Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[benchthis]

wow this thread is still going has it taken out kevins thread yet

[The Ugly]

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[benchthis]

how about we start a thread about who would win in a olympia between dorian and ronnie 

[The Ugly]

how about we start a thread about who would win in a olympia between dorian and ronnie 

As soon as we finish our Dorian/Ronnie debate.

[jandal.ninja]

my friend told me that ronnie made a statement that said he could whoop dorians ass - dorian heard it too through the grapevine and now they are gonna duke it out in july in Birmingham in dorians gym.
this'll be a good fist fight 2 watch - a whale and a walrus going at it will be awesome!

my money is on the whale...

[pumpster]

my friend told me that ronnie made a statement that said he could whoop dorians ass - dorian heard it too through the grapevine and now they are gonna duke it out in july in Birmingham in dorians gym.

You sound like a credible source.

[Hulkster]

wow this thread is still going has it taken out kevins thread yet

I would not be surprised.

Getbig is the premier source on the internet for Construction Worker vs. Ronnie discussions.

[LyricTenor]

The "construction worker" owned ronnie 8 times.. ouch.

[sculpture]

Lyric tenor - why did you change your post?

Because the original post made absolulty no sense!

[pumpster]

Yates has an edge in exactly TWO areas-CALVES & ABS. Same as...DICKERSON. **NICE!**  hahahahahahahahahha

Yates' abs are RIPPED, but are also WIDE.

[sculpture]

nice taper

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[NarcissisticDeity]

look at all these shots. He has great flow and balance in all of them.

why? because he was not 285 pounds.

This is what happens when he gets that heavy:

it all goes out the window.

again, do not confuse the 287 pound ronnie with the peak Ronnie of yesteryear.

ronnie at his peak is a lot more than a collection of freaky parts. he had great flow and great looking lines. Very pleasing to the eye - the proof is right here.

I always laugh when you type Ronnie has ' great flow ' and ' great lines '

Hulkster Ronnie never ever not for one single time in his entire bodybuilding career ever had great lines in the classic bodybuilding sense & and never had great muscle flow , or aesthetics !!

Just because you find Ronnie's physique pleasing to the eye , doesn't mean he fits the aesthetic bodybuilding criteria , notice he didn't even make the top 20 aesthetic bodybuilders list? he's not aesthetic , I'm sorry to burst your bubble !!

And again Ronnie doesn't have a ' great flow ' to his muscles , he doesn't have great muscle balance & proportion , they just don't , his calves are to small for his quads , his ass is to big for his hams , his biceps/triceps make his forearms look small , his biceps/triceps are actually bigger than his delts , his front & side dlets are so overdeveloped they make his chest look small in the side chest , his muscles are exaggerated and very impressive but they simply don't have a great flow from one to the other Chris Cormier has an amazing flow between almost all of his muscles , Ronnie doesn't have this and never did .

[pumpster]

hahahahahahhaha Nice "H" taper..SO MUCH FOR ABS..

[NarcissisticDeity]

nice taper

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Your posting a picture from a contest in which HE BEAT COLEMAN in lol so your ' nice taper ' comment means zero , because he beat Coleman who had a ' great taper ' lol

[FREAKgeek]

So let me get this straight , Ronnie was 250lbs in 1996 gets harder and weighs just one pound less and he gets ' fuller ' his back wider and his taper improves ? lol have you been smoking Jay's crack? WTF , Hulkster how much water did you think Chad helped Ronnie lose? lol 5 gallons? look I'm more than willing to concede Ronnie may have gained a couple of pounds while improving his hardness but it wasn't that big of a difference , he APPEARED fuller , with imrpoved hardness comes the illusion of being bigger than you are , structually is improvements were nil , I bet the farm that his measurements were almost identical in 1996/97 compared to 98 , in 1999 he was most certainly fuller than 96/97/98 but the forementioned were all roughly the same give-or-take a couple of pounds.

Look at this way. In 1997, Nasser, Ray, Levrone, Dillet, Priest, Fux, and Cormier all beat Ronnie. If he did not get better, or to any much significance as you claim, how do you explain him taking the Mr. O the following year which you admit in a prior post that he deserved to win it 98? And he also beat a formidable Flex Wheeler.

[pumpster]

Your posting a picture from a contest in which HE BEAT COLEMAN in lol so your ' nice taper ' comment means zero

More nerdy obsession with data, which COMPLETELY PRETENDS politics had nothing to do with some of the GIFTS the one-armed wonder received..

More parallels in the ongoing Yates-Dickerson series..both with strengths in exactly TWO areas, the all-important ab & calves..

[NarcissisticDeity]

Look at this way. In 1997, Nasser, Ray, Levrone, Dillet, Priest, Fux, and Cormier all beat Ronnie. If he did not get better, or to any much significance as you claim, how do you explain him taking the Mr. O the following year which you admit in a prior post that he deserved to win it 98? And he also beat a formidable Flex Wheeler.

