Idk if addiction to drugs can be synonymous to suicide. I think often it's living in denial of the consequenses of the drugs, and alot of time accepting the risks involved.. We humans do alot of risky things because it makes us feel good. Some are addicted to adrenaline of fast cars, some climbing buildings, others doing drugs like coke and partying, because they feel good or change their mindset to be more fun and outgoing etc.. Alot of the harder drugs are for coping with a hard life i.e. numbing themselves. Idk but I don't think that's slow suicide in their mind but maybe.
You use steroids, is that slow suicide? Or is it just that you accepted the risks involved, because it's what makes you feel good?
btw. I was suprised you don't hang out with like more people in the "industry"/gym business, because how much you know about steroids/use it etc. But maybe people keep more to themselves especially getting older.
I'm an introvert by nature so I don't "hang out" with many people period

I've gotten to know people in the gym and then some competitors and so on but I'm mostly in the shadows lol. A couple of guys have tried make me start "bodybuilding guruing" but I'm like there's not that much to know and I'm not the guy who pretends there are "secrets" to this

The whole "coaching" industry we see on social media is so much fake balonie, at least to me. But whatever...
You know how they say bodybuilding attracts fucked up people? It's true, and in my case too. I took too many risks with drugs because I was self destructive in a way. So steroids were not completely suicidal for me but there was a self-desrtuctive element for sure. Getbig is very aware of the fucked-uppedness of bodybuilding adjacent groups

Drug use, things like coke can be something you do every now and then and could just as well leave it, at least to some. For some percentage it becomes a problem, I don't know how many percentage-wise. But it doesn't have to be a slow suicide. But I would say that if you take heroin, or the pharma equivalent oxycodone, you are probably in a bad place to start. Because you know beforehand how it can fuck you up. My training partner and myself took some tramadol and then he said he could get some oxycodone, but I was like do you really trust yourself with it? Probably not he said lol. We decided it wasn't worth the risk. I mentioned the opioid epidemic in the US in my post, that devastated whole towns, and "they" link it to loss of industry and jobs and generally poor prospects in life. In these cases it probably isn't just chasing kicks, it's probably that you've given up in a sense but you don't want/dare to end it immediately. Maybe? If anyone else has a different perspective on why people abuse pain killers I want to hear it. Of course there is the % that is addicted through legitimate Rx's but apart from those.
Lartinos mentioned cigarettes... now that is a fucked up thing to start nowadays. Talk about bad risk vs reward ratio. Thankfully it seems like cigarette use had gone down a lot. Now it's the vaping, I don't know if it's a big "problem" society should worry about, probably not. Australia will now ban all the flavored vapes I read.
Anyway, just some thoughts. But very obvious ones I think.
