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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2700 on: May 31, 2006, 02:36:42 PM »
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Seperation - Coleman? lol how about his calves? nope , how about his lower back? nope , how about abs? nope , Dorian has medicore upperquad seperation , other than that not much else

not much else?

LMAO.

How about poorly separated (in comparison to Ronnie):

-quads.
-triceps (dorian's are not striated, Ronnie's were)
-hams (no contest there)
-glutes(see above)
-delts (especially from the front)
-chest (check out ANY Ronnie most muscular and you will see the difference).
-upper back

Here is your supposedly separated Dorian:



and here is the VASTLY more seperated Ronnie:


arms, delts, chest and quads ALL more seperated.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2701 on: May 31, 2006, 02:39:23 PM »
Light years? talk about an overstatement , look at this pic , I think he looks amazing , his midsection is shredded , his abs even look good , his chest looks full and he has cross-striations in his quads something he didn't have in 98 or 99 !! he looks awesome in 1996 and he was competing at 250lbs , so to say he was lightyears away from 98 is not accurate , we're not talking about Ronnie 1992 or 1994 , then you could say he was light years ahead , but not from 1996 on !!

ND, Ronnie does look great in that shot of course. But if you compare every OTHER pose (eg. front double bi, back double bi, lat spreads etc) Ronnie was far ahead in his 98/99 form as compared to his 1996 form. The fact that he filled out made him look totally different, and much better overall.

Hell, just watch those two videos (1997 vs 1999) again if you don't believe me.  Its right there on film.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2702 on: May 31, 2006, 02:47:10 PM »
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One you keep insisting that Yates has no arms , thats a phallacy , his arms in his primes were perfect , you're mistaking his lack of bicep peaks as weak arms , and thats just plain wrong

Perfect arms? WTF?

ND - its a lot more than just low peaked biceps that make yates' arms weak.

Its lack of seperation and shape:


seriously, they have really, really poor shape compared to Ronnie:


I would think that after 100+ pages you should be able to admit that there is one HELL of a difference between Dorian and Ronnie in terms of arms.

Personally, I think that dorian's delt shape has a lot to do with make his arms look mediocre. I mean, look at the difference I posted above.  Delts are the perfect complement to freaky arms.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2703 on: May 31, 2006, 02:47:59 PM »
ND, Ronnie does look great in that shot of course. But if you compare every OTHER pose (eg. front double bi, back double bi, lat spreads etc) Ronnie was far ahead in his 98/99 form as compared to his 1996 form. The fact that he filled out made him look totally different, and much better overall.

Hell, just watch those two videos (1997 vs 1999) again if you don't believe me.  Its right there on film.

Look no one is debating Ronnie wasn't a tad bigger and fuller from 1997 to 1999 , but its NOT as dramatic as you keep insisting , its not like Dorian from 92-93 !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2704 on: May 31, 2006, 02:50:23 PM »
ND as much as I admire your contributions.. you are fighting a losing battle. Coleman is so far ahead in every aspect of the game you can't even see Yates.

LOL - ND everyone is telling you the same thing:

Ronnie at his best is much better than Dorian at his best.

Listen to Alexxx - after all, he is Mr. Olympia 2076.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2705 on: May 31, 2006, 02:53:01 PM »
Perfect arms? WTF?

ND - its a lot more than just low peaked biceps that make yates' arms weak.

Its lack of seperation and shape:


seriously, they have really, really poor shape compared to Ronnie:


I would think that after 100+ pages you should be able to admit that there is one HELL of a difference between Dorian and Ronnie in terms of arms.

Personally, I think that dorian's delt shape has a lot to do with make his arms look mediocre. I mean, look at the difference I posted above.  Delts are the perfect complement to freaky arms.

Again your using a professional studio shot compared to a small scan from a magazine to prove your point? get serious , do yourself a huge favor watch the 1993 Mr Olympia and then you'll come to your senses , everyone who ever seen Yates live all said the same thing , pictures & video do not do this guy justice , watch the 1993 Olympia and see what a dense 257lbs looks like hard as steel and shredded !! those pictures cannot covey his dominence , they judges didn't even need to include him in the muscularity round , thats unheard of !! he Dominated everyone in 1993 for a damn a good reason !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2706 on: May 31, 2006, 02:58:13 PM »
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no one is debating Ronnie wasn't a tad bigger and fuller from 1997 to 1999

Just a TAD hahahah

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2707 on: May 31, 2006, 02:59:56 PM »
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no one is debating Ronnie wasn't a tad bigger and fuller from 1997 to 1999

Maybe only a smidgeon bigger.. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2708 on: May 31, 2006, 03:01:12 PM »
Again your using a professional studio shot compared to a small scan from a magazine to prove your point? get serious , do yourself a huge favor watch the 1993 Mr Olympia and then you'll come to your senses , everyone who ever seen Yates live all said the same thing , pictures & video do not do this guy justice , watch the 1993 Olympia and see what a dense 257lbs looks like hard as steel and shredded !! those pictures cannot covey his dominence , they judges didn't even need to include him in the muscularity round , thats unheard of !! he Dominated everyone in 1993 for a damn a good reason !!


stop trying to argue that the only reason that Ronnie blows dorian out of the water in the shots I posted is that it is a studio shot compared to a mag shot.