Oh I said his dryness improved but in 1998 his size DID NOT with his improved hardness his appearence changed dramatically but not so much his size or demensions , in 1997 Ronnie was off condition wise , a victim of to many contests , so his conditioning suffered , so as far as size & demensions his change from 96/97 to 98 was not that dramatic , and remember even with less that perfect conditioning in 96 he beat Flex , Taylor , Cormier , Fux , Long , Sarcev , in 1997 with hardness NOT on par with 1998 , he beat , Dillet Priest , Levrone , Nasser , Sarcev , Fux , etc , so in 1996 and 1997 those guys did beat him and at that point he was good enough to return the favor .

[sculpture]

Your posting a picture from a contest in which HE BEAT COLEMAN in lol so your ' nice taper ' comment means zero , because he beat Coleman who had a ' great taper ' lol

Actually it means everything. A riposte to your statement that he had a great taper. Shawn ray, ron coleman, flex wheeler, brian buchanan, paul dillet. These men have great tapers by virtue of their small waists and wide delts.

Dorian doesn't.

Keeping "loling" to yourself chico cos you're the only one who can hear it.

[pumpster]

Keeping "loling" to yourself chico cos you're the only one who can hear it.

hahahahha it's those voices in his head...

Back to more on the ongoing Yates-Dickerson series..equally "overwhelming" side shot..

[sculpture]

The resemblance is uncanny especially in the pec area.

Uncanny

[natural al]

More nerdy obsession with data, which COMPLETELY PRETENDS politics had nothing to do with some of the GIFTS the one-armed wonder received..

More parallels in the ongoing Yates-Dickerson series..both with strengths in exactly TWO areas, the all-important ab & calves..

pumpster, you're really not making any sense anymore...I think you've crossed the line from fan to obsessed dillusional fan.  First weight and individual bodyparts didn't matter now facts don't matter.  I don't know how much you know about bodybuilding but unless you work for weider don't pretend to know the ins and outs of the polotics of bodybuilding.  You might think you know but you probably don't.  Ronnie was just as marketable as anyone else in the top 10 from 95 on..he was in national commercials for Met-Rx so he was probably more well known than most of the guys in the top 6.  Remember that commercial..Ronnie with his very intellegent comments..."I'm thinking if I go down with this weight....I've gotta come back up".  What would anybody gain by keeping him down?  You've been throwing the political shit out there for a long time..I know that politics play a big part in bodybuilding but enlighten me as to what the weiders would gain by keeping Ronnie down?  Considering that Ray, Wheeler and Cormier are all black guys and all did well I don't think that color played a part in Dorian winning any olympia's....Just enlighten me.

[The Ugly]

Cock-a-doodle-doo.

F**k!

[pumpster]

You've been throwing the political shit out there for a long time

You are EXTREMELY naive if you think it's not a big factor-you must work for Weider to even pose the question seriously, given the part it played in the retirements/departures from the IFBB of Oliva, Mentzer, Robinson, Szkalak, Padilla, etc. Most or all of those guys deserved & were denied significant wins in the late 70s, early 80s. I was there, remember it well, and stopped following BB at the time because of the hijinks. Draper sued Weider over some of this, and won.

Educate yourself and your perceptions will improve accordingly, from the fog you currently inhabit.

[natural al]

You are EXTREMELY naive if you think it's not a big factor-YOU must work for Weider to imagine this, given that it played a large part in the retirements/departures from the IFBB of deserving winners like Olivia, Mentzer, Robinson, Szkalak, Padilla, etc. Most or all of those guys deserved wins in the late 70s, early 80s.

Educate yourself and your perceptions will improve accordingly, from the fog you currently inhabit..

sorry slick...never said it didn't play a factor in other peoples involvement in the sport I just want you to tell me why they would do it to Ronnie.   Just doesn't add up.  Since alot of the top guys were black that can't be the reason, he had a marketable body, he was already in well known commercials..he was a cop.  There are way to many positives to him at the time he was not doing really well in the Olympia.  You seem to insinuate tht the only reason he could not beat Dorian when they were on stage was because of politics.  maybe you're right maybe not but I want you to explain to me why it would be in anyones best interest to do this?  Certainly if the IFBB was looking to market someone they would pick a guy like Shawn Ray, very intellegent, good looking, body the general public would accept but he didn't beat Dorian...why?  Maybe, just maybe you're not giving Dorian any credit at all...ever think of that?

[pumpster]

Since alot of the top guys were black that can't be the reason, he had a marketable body, he was already in well known commercials..he was a cop.

GOTTA be smarter man-it's one factor, but not the only one. A grey area that your attempt to think in terms of absolutes will never address.

Some overt examples, since you think in absolutes: Oliva in '72 and in earlier losses, Robinson in the late 70s..enlighten yourself..Fox never winning, in part due to his persona. Padilla never winning because he wasn't Franco.