on:** January 07, 2024, 01:14:27 AM »

Quote from: Rusty Trombone on January 06, 2024, 10:13:13 PM

Wes has been alive and posted since way before the times of the Great Flood and will continue long after we are all dead and buried.,fact!

Wes will not die but transform himself into the last star in the Sky! Fact.

Very well stated facts.