To be honest, I like that pic of Dorian. He was the man in 1993 before the tear. My point to ND (I don't even bother with Swallowmymonkey) is that pre-tear, i agree that Dorian looked amazing. In 1993, I feel his shape and condition would have beaten Haney if Haney had not improved. However, in 1992, Haney would have taken him easily. From 1994 onward, Dorian did not look as good. He got heavier and he ripped his bi's. Moreover, he looked pregnant and out of sorts. Yes, his back rocked, but he really only looked good one other year after his 93 win (1995). In 1997, he looked like complete ass. I remember a lot of the mainstream bb rags talking about how unaesthetic he looked. He won on his reputation, enough said. Ronnie won in 2001 based on his back alone and reputation. They are even in that sense. I just feel a 2003 Coleman would have eaten Dorian alive. He was 25 to 30 pounds larger, and had his gut in relative check in the mandatory poses (screw the relaxed pics you always pose). Man took muscularity to a whole different era. Flex, Muscular Development and the Canadian mag all stated that was the best anyone ever looked on stage. ND, you get Flex. Read the damn article. I have that mag somewhere around and will try to find it. Later.