Here is some news:

ANY mag shot taken onstage from Ronnie will blow dorian away just as easily:


stop trying to make excuses for Ronnie's dominance over Yates and just admit it like everyone is trying to tell you to do.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2709 on: May 31, 2006, 03:02:12 PM »
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you're mistaking his lack of bicep peaks as weak arms , and thats just plain wrong


Actually it looks like Yates' ENTIRE upper arm is missing..hahahhahah

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2710 on: May 31, 2006, 03:02:29 PM »
Just a TAD hahahah

Get some new pics !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2711 on: May 31, 2006, 03:04:15 PM »
No. The evidence is already there.  :D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2712 on: May 31, 2006, 03:06:39 PM »

stop trying to argue that the only reason that Ronnie blows dorian out of the water in the shots I posted is that it is a studio shot compared to a mag shot.

Here is some news:

ANY mag shot taken onstage from Ronnie will blow dorian away just as easily:


stop trying to make excuses for Ronnie's dominance over Yates and just admit it like everyone is trying to tell you to do.



You like his most muscular better so he's blowing Yates out of the water? get real , he wouldn't be blowing a 257lb shredded to the bone Dorian out of a puddle , 1993 Yates is no pushover Hulkster , he owned among the best bodybuilders in the history of bodybuilding , I think you're starting to believe your Yates is overrated nonsense , you don't know the power of 93-Yates !!  >:(

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2713 on: May 31, 2006, 03:07:58 PM »
No. The evidence is already there.  :D

what evidence? he had a bad contest? I can post you 4 different Mr Olympia contests in which Ronnie looked like garbage , you have no point , you have no comebacks , you have no game !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2714 on: May 31, 2006, 03:08:31 PM »
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he wouldn't be blowing a 257lb shredded to the bone Dorian out of a puddle

Forget the data & numbers-still waiting for anything better than a ho-hum Yates MM facing dead-on to the camera..doesn't exist.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2715 on: May 31, 2006, 03:11:54 PM »
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he wouldn't be blowing a 257lb shredded to the bone Dorian out of a puddle , 1993 Yates is no pushover Hulkster ,

umm..yes he would be:



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2716 on: May 31, 2006, 03:13:29 PM »
Forget the data & numbers-still waiting for anything better than a ho-hum Yates MM facing dead-on to the camera..doesn't exist.

If you think a picture of a man 5'10" 269lbs hard as nails is ' ho-hum ' you're not a fan of bodybuilding !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2717 on: May 31, 2006, 03:14:37 PM »
this thread is still going  :o

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2718 on: May 31, 2006, 03:15:51 PM »
umm..yes he would be:


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Keep dreaming those pictures don't tell jack !! you stand Ronnie next to 1993 Mr Olympia at 257lbs , he would show Ronnie the meaning of the word desnity & dryness , you or Ronnie can't match that combo !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2719 on: May 31, 2006, 03:17:02 PM »


1993 Yates is not holding up well to 1999 Ronnie..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2720 on: May 31, 2006, 03:18:57 PM »
1993 Yates:



1999 Ronnie:

oops..Yates is STILL not holding up..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2721 on: May 31, 2006, 03:22:35 PM »
Hulkster 1993 Dorian was 257lbs hard as steel , 1999 Ronnie was 257lbs and not hard as steel , you can post all the pictures you want the mean zero , you're under this impression that Dorian is a pushover its laughable , Dorian owned the sport a LONG time before Ronnie even became anything , put any version of Ronnie against either 1993 or 1995 Mr Olympia Yates and Ronnie would look soft & doughy !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2722 on: May 31, 2006, 03:35:57 PM »
actually, I think Ronnie would make dorian look unstriated and smooth..






not the other way around..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2723 on: May 31, 2006, 03:42:37 PM »
actually, I think Ronnie would make dorian look unstriated and smooth..




not the other way around..

Obviously with that statement you didn't think at all !! you can post all the pictures you want they mean zero , one they don't prove anything , you need the atlethes to be side by side under the same lighting , and then you can accuratly compared the two , and believe me Ronnie was never 257lbs and as hard as Dorian , so withall things being equal a softer yet bigger Ronnie doesn't have anthing to offer 1993 Dorian , I'm sorry sport you'll have to do better than an extra 7lbs and a film of water coupled wth a gut !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #2724 on: May 31, 2006, 03:49:08 PM »
LOL ND is getting desperate again.

Now the pics and videos don't mean anything. LOL. ::)

And he forgets that Dorian had a gut at 257 pounds too!
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