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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33575 on: August 29, 2007, 03:26:02 PM »

yes, and in order to validate his opinion, he posts a credible source to back up what he says.

you rely on your eyes.

lol.

WHY IS THIS CONCEPT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

Its so hard to understand because he absolutely can not back up his claim lol he just hopes a bunch of people agree with him , thats his proof , he is intellectually bankrupt .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33576 on: August 29, 2007, 03:46:31 PM »
bwahahahaha, where do you come up with this shit? I demonstrated with a ruler that I got 14.5 cm. The only explanation is that our monitors are set to different resolutions.

  Someone has already mentioned that he also got around 11 centimeters. In any case, you posted the measure that you got on your computer screen. That's not in any way, shape or form an accurate measurement. Like I said, the only way to know for sure would be to have the original pic, which I don't have. No omne has posted so far confirming you measure of 15 centimeters, so you have nothing. And you posted a com pletely arbitrary line on Dorian's foreamr and then measured a difference of 4 milimeters to Ronnie's. What is that supposed to prove when the line stops over an area of Dorian's foreamr that is torqued outward?

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what magazine? I got both pics in my comparison from a screen cap.

  That is not accurate. You cannot use the picture from a screencap because that is not the original picture. I think this pic originally appeared on FLEX, but I'm not sure.

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wtf are you talking about? I scaled them to be the same height even though Ronnie is 1" taller in person. This actually favors Dorian.

  Dorian is actually 5'10 and 1/2, but that doesen't matter. My critique is that you adjusted for height but not for depth because you maintained the width that Dorian originally had in the picture so as to make him artificialçly thiner compared to Ronnie. You also did a lousy job photoshopping the bodyparts where Ronnie is not a match fopr Dorian even when you make Dorian artifically thiner by not adjusting for height, like the calves.

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I measured several anatomical landmarks to insure the accuracy of my comparison. If one person was standing much closer to the camera, it would reveal itself. For example, the bottom of the feet and knees would line up but the waist and top of the head would be off. However, we see that everything lines up perfectly. It can be assumed from the pic they are both of equal depth.


  Maybe for height, but not for width. I see the trick you used: get a picture where Dorian is stading more away from the camera than Ronnie, then adjust the depth to make them equally tall and so as to make their feet align somewhat, but maintain the width that Dorian had in the original pic and photoshop the bodyparts where Ronnie can't compare in size even when Dorian is made to look artifically thiner.

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Dorian is facing the camera straight on while Ronnie is slightly turned to the side. If anything, this favors Dorian.

  Observe how Dorian's left foot is slightly turned to the side and how he is more turned forward than Dorian. All of this makes him look wider. Add up to you poor scalling for width, and you get a Ronnie that looks much wider than he is vis-a-vis Dorian Yates. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33577 on: August 29, 2007, 04:05:59 PM »
Funny how we are seeing shots from 97 proving that Dorian Yates is the king of hardness and conditioning.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33578 on: August 29, 2007, 04:27:22 PM »
Funny that we are seeing shots from 97 proving that Dorian Yates is the king of hardness and conditioning.


doesnt matter what year - ronnie never matched dorian's hardness.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33579 on: August 29, 2007, 04:50:02 PM »
Funny how we are seeing shots from 97 proving that Dorian Yates is the king of hardness and conditioning.

yes, and we also see shots of him matching Greg kovacs in overall mediocrity.. ::)

his 97 shape certainly does NOT prove that he is the king of hardness and conditioning.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33580 on: August 29, 2007, 04:51:42 PM »

doesnt matter what year - ronnie never matched dorian's hardness.

more bullshit that can be dispelled by a quick glance at real life:

 ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33581 on: August 29, 2007, 05:02:38 PM »
Maybe in 1998 he perhaps matched Yates for being bone dry and rock hard , surpassed NO WAY and 1999  ::)

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


You are directly contradicting an eyewitness who was feet away from Ronnie , you have nothing.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33582 on: August 29, 2007, 05:10:43 PM »
Maybe in 1998 he perhaps matched Yates for being bone dry and rock hard , surpassed NO WAY and 1999  ::)

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


You are directly contradicting an eyewitness who was feet away from Ronnie , you have nothing.

lol yes, we have nothing.. ::)

its funny, the more you post, the more quotes you post, and the more we prove you and your quotes wrong with real pics from the contests..

 ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33583 on: August 29, 2007, 05:23:23 PM »
lol yes, we have nothing.. ::)

its funny, the more you post, the more quotes you post, and the more we prove you and your quotes wrong with real pics from the contests..

 ::)

Hulkster in all seriousness and honesty are you really a slow adult? you just used the term you proved me wrong with ' real pics from the contest ' I seriously double checked to see if you typed this and sure is shit you did , you have no idea on monumentally insanely stupid this statement is , you're saying that Peter McGough who was live and in person on October 23th , 1999 in Las Vegas Nevada , who was 2 feet away from Ronnie , a man with years of experience having seen almost every Mr Olympia live and in person since Sergio Oliva a one time editor in chief of one of the biggest muscle magazines in the world is wrong and you are right

Hulkster you're insane kid lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33584 on: August 29, 2007, 06:30:50 PM »
did you even LOOK at the shot? ::)

LOL. I don't even think he looked. But hey, it's all good anyway.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33585 on: August 29, 2007, 06:45:13 PM »
But poor arms overall. Infact just downright atrocious for a mr olympia. 

Again as i say if you imagine just the torso without the arms you can see it is great. Just the small biceps and triceps totally ruin this shot.



This is gold-arms atrocious for mr olympia unless your name is Dickerson or Columbu LOL

Ya, imagine the torso without arms and it's all good!  ::)

Here ND trying once again to explain this away.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33586 on: August 29, 2007, 06:51:06 PM »
This is gold-arms atrocious for mr olympia unless your name is Dickerson or Columbu LOL

Ya, imagine the torso without arms and it's all good!  ::)

Here ND trying once again to explain this away.

The pic was from 1996 NOT his best year obviously , like Coleman 2002 . nice try go back to the drawing board

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33587 on: August 29, 2007, 07:02:02 PM »
Looks like the trademark GRANITE-like Hardness of Dorian has got Ronnie beat again

show me where the IFBB criteria asks for "granite-like hardness." You guys just make up terms to give Dorian an advantage. ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33588 on: August 29, 2007, 07:09:25 PM »
show me where the IFBB criteria asks for "granite-like hardness." You guys just make up terms to give Dorian an advantage. ::)

It's called ' definition ' its part and parcel of conditioning ! it's the state of being bone dry and rock hard .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33589 on: August 29, 2007, 07:10:10 PM »
Someone has already mentioned that he also got around 11 centimeters. In any case, you posted the measure that you got on your computer screen. That's not in any way, shape or form an accurate measurement. Like I said, the only way to know for sure would be to have the original pic, which I don't have. No omne has posted so far confirming you measure of 15 centimeters, so you have nothing.

ha ha ha ha, nothing? I have a f*cking pic of my computer monitor with a ruler next to it, you dipshit.

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Dorian is actually 5'10 and 1/2, but that doesen't matter. My critique is that you adjusted for height but not for depth because you maintained the width that Dorian originally had in the picture so as to make him artificialçly thiner compared to Ronnie. You also did a lousy job photoshopping the bodyparts where Ronnie is not a match fopr Dorian even when you make Dorian artifically thiner by not adjusting for height, like the calves.

Dorian is slightly taller in my comparison even though he is 1" shorter in person, and you have the audacity to claim that I scaled it in favor of Ronnie? Now you want to accuse me of using photoshop? Go home, little girl.


 
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Maybe for height, but not for width. I see the trick you used: get a picture where Dorian is stading more away from the camera than Ronnie, then adjust the depth to make them equally tall and so as to make their feet align somewhat, but maintain the width that Dorian had in the original pic and photoshop the bodyparts where Ronnie can't compare in size even when Dorian is made to look artifically thiner.

I measured several anatomical landmarks to insure the accuracy of my comparison. If one person was standing much closer to the camera, it would reveal itself. For example, the bottom of the feet and knees would line up but the waist and top of the head would be off. However, we see that everything lines up perfectly which contradicts your argument.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33590 on: August 29, 2007, 07:12:30 PM »
Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight.

You are directly contradicting an eyewitness who was feet away from Ronnie , you have nothing.

Here is the same "eyewitness" saying Ronnie at his prime is unbeatable. ;)

Peter McGough - Flex, August 2005

"Ronnie sporting that [01 ASC] look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33591 on: August 29, 2007, 07:18:11 PM »
It's called ' definition ' its part and parcel of conditioning ! it's the state of being bone dry and rock hard.

Ronnie had superior separations and striations from head to toe. Who are you to say one - especially something completely subjective as 'hardness' - is more important than the other?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33592 on: August 29, 2007, 07:30:44 PM »
01 ASC Ronnie looked amazing!!! It's no wonder Peter McGough said he is unbeatable.








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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33593 on: August 29, 2007, 07:33:43 PM »
from the back at the 2001 AC:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33594 on: August 29, 2007, 07:34:00 PM »









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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33595 on: August 29, 2007, 07:35:49 PM »
It's called ' definition ' its part and parcel of conditioning ! it's the state of being bone dry and rock hard .

yes it is.

and so are striations.

something that you guys have argued is not important or even judged because it is not specifically stated in the criteria..
lol

caught again in your own desperate arguments.. ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33597 on: August 29, 2007, 07:42:54 PM »
I have yet to see a single shot of dorian that can come close to this kind of shape, detail and quality:


sure, the calves are a flaw.

but the rest is of such a high caliber that even in 1993, dorian could not come close:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33598 on: August 29, 2007, 08:01:09 PM »
Johnnytosh absolutley annihilated Hulksters 1300 pages of arguments easily, with those photos.
Ouch.
So much time wasted on Hulksters part.
Dorian looks fantastic in those 97 pics.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #33599 on: August 29, 2007, 08:08:23 PM